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Postby The Hindustani State » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:25 am

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The Hindustani State wrote:So he’s angry over election loss and trying to change the results? Why have so many anti china activist groups here in India organized the "stop the steal" protest?

Yeah. He's also raising a lot of money to carry out these lawsuits. Something like half of that money is being used to pay down his campaign's debts. So there's some financial motives at play here as well, in my view.

I don't know why there are stop the steal protests popping up in India. They also happened in Tokyo, apparently. Maybe there is some astroturfing going on? Trump is seen as being strongly anti-China in comparison to Biden, that might be a factor as well.

Oh, Biden is also very anti China too right?
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:31 am

The Hindustani State wrote:
Eukaryotic Cells wrote:Yeah. He's also raising a lot of money to carry out these lawsuits. Something like half of that money is being used to pay down his campaign's debts. So there's some financial motives at play here as well, in my view.

I don't know why there are stop the steal protests popping up in India. They also happened in Tokyo, apparently. Maybe there is some astroturfing going on? Trump is seen as being strongly anti-China in comparison to Biden, that might be a factor as well.

Oh, Biden is also very anti China too right?

As much as one would expect of any normal US President.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:35 am

The Hindustani State wrote:
Eukaryotic Cells wrote:Yeah. He's also raising a lot of money to carry out these lawsuits. Something like half of that money is being used to pay down his campaign's debts. So there's some financial motives at play here as well, in my view.

I don't know why there are stop the steal protests popping up in India. They also happened in Tokyo, apparently. Maybe there is some astroturfing going on? Trump is seen as being strongly anti-China in comparison to Biden, that might be a factor as well.

Oh, Biden is also very anti China too right?

There is some debate about it, but I believe so.

Pretty much the entire American political elite is anti-China. They're seen as the main rival to the US at the moment. US public opinion towards China has also sharply deteriorated in the wake of the trade war and COVID-19 crisis.

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Eukaryotic Cells wrote:Yeah. He's also raising a lot of money to carry out these lawsuits. Something like half of that money is being used to pay down his campaign's debts. So there's some financial motives at play here as well, in my view.

I don't know why there are stop the steal protests popping up in India. They also happened in Tokyo, apparently. Maybe there is some astroturfing going on? Trump is seen as being strongly anti-China in comparison to Biden, that might be a factor as well.

Oh, Biden is also very anti China too right?


"Also" implies that Trump is anti-China. He is not.

Trump is in debt to China, he does business with China regularly, he applauded their response to COVID by supporting CCP misinformation on their cases, he praised their response to the Hong Kong protests and their ongoing genocide of the Uyghurs, he withdrew the U.S. from several international agreements that kept Chinese influence in check, he openly admits that he admires Xi and his methods, and his trade war has hurt America more than China.

His "anti-China" rhetoric is nothing but hot air.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:36 am

Here's to hope that a Biden administration would be going to be tough on PRC.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:56 am

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politi ... story.html

Trump is calling on Georgia's governor to cancel the Senate runoffs. Given that they are required by Georgia law I don't see how Kemp has any authority to do that.

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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:59 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-trump-georgia-election-senate-run-off-20201201-ueqwqvimvffvjicy6ssgqxj3py-story.html

Trump is calling on Georgia's governor to cancel the Senate runoffs. Given that they are required by Georgia law I don't see how Kemp has any authority to do that.

It seems that Trump's "theory" is that if there was no fraud, the Republicans would have cleared the 50% vote share needed to avoid runoffs.

This guy is absolutely revolting.

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Postby Odreria » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:00 am

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:Oh, Biden is also very anti China too right?

There is some debate about it, but I believe so.

Pretty much the entire American political elite is anti-China. They're seen as the main rival to the US at the moment. US public opinion towards China has also sharply deteriorated in the wake of the trade war and COVID-19 crisis.

Even though there’s an increasing amount of evidence that the virus didn’t start in China at all. Probably an Israeli false flag or something.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:00 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Trump campaign now just makeing shit up.


Don't you know its all part of how Democrats cheat by making counties disappear?

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Postby Kowani » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:22 am

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San Lumen wrote:https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-trump-georgia-election-senate-run-off-20201201-ueqwqvimvffvjicy6ssgqxj3py-story.html

Trump is calling on Georgia's governor to cancel the Senate runoffs. Given that they are required by Georgia law I don't see how Kemp has any authority to do that.

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Postby Gravlen » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:47 am

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Vote for David Perdue. He's not a criminal. Seriously, they couldn't make the charges stick.

So vote for the guy who's not going away for crimes, because they can't prove he broke the law.

David Perdue for US Senate. Not for prison.




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Is that the best selling point? :unsure:
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Postby Esalia » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:48 am

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Vote for David Perdue. He's not a criminal. Seriously, they couldn't make the charges stick.

So vote for the guy who's not going away for crimes, because they can't [i]prove
he broke the law.

David Perdue for US Senate. Not for prison.
[/i]



...

Is that the best selling point? :unsure:


Who did they pay to come up with this?

They might need to ask for a refund.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:52 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Trump campaign now just makeing shit up.


Thats what they've been doing for years. Donald Trump in 2016 claimed Arab Americans in New Jersey were crowding the streets cheering as the twin towers came down and there was less evidence for that claim than there was about the existence of Bigfoot. Literally less evidence. Trump has a history of "alternative facts" which must be from an alternative universe.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:53 am

Gravlen wrote:(Image)
Vote for David Perdue. He's not a criminal. Seriously, they couldn't make the charges stick.

So vote for the guy who's not going away for crimes, because they can't [i]prove
he broke the law.

David Perdue for US Senate. Not for prison.
[/i]



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Is that the best selling point? :unsure:

That ad almost comes off like some kind of parody. It beggars belief.

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Postby Gravlen » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:00 am

Galloism wrote:And now the trump campaign lawyers are calling for violence against others - that they should be shot.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... krebs-shot

We've lost our damn minds.

Hope they throw the book at that asshole diGenova.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:10 am


Same shit, different day. I don't know why that entire petition is fully justified; it looks awful in a few places.

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:14 am

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:

Same shit, different day. I don't know why that entire petition is fully justified; it looks awful in a few places.

It says that recounts have been performed in Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, and Nevada and the outcome of the election hangs in the balance. No, it doesn't. In the Georgia recount, Biden picked up 87 or so votes. Sheesh.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:19 am

Gravlen wrote:(Image)
Vote for David Perdue. He's not a criminal. Seriously, they couldn't make the charges stick.

So vote for the guy who's not going away for crimes, because they can't prove he broke the law.

David Perdue for US Senate. Not for prison.




...

Is that the best selling point? :unsure:


He signed off on this?

Next he should make an ad describing how being responsible for the biggest single-day layoff in NC history was "not totally his fault."
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Postby Telconi » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:26 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Gravlen wrote:(Image)
Vote for David Perdue. He's not a criminal. Seriously, they couldn't make the charges stick.

So vote for the guy who's not going away for crimes, because they can't prove he broke the law.

David Perdue for US Senate. Not for prison.




...

Is that the best selling point? :unsure:


He signed off on this?

Next he should make an ad describing how being responsible for the biggest single-day layoff in NC history was "not totally his fault."


It's all voter motivation. Him not being criminally convicted would increase turnout amongst people concerned with voting for a criminal.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:28 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Gravlen wrote:(Image)
Vote for David Perdue. He's not a criminal. Seriously, they couldn't make the charges stick.

So vote for the guy who's not going away for crimes, because they can't prove he broke the law.

David Perdue for US Senate. Not for prison.




...

Is that the best selling point? :unsure:


He signed off on this?

Next he should make an ad describing how being responsible for the biggest single-day layoff in NC history was "not totally his fault."

Wiki sayeth, "Critics noted that he had contributed to a total of thousands of jobs lost following the final closure of Pillowtex, while Perdue left the company after nine months with a nearly $2 million buyout.[5][32] After being elected, he said he wanted to bring the perspective of 'a working person' to Washington, D.C." I totally believe that.
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Telconi wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
He signed off on this?

Next he should make an ad describing how being responsible for the biggest single-day layoff in NC history was "not totally his fault."


It's all voter motivation. Him not being criminally convicted would increase turnout amongst people concerned with voting for a criminal.


Not when you phrase it like that. Even if he truly never committed any crime and was clean as a whistle, producing an ad that says "exonerated" really leads a voter to think "wait, why did he have to be exonerated in the first place the fuck?"

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Postby Telconi » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:05 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Telconi wrote:
It's all voter motivation. Him not being criminally convicted would increase turnout amongst people concerned with voting for a criminal.


Not when you phrase it like that. Even if he truly never committed any crime and was clean as a whistle, producing an ad that says "exonerated" really leads a voter to think "wait, why did he have to be exonerated in the first place the fuck?"


Because he got accused of wrongdoing. That's what exoneration means, yes?
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