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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:25 pm

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It’s being directed by idiots of course. But I think we ought to be vigilant. We dodged a bullet now, but the GOP has laid the groundwork to attempt this again in the future and they may have a more intelligent person then.


We will see about that. With how its hurting the GOP I have some doubt if they will play this game again.


I’m sure you feel that way but I still think Americans ought to be vigilant.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:26 pm

Jesus: Trump and Pence sue Biden and Harris (of course, they only picked the counties where Biden won in huge margins, hmmm)

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Postby -Ra- » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:26 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
-Ra- wrote:Although Donald Trump is widely hated by a broad swath of the population, I am at least thankful (and I think you should be too) that his tough on China rhetoric is going to become a mainstay of American politics. Communist China's rising political and economic influence poses an existential threat to democracy and individual liberty. The Chinese government and the businesses that operate for it are unscrupulous, thievish, and bent on achieving nothing short of world domination. Make no mistake, there is a cold war rising, and I'm glad that the Americans have finally awoken to this fact. People here in the UK really haven't.

Kissinger would be proud.

Yeah agreed the West shouldn’t act like the Cold War is over just because communism is eradicated in Europe, it still existing in other places backed by China, like in Nepal where there luckily are protests against the Maoists who rule the country

Socialism posing a threat to world peace... yet again!

Who knew?

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:27 pm



I’m sure that lawsuit will also be used as toilet paper, like the rest.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:27 pm

Kowani wrote:Jesus: Trump and Pence sue Biden and Harris (of course, they only picked the counties where Biden won in huge margins, hmmm)


Wait, why are they the respondents but all the actions are regarding a third party?
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:28 pm

-Ra- wrote:Although Donald Trump is widely hated by a broad swath of the population, I am at least thankful (and I think you should be too) that his tough on China rhetoric is going to become a mainstay of American politics. Communist China's rising political and economic influence poses an existential threat to democracy and individual liberty. The Chinese government and the businesses that operate for it are unscrupulous, thievish, and bent on achieving nothing short of world domination. Make no mistake, there is a cold war rising, and I'm glad that the Americans have finally awoken to this fact. People here in the UK really haven't.

Kissinger would be proud.


You mean the guy that played a big role in the administration that eased tensions with the PRC, normalized relations, and set the groundwork for the economic ties that have made China what it is today? That Kissinger?
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:28 pm

Kowani wrote:Jesus: Trump and Pence sue Biden and Harris (of course, they only picked the counties where Biden won in huge margins, hmmm)


Is that even the right person to sue? It is not like Biden and Harris control the anything about the election.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:29 pm

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:Jesus: Trump and Pence sue Biden and Harris (of course, they only picked the counties where Biden won in huge margins, hmmm)


Wait, why are they the respondents but all the actions are regarding a third party?

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Postby Kannap » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:29 pm

-Ra- wrote:Although Donald Trump is widely hated by a broad swath of the population, I am at least thankful (and I think you should be too) that his tough on China rhetoric is going to become a mainstay of American politics. Communist China's rising political and economic influence poses an existential threat to democracy and individual liberty. The Chinese government and the businesses that operate for it are unscrupulous, thievish, and bent on achieving nothing short of world domination. Make no mistake, there is a cold war rising, and I'm glad that the Americans have finally awoken to this fact. People here in the UK really haven't.

Kissinger would be proud.


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Postby Galloism » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:30 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Galloism wrote:Wait, why are they the respondents but all the actions are regarding a third party?

Damn, you ninja'd Batman.

Getting slow in your old age, Bruce.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:30 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:


I’m sure that lawsuit will also be used as toilet paper, like the rest.

oh, it will
but this is hilarious

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:Jesus: Trump and Pence sue Biden and Harris (of course, they only picked the counties where Biden won in huge margins, hmmm)


Wait, why are they the respondents but all the actions are regarding a third party?
Neutraligon wrote:
Kowani wrote:Jesus: Trump and Pence sue Biden and Harris (of course, they only picked the counties where Biden won in huge margins, hmmm)


Is that even the right person to sue? It is not like Biden and Harris control the anything about the election.

As Nana said:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:It’s being directed by idiots of course..
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:31 pm

Kowani wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I’m sure that lawsuit will also be used as toilet paper, like the rest.

oh, it will
but this is hilarious

Galloism wrote:Wait, why are they the respondents but all the actions are regarding a third party?
Neutraligon wrote:Is that even the right person to sue? It is not like Biden and Harris control the anything about the election.

As Nana said:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:It’s being directed by idiots of course..


It’s comedy, yes.
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Postby -Ra- » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:31 pm

Kannap wrote:
-Ra- wrote:Although Donald Trump is widely hated by a broad swath of the population, I am at least thankful (and I think you should be too) that his tough on China rhetoric is going to become a mainstay of American politics. Communist China's rising political and economic influence poses an existential threat to democracy and individual liberty. The Chinese government and the businesses that operate for it are unscrupulous, thievish, and bent on achieving nothing short of world domination. Make no mistake, there is a cold war rising, and I'm glad that the Americans have finally awoken to this fact. People here in the UK really haven't.

Kissinger would be proud.


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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:33 pm

-Ra- wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Yeah agreed the West shouldn’t act like the Cold War is over just because communism is eradicated in Europe, it still existing in other places backed by China, like in Nepal where there luckily are protests against the Maoists who rule the country

Socialism posing a threat to world peace... yet again!

Who knew?

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Postby Esalia » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:34 pm

-Ra- wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Yeah agreed the West shouldn’t act like the Cold War is over just because communism is eradicated in Europe, it still existing in other places backed by China, like in Nepal where there luckily are protests against the Maoists who rule the country

Socialism posing a threat to world peace... yet again!

Who knew?


The hyper-capitalist PRC, a bastion of socialism indeed.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:35 pm

Esalia wrote:
-Ra- wrote:Socialism posing a threat to world peace... yet again!

Who knew?


The hyper-capitalist PRC, a bastion of socialism indeed.

the more billionaires you have, the more socialister it is
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Postby Esalia » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:35 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
-Ra- wrote:Socialism posing a threat to world peace... yet again!

Who knew?

The biggest mistake the West made was to stop the containment of communism, socialism, and other far leftist ideologies after the collapse of the USSR


Well of course it wasn't going to contain China's "Communism", it made a fuckton of money for them to use China's large labour pool and comparatively lax standards.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:36 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
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Based on what factors beyond Trump insisting there must have been fraud because there's no way he could've lost legitimately?

Apparently you and Lumen need a quick class in reading because Ran never once said that Biden fraudulently won.


So do you, because I never said they did. I asked them what factors they believed make people think the election was fraudulent.
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Postby Odreria » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:36 pm

Esalia wrote:
-Ra- wrote:Socialism posing a threat to world peace... yet again!

Who knew?


The hyper-capitalist PRC, a bastion of socialism indeed.

imagine thinking the PRC isn't still on the road to socialism
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Postby -Ra- » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:37 pm

Esalia wrote:
-Ra- wrote:Socialism posing a threat to world peace... yet again!

Who knew?


The hyper-capitalist PRC, a bastion of socialism indeed.

nOt ReAl CoMmUnIsM!!

All things considered, China abandoned Communism once Mao croaked (and then it saw one of the largest economic booms in world history -- thanks capitalism!). My fight isn't really socialism v. capitalism (though China still maintains many socialistic characteristics), it's more liberalism vs. authoritarianism. In the end, that's what it's all about anyway, since socialism is just authoritarianism with red paint.

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Postby Esalia » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:39 pm

Odreria wrote:
Esalia wrote:
The hyper-capitalist PRC, a bastion of socialism indeed.

imagine thinking the PRC isn't still on the road to socialism


If it is still on the road to socialism, all it is doing is reversing.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:43 pm

Kowani wrote:
-Ra- wrote:Although Donald Trump is widely hated by a broad swath of the population, I am at least thankful (and I think you should be too) that his tough on China rhetoric is going to become a mainstay of American politics. Communist China's rising political and economic influence poses an existential threat to democracy and individual liberty. The Chinese government and the businesses that operate for it are unscrupulous, thievish, and bent on achieving nothing short of world domination. Make no mistake, there is a cold war rising, and I'm glad that the Americans have finally awoken to this fact. People here in the UK really haven't.

Kissinger would be proud.

Trump is very fond of anti-china rhetoric
He is not, however, good at anti-china policy.

Hes also not good at anti-China rhetoric either given that hes held up the Uighur genocide as an example of something the US should emulate with the border camps.
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Postby -Ra- » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:44 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Kowani wrote:Trump is very fond of anti-china rhetoric
He is not, however, good at anti-china policy.

Hes also not good at anti-China rhetoric either given that hes held up the Uighur genocide as an example of something the US should emulate with the border camps.

[citation needed]

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:45 pm

-Ra- wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Hes also not good at anti-China rhetoric either given that hes held up the Uighur genocide as an example of something the US should emulate with the border camps.

[citation needed]


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Postby Kowani » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:47 pm

-Ra- wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Hes also not good at anti-China rhetoric either given that hes held up the Uighur genocide as an example of something the US should emulate with the border camps.

[citation needed]

Citation found
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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