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Postby Kowani » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:44 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Kowani wrote:I expect it to get better when he's not in office


His madness? I’m actually expecting him to go completely senile in the following two-three years.

well, he won't be under the stress of a presidency, nor will he be actively contesting the election

if the debts catch up to him or he goes to prison, though...
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:45 pm

Kowani wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
His madness? I’m actually expecting him to go completely senile in the following two-three years.

well, he won't be under the stress of a presidency, nor will he be actively contesting the election

if the debts catch up to him or he goes to prison, though...


I hope both happen. 200,000+ Americans lost because he did nothing about the pandemic, demands reckoning.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:48 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Kowani wrote:well, he won't be under the stress of a presidency, nor will he be actively contesting the election

if the debts catch up to him or he goes to prison, though...


I hope both happen. 200,000+ Americans lost because he did nothing about the pandemic, demands reckoning.

well, yes
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Postby Esalia » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:48 pm

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The common sense solution is to accept the results of a free and fair election, but I guess some people just can't accept that they can lose freely and fairly.


Why is surrender common sense?


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Postby Esalia » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:52 pm



I hope in four years the only way I can see Trump is by visiting him in prison.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:53 pm


Why would he want to run in a fraudulent election?
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Postby Kowani » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:57 pm

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Why would he want to run in a fraudulent election?

"I'm so great, I beat the fraud"
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:15 pm

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ion-source

New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham turned down Interior post, says transition source

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Postby Andsed » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:18 pm

Kowani wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Shit. Do I have to wear my “same tango” outfit again?

Yes: Trump just posted a 45-minute video on Facebook that he recorded inside the White House where he vows to continue fighting the election results and says his legal team will file more lawsuits. It included charts.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:41 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/528456-lujan-grisham-turned-down-interior-post-says-transition-source

New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham turned down Interior post, says transition source

Interestingly I had her as head of HHS. For interior I have Rep Raúl Grijalva of AZ
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:43 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/528456-lujan-grisham-turned-down-interior-post-says-transition-source

New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham turned down Interior post, says transition source

Interestingly I had her as head of HHS. For interior I have Rep Raúl Grijalva of AZ


I thought she'd have been a frontrunner. I''ve heard outgoing congresswoman Abby Finkenauer of Iowa mentioned.
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:48 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/528456-lujan-grisham-turned-down-interior-post-says-transition-source

New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham turned down Interior post, says transition source

Interestingly I had her as head of HHS. For interior I have Rep Raúl Grijalva of AZ


It'll be Haaland or Udall, I suspect. Haven't heard much about Grijalva being considered.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:49 pm

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:50 pm


I doubt they overrule the lower courts decision.

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:50 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Every time I read an Al Jazeera election headline, I keep imagining someone grinning from ear to ear as they deliver gut punches to Trump’s ego. That, or I’m projecting. :D

A ‘coup’ was not in the cards for Trump, after all

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:51 pm

San Lumen wrote:

I doubt they overrule the lower courts decision.


Many say it’ll be dead on arrival but that they still do it is what’s baffling.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:52 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I doubt they overrule the lower courts decision.


Many say it’ll be dead on arrival but that they still do it is what’s baffling.


It very likely is. Roberts and Gorsch arent going to touch this with a ten foot poll.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:53 pm

—Whatever—
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Many say it’ll be dead on arrival but that they still do it is what’s baffling.


It very likely is. Roberts and Gorsch arent going to touch this with a ten foot poll.


They submitted it to Alito, which apparently oversees PA courts.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:02 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
It very likely is. Roberts and Gorsch arent going to touch this with a ten foot poll.


They submitted it to Alito, which apparently oversees PA courts.


Ah. I doubt he rules in their favor. Hes an originalist and very much about precedent.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:03 pm

Biden holds virtual roundtable with workers and small business owners impacted by pandemic

President-elect Joe Biden on Wednesday afternoon held a virtual roundtable with workers and small business owners who have been affected by the economic crisis brought on by the coronavirus pandemic.

“I know times are both tough, but I believe that with the right policies we can fundamentally change things,” Biden said during the event. “And my hope is that we'll be able to help in a short order, but that depends a lot on our friends in Congress, the other side, who are prepared to take the action has to be taken.”

Biden heard from Lorie Alexander, a school crossing guard in Chicago; Karen Coffey, a server in Michigan; Dan Jacobs, an owner in the hospitality business in Wisconsin; and Jessica Gavin, a stagehand in Georgia. All spoke about the challenges and uncertainty they have faced in the pandemic.

“I'm going to be completely blunt with you,” Biden said after hearing from some of the participants. “My ability to get you help immediately does not exist. I'm not even in an office for another 50 days. And then I have to get legislation passed through the United States Congress to get things done.”
But, he said, his transition team has already been working on what he will put forward in the next Congress to address the economic crisis and the response to the coronavirus pandemic. He also spoke about readying plans to distribute a vaccine across the nation once one becomes available.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:12 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
“I know times are both tough, but I believe that with the right policies we can fundamentally change things,” Biden said during the event.

So we're now expected to take on faith that Mr. "Nothing Will Fundamentally Change" has magically come around? Or does he think rightist austerity and political paralysis represent fundamental changes from the present? This quote is just insane, given his previous statements in literally diametric opposition.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:17 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
“I know times are both tough, but I believe that with the right policies we can fundamentally change things,” Biden said during the event.

So we're now expected to take on faith that Mr. "Nothing Will Fundamentally Change" has magically come around? Or does he think rightist austerity and political paralysis represent fundamental changes from the present? This quote is just insane, given his previous statements in literally diametric opposition.


He doesnt have a magic wand to wave and change things overnight.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:23 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
“I know times are both tough, but I believe that with the right policies we can fundamentally change things,” Biden said during the event.

So we're now expected to take on faith that Mr. "Nothing Will Fundamentally Change" has magically come around? Or does he think rightist austerity and political paralysis represent fundamental changes from the present? This quote is just insane, given his previous statements in literally diametric opposition.


I don’t know. But it’s true to say he can’t help them right now. He can’t. He’s merely president-elect right now. And it’s true that to pass anything, if Congress remains on a Republican majority, will be hard or nigh impossible on some issues.

That being said, the first thing his administration needs to do is push for help for these people.
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Postby Ngelmish » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:26 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
“I know times are both tough, but I believe that with the right policies we can fundamentally change things,” Biden said during the event.

So we're now expected to take on faith that Mr. "Nothing Will Fundamentally Change" has magically come around? Or does he think rightist austerity and political paralysis represent fundamental changes from the present? This quote is just insane, given his previous statements in literally diametric opposition.


That strikes me as reaching for the most hostile possible reading of the comment, particularly in light of the fact that his economic nominees so far aren't that bad.

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