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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:41 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
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Are you just willfully blind to the violent Trump supporters? How come when someone on the left is violent it's magically indicative of the entire movement but when a Trumper is violent it's an isolated incident not worth mentioning?


Partisan hypocrisy at it's finest.

What I don't understand is why an Icelandic dude cares so much about our elections.

Hasn't he said he's not Icelandic somewhere?

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Postby Esalia » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:45 am

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Partisan hypocrisy at it's finest.

What I don't understand is why an Icelandic dude cares so much about our elections.

Hasn't he said he's not Icelandic somewhere?


They might have.

But I think the mods have said that KK and an Icelandic user (whose nation I'm forgetting) are the same person, hence a lot of the posts connecting KK to Iceland.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:46 am


What's the ethnic makeup of the existing picks?

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Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:52 am

Esalia wrote:
Eukaryotic Cells wrote:Hasn't he said he's not Icelandic somewhere?


They might have.

But I think the mods have said that KK and an Icelandic user (whose nation I'm forgetting) are the same person, hence a lot of the posts connecting KK to Iceland.


Just to avoid this descending into further needless speculation, it's a matter of public record that Aureumterra and Kexholm Karelia are the same user.

However, the sigs of both accounts proclaim their political conservatism, so neither account is pretending to be something that other account isn't. No rules are therefore being broken by the use of different accounts. Had deletions for posting past ban not taken place, this wouldn't have come up.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:53 am

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What's the ethnic makeup of the existing picks?

White with Hispanic. The guy has only made four picks
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Postby Sundiata » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:54 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Eukaryotic Cells wrote:What's the ethnic makeup of the existing picks?

White with Hispanic. The guy has only made four picks

Biden is slacking.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:55 am

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/06/protesters-jocelyn-bensons-home-after-dark-oppose-certification/3850654001/

Dozens of protesters surrounded the home of Michigan’s Secretary of State demeaning an audit of the election and claiming it was stolen. I very much fear one of Trumps supporters is going to injure or kill someone.

Don’t worry. We aren’t antifa

That's why people should worry.

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Postby Genivaria » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:58 am

Ifreann wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Don’t worry. We aren’t antifa

That's why people should worry.

I don't know how someone can look at far right political intimidation and only respond "Well at least they ain't lefties lol" and expect to be taken seriously.

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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:07 am

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Ifreann wrote:That's why people should worry.

I don't know how someone can look at far right political intimidation and only respond "Well at least they ain't lefties lol" and expect to be taken seriously.


Sure, but I do find it problematic when people support antifa and nobody bats an eye.
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Postby Odreria » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:34 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I don't know how someone can look at far right political intimidation and only respond "Well at least they ain't lefties lol" and expect to be taken seriously.


Sure, but I do find it problematic when people support antifa and nobody bats an eye.

When does nobody bat an eye at antifa? Most republicans rend the air screeching about it at all hours.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:37 am

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Don’t start that nonsense. Trump supporters have been sending death threats.

And antifa has actually been killing Trump supporters, like the man in Portland and the two men in Minneapolis

Well, no. You tried. You’re just bad at it.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:47 am

Just read that with Rudy sick and because of the latest suits being thrown out, that we may see an end to Trump’s idiotic legal efforts very soon.

Was safe harbor date moved to tomorrow?
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:51 am

Odreria wrote:
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Sure, but I do find it problematic when people support antifa and nobody bats an eye.

When does nobody bat an eye at antifa? Most republicans rend the air screeching about it at all hours.


Democrats, the 4th estate and most left wing social media outlets go to considerable lengths to downplay the threat that is antifa. Whenever somebody dies because of their actions it's not their fault its the fault of "infiltrators." How convenient.

And when that fails they shift to "what about the right" as if that somehow makes antifa not a problem.
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Postby No State Here » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:58 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Odreria wrote:When does nobody bat an eye at antifa? Most republicans rend the air screeching about it at all hours.


Democrats, the 4th estate and most left wing social media outlets go to considerable lengths to downplay the threat that is antifa. Whenever somebody dies because of their actions it's not their fault its the fault of "infiltrators." How convenient.

And when that fails they shift to "what about the right" as if that somehow makes antifa not a problem.

I talked about this a while ago
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The Reformed American Republic wrote:Those are the criminals known as "antifa," not the Democratic party. They're not the same thing.

Antifa groups are basically just small white boys LARPing as street gangs, actually you can say the same for Proud Boys as well. Huh, guess they have more in common than I thought
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:02 am

No State Here wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Democrats, the 4th estate and most left wing social media outlets go to considerable lengths to downplay the threat that is antifa. Whenever somebody dies because of their actions it's not their fault its the fault of "infiltrators." How convenient.

And when that fails they shift to "what about the right" as if that somehow makes antifa not a problem.

I talked about this a while ago
No State Here wrote:Antifa groups are basically just small white boys LARPing as street gangs, actually you can say the same for Proud Boys as well. Huh, guess they have more in common than I thought


I find that my sympathy for any side goes away the minute you have groups attempting to kidnap elected officials or gather outside their homes to terrorize them and their families. And between people who are antifascist and the right, the right is the one employing those tactics.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:02 am

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Postby Betoni » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:03 am

Galloism wrote:
Galloism wrote:Yes, and done.

Galloism wrote:1a) https://reason.com/2020/11/11/joe-biden ... education/

1b) original institution of the dear colleague letter: https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/ ... schools-ad

2) we checked school policies after the dear colleague letter. The results were dismal. https://www.thefire.org/resources/spotl ... port-2017/

3) here is the statement by Janet Halley, professor of law at Harvard, noting students of color, and those with disabilities, were disproportionately impacted by the paradigm. This was given to congress. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzdI8i ... xVkVz/view


Absolute fucking crickets.


Biden bad.

That title IX stuff is hilariously stupid. 3) though doesn't really amount to anything when it's just some personal experience she is noting. One would hope that for those kind of claims they'd have some actual data to back it up. I'm sure it's not far from the truth, but your source does not claim that statistically students of colour, or those with disabilities, were disproportionately impacted.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:03 am



After a third recount. With Biden still carrying the state.
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Postby Odreria » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:30 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Odreria wrote:When does nobody bat an eye at antifa? Most republicans rend the air screeching about it at all hours.


Democrats, the 4th estate and most left wing social media outlets go to considerable lengths to downplay the threat that is antifa. Whenever somebody dies because of their actions it's not their fault its the fault of "infiltrators." How convenient.

And when that fails they shift to "what about the right" as if that somehow makes antifa not a problem.

ok guess we will have to nationalize all major media and industry. it's the only way to stop antifa
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:32 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:


After a third recount. With Biden still carrying the state.


So much winning. When will Trump and his lawyers accept they lost?
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:33 am


We had a recount. After a recount the state is required to recertify
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Postby Shrillland » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:34 am

San Lumen wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
After a third recount. With Biden still carrying the state.


So much winning. When will Trump and his lawyers accept they lost?


He is genuinely mentally incapable of doing so. My father was a malignant narcissist, and this fits the bill of what he was like perfectly.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:34 am

Thermodolia wrote:

We had a recount. After a recount the state is required to recertify

https://apnews.com/article/election-202 ... b6c26b680a

It will happen later today.

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