2020 US General Election Thread XIII: Nocturne

[San Lumen]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/21/politics ... index.html

A federal judge dismissed a Trump campaign lawsuit tonight in PA. The judges opinion is epic.

"In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more," the judge wrote. "At bottom, Plaintiffs have failed to meet their burden to state a claim upon which relief may be granted."

Case was dismissed with prejudice.

[Farnhamia]

The lords of Twitter have declared fealty to House Biden:

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/ ... 201121.htm

Twitter Inc will transfer control of the @POTUS account to the Joe Biden administration on January 20, the company said.

The @POTUS account is the official account of the President of the United States and is separate from the @realDonaldTrump account that President Donald Trump uses to tweet.

"Twitter is actively preparing to support the transition of White House institutional Twitter accounts on January 20th, 2021. As we did for the presidential transition in 2017, this process is being done in close consultation with the National Archives and Records," the company confirmed to Reuters on Saturday.

Twitter will also hand over other White House institutional accounts, like @FLOTUS, @VP, and @whitehouse, on inauguration day.

The development was reported earlier by Politico which added that the handover of the @POTUS handle requires no sharing of information between the outgoing Trump team and incoming Biden team.

It also reported that Twitter will meet transition officials of Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris in the coming months to discuss the particulars of how the new administration will use Twitter.

Biden, who has reached the two-week mark since becoming president-elect, is preparing to take office on Jan. 20, but Trump has refused to concede and is seeking to invalidate or overturn the results through lawsuits and recounts in a number of states, claiming - without proof - widespread voter fraud. (Reuters)

I’m not sure how much this affects the balance of powers...

Those are accounts belonging to the office of the president, the office of the vice-president, etc. Nothing to do with any "balance of power."

[Farnhamia]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/21/politics/federal-judge-dismisses-trump-pennsylvania-lawsuit/index.html

A federal judge dismissed a Trump campaign lawsuit tonight in PA. The judges opinion is epic.

"In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more," the judge wrote. "At bottom, Plaintiffs have failed to meet their burden to state a claim upon which relief may be granted."

Case was dismissed with prejudice.

You're late.

[The Giant Space Wyrm]

You can't call yourself a patriot if you support someone whose actions kill a quarter million of your countrymen.

Now I know for sure whose side your are on, not that I did not actually know it.

To all of you Guess what? We don't care, what anyone says or thinks about us. They don't get to decide for us, what we are, we get to decide for us what we are.

We are all Proud Pro Trump Republicans, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens. There is nothing wrong with it. GMS.

This is a Fact. Many of you don't seem to understand it or don't want to understand it. What matters is we understand it. GMS.

Actually, this is inaccurate.

You don't get to decide what you are. What you think of yourselves won't matter once you are gone. What future generations will think of you when you are gone will decide what you are and what generations that come after those learn about you from previous generations will eventually make your opinion superfluous to what was and was not true.

So far future generations will think you delusional because you cannot see past what you believe to be true, and what is true. You maintain that all other facts are untrue because the facts agree with what others believe but will fully believe in facts that agree with your own stance.

You have functionally not provided anything to this discussion except for sources that fall under your own criteria of being from people like you and who agree with you. Refusing to back up your claims with evidence from sources with some level of credibility.

Then smugly "laugh out loud" like you've achieved some small victory.

[Kowani]

Okay, my internet is finally working again.

I see the legal “Elite Force” has failed again.

[Farnhamia]

Okay, my internet is finally working again.

I see the legal “Elite Force” has failed again.

The New York Times called the judge's ruling "scathing."

[Ifreann]

Some of the people going into Trump supporter groups and saying that they should boycott elections are, in fact, engaged in a complex and elaborate plot where they say things they don't really believe.

Im not sure I believe that.

Tricking Trump supporters into losing by using Trump's own lies to convince them to stay at home is very funny, why is it so hard to believe that someone would do that?

[Kowani]

Okay, my internet is finally working again.

I see the legal “Elite Force” has failed again.

The New York Times called the judge's ruling "scathing."

I read parts of it.
For a judge, it was.

[Neutraligon]

https://twitter.com/jonswaine/status/1330218714575278082?s=20

a group led by Republican congressman Mike Kelly has sued Pennsylvania in a state court, seeking to block certification of the election results on the grounds that the Oct. 2019 state law creating universal vote-by-mail was unconstitutional.

I wonder if they will go anywhere. Chances are it doesnt.

Oregon will be surprised to hear that.

[Farnhamia]

The New York Times called the judge's ruling "scathing."

I read parts of it.
For a judge, it was.

I haven't been to a good scathing in years. In the old days ... well, things are different now, I suppose.

What's that? Yes, I would like another drink, thank you.

[Bombadil]

Now I know for sure whose side your are on, not that I did not actually know it.

To all of you Guess what? We don't care, what anyone says or thinks about us. They don't get to decide for us, what we are, we get to decide for us what we are.

We are all Proud Pro Trump Republicans, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens. There is nothing wrong with it. GMS.

This is a Fact. Many of you don't seem to understand it or don't want to understand it. What matters is we understand it. GMS.

Actually, this is inaccurate.

You don't get to decide what you are. What you think of yourselves won't matter once you are gone. What future generations will think of you when you are gone will decide what you are and what generations that come after those learn about you from previous generations will eventually make your opinion superfluous to what was and was not true.

So far future generations will think you delusional because you cannot see past what you believe to be true, and what is true. You maintain that all other facts are untrue because the facts agree with what others believe but will fully believe in facts that agree with your own stance.

You have functionally not provided anything to this discussion except for sources that fall under your own criteria of being from people like you and who agree with you. Refusing to back up your claims with evidence from sources with some level of credibility.

Then smugly "laugh out loud" like you've achieved some small victory.

It's weird how the support mirrors the supported. Change 'discussion' to 'nation' and you could be talking directly to Trump.

[Galloism]

https://twitter.com/jonswaine/status/1330218714575278082?s=20

a group led by Republican congressman Mike Kelly has sued Pennsylvania in a state court, seeking to block certification of the election results on the grounds that the Oct. 2019 state law creating universal vote-by-mail was unconstitutional.

I wonder if they will go anywhere. Chances are it doesnt.

Oregon will be surprised to hear that.

Pennsylvania constitution, not federal.

It’s arguably unconstitutional, but I don’t think the court will toss a couple million votes cast in good faith.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Now I know for sure whose side your are on, not that I did not actually know it.

To all of you Guess what? We don't care, what anyone says or thinks about us. They don't get to decide for us, what we are, we get to decide for us what we are.

We are all Proud Pro Trump Republicans, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens. There is nothing wrong with it. GMS.

This is a Fact. Many of you don't seem to understand it or don't want to understand it. What matters is we understand it. GMS.

Actually, this is inaccurate.

You don't get to decide what you are. What you think of yourselves won't matter once you are gone. What future generations will think of you when you are gone will decide what you are and what generations that come after those learn about you from previous generations will eventually make your opinion superfluous to what was and was not true.

So far future generations will think you delusional because you cannot see past what you believe to be true, and what is true. You maintain that all other facts are untrue because the facts agree with what others believe but will fully believe in facts that agree with your own stance.

You have functionally not provided anything to this discussion except for sources that fall under your own criteria of being from people like you and who agree with you. Refusing to back up your claims with evidence from sources with some level of credibility.

Then smugly "laugh out loud" like you've achieved some small victory.

To all of you it might concern. very bad try, Wrong, I don't get to decide for you or anyone on NS and off NS what you are. You would all be very offended and insulted. You would all strongly disagree, these are Facts. Nobody gets to decide for anyone on NS and off NS what we are. No one on NS or off NS gets to decide what I am. No one on NS and off NS gets to decide what my family and I and Friends, the Euro Americans in the family and the dogs and the cats in the family are. We get to decide what we are.

I have a similar post on my new sig.

At the Family dinner Party I recently attended and posted about, we all strongly agree with each other. I tried once again, to get them to join me on NS and they refused. They would tell all of you the same thing if they were here on NS, and I am not lying.

We are all Proud Trump Republican supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA American Patriot citizens, I am not lying, these are Facts as many on NS love to say. GMS.

[The Giant Space Wyrm]

Actually, this is inaccurate.

You don't get to decide what you are. What you think of yourselves won't matter once you are gone. What future generations will think of you when you are gone will decide what you are and what generations that come after those learn about you from previous generations will eventually make your opinion superfluous to what was and was not true.

So far future generations will think you delusional because you cannot see past what you believe to be true, and what is true. You maintain that all other facts are untrue because the facts agree with what others believe but will fully believe in facts that agree with your own stance.

You have functionally not provided anything to this discussion except for sources that fall under your own criteria of being from people like you and who agree with you. Refusing to back up your claims with evidence from sources with some level of credibility.

Then smugly "laugh out loud" like you've achieved some small victory.

To all of you it might concern. very bad try, Wrong, I don't get to decide for you or anyone on NS and off NS what you are. You would all be very offended and insulted. You would all strongly disagree, these are Facts. Nobody gets to decide for anyone on NS and off NS what we are. No one on NS or off NS gets to decide what I am. No one on NS and off NS gets to decide what my family and I and Friends, the Euro Americans in the family and the dogs and the cats in the family are. We get to decide what we are.

I have a similar post on my new sig.

At the Family dinner Party I recently attended and posted about, we all strongly agree with each other. I tried once again, to get them to join me on NS and they refused. They would tell all of you the same thing if they were here on NS, and I am not lying.

We are all Proud Trump Republican supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA American Patriot citizens, I am not lying, these are Facts as many on NS love to say. GMS.

Just because a majority agree on something does not mean it is right. If you wish to remain in an echo chamber you may remain so. It does not make you any less wrong.

[Greater Miami Shores]

To all of you it might concern. very bad try, Wrong, I don't get to decide for you or anyone on NS and off NS what you are. You would all be very offended and insulted. You would all strongly disagree, these are Facts. Nobody gets to decide for anyone on NS and off NS what we are. No one on NS or off NS gets to decide what I am. No one on NS and off NS gets to decide what my family and I and Friends, the Euro Americans in the family and the dogs and the cats in the family are. We get to decide what we are.

I have a similar post on my new sig.

At the Family dinner Party I recently attended and posted about, we all strongly agree with each other. I tried once again, to get them to join me on NS and they refused. They would tell all of you the same thing if they were here on NS, and I am not lying.

We are all Proud Trump Republican supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA American Patriot citizens, I am not lying, these are Facts as many on NS love to say. GMS.

Just because a majority agree on something does not mean it is right. If you wish to remain in an echo chamber you may remain so. It does not make you any less wrong.

Ok, by your logic you and those who strongly agree with you are wrong. GMS.

[The Giant Space Wyrm]

Just because a majority agree on something does not mean it is right. If you wish to remain in an echo chamber you may remain so. It does not make you any less wrong.

Ok, by your logic you and those who strongly agree with you are wrong. GMS.

That's another thing. If the majority is wrong, then you need to prove it.

[Jebslund]

Actually, this is inaccurate.

You don't get to decide what you are. What you think of yourselves won't matter once you are gone. What future generations will think of you when you are gone will decide what you are and what generations that come after those learn about you from previous generations will eventually make your opinion superfluous to what was and was not true.

So far future generations will think you delusional because you cannot see past what you believe to be true, and what is true. You maintain that all other facts are untrue because the facts agree with what others believe but will fully believe in facts that agree with your own stance.

You have functionally not provided anything to this discussion except for sources that fall under your own criteria of being from people like you and who agree with you. Refusing to back up your claims with evidence from sources with some level of credibility.

Then smugly "laugh out loud" like you've achieved some small victory.

To all of you it might concern. very bad try, Wrong, I don't get to decide for you or anyone on NS and off NS what you are. You would all be very offended and insulted. You would all strongly disagree, these are Facts. Nobody gets to decide for anyone on NS and off NS what we are. No one on NS or off NS gets to decide what I am. No one on NS and off NS gets to decide what my family and I and Friends, the Euro Americans in the family and the dogs and the cats in the family are. We get to decide what we are.

I have a similar post on my new sig.

At the Family dinner Party I recently attended and posted about, we all strongly agree with each other. I tried once again, to get them to join me on NS and they refused. They would tell all of you the same thing if they were here on NS, and I am not lying.

We are all Proud Trump Republican supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA American Patriot citizens, I am not lying, these are Facts as many on NS love to say. GMS.

In my experience, those who feel the need to constantly say they are not lying generally are, and those who use the, "everyone says/feels/supports" line are generally giving only their own views and merely lack confidence enough in their convictions to assert them without making you think everyone else they've spoken to holds the same convictions.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Ok, by your logic you and those who strongly agree with you are wrong. GMS.

That's another thing. If the majority is wrong, then you need to prove it.

I respect all Persons rights to their opinions and views, while strongly disagreeing with them, with respect and no personal and political insults, this respect is given it is not earned, this respect is called democracy, as I have posted many times. I have made my logical statements, I here by drop this further unnecessary back and forth's. GMS.

[Bombadil]

In my experience, those who feel the need to constantly say they are not lying generally are, and those who use the, "everyone says/feels/supports" line are generally giving only their own views and merely lack confidence enough in their convictions to assert them without making you think everyone else they've spoken to holds the same convictions.

It's probably the opposite..

Vitriol and Jessecae K. Marsh, an associate professor of psychology at Lehigh University, have found new research that inflated confidence in one's understanding of politics and public policy is associated with the tendency to believe in political conspiracies.

That is, people who overestimate how well they understand politics are more likely to believe that hidden actors or clandestine groups are conspiring in wide-ranging activities to influence important world actions, events, and outcomes.

Isn't there some phrase about the tragedy being that the intelligent doubt and the foolish don't.

[The Giant Space Wyrm]

That's another thing. If the majority is wrong, then you need to prove it.

I respect all Persons rights to their opinions and views, as I have posted many times. I have made my logical statements, I here by drop this further unnecessary back and forth's. GMS.

Opinions and views are rights that everyone has, but treating everyone's opinions and views with respect are where I'm going to draw the line.

You can continue to pretend your small community somehow understands better how a country ought to be run by giving power to Trump and the rest of the GOP who are ready to kiss his ass for relection.

It doesn't mean I won't practice my right to point out that, that is a stupid idea.

[Kexholm Karelia]

For all Republicans

If the election is making you lose faith in America, remember the words of Ronald Reagan, America is an exceptional country and losing on election isn’t going to change that

[Neutraligon]

I respect all Persons rights to their opinions and views, as I have posted many times. I have made my logical statements, I here by drop this further unnecessary back and forth's. GMS.

Opinions and views are rights that everyone has, but treating everyone's opinions and views with respect are where I'm going to draw the line.

You can continue to pretend your small community somehow understands better how a country ought to be run by giving power to Trump and the rest of the GOP who are ready to kiss his ass.

It doesn't mean I won't practice my right to point out that, that is a stupid idea.

I do find it amusing how those who have fled a dictator before are trying to create another one while decrying the election process that put that dictators opponent in power.

[The Reformed American Republic]

For all Republicans

If the election is making you lose faith in America, remember the words of Ronald Reagan, America is an exceptional country and losing on election isn’t going to change that

Ronald Reagan was nothing more than a puppet for the elite. I don't know why you treat him like a founding father.

[Jebslund]

In my experience, those who feel the need to constantly say they are not lying generally are, and those who use the, "everyone says/feels/supports" line are generally giving only their own views and merely lack confidence enough in their convictions to assert them without making you think everyone else they've spoken to holds the same convictions.

It's probably the opposite..

Vitriol and Jessecae K. Marsh, an associate professor of psychology at Lehigh University, have found new research that inflated confidence in one's understanding of politics and public policy is associated with the tendency to believe in political conspiracies.

That is, people who overestimate how well they understand politics are more likely to believe that hidden actors or clandestine groups are conspiring in wide-ranging activities to influence important world actions, events, and outcomes.

Isn't there some phrase about the tragedy being that the intelligent doubt and the foolish don't.

My point being that the people you usually hear, "I'm not lying", and, "everybody thinks the same thing" from are usually full of shit.


Verdammt cellphone...

[The Reformed American Republic]

Ok, by your logic you and those who strongly agree with you are wrong. GMS.

That's another thing. If the majority is wrong, then you need to prove it.

We're in a post-truth era unfortunately, so I don't think he needs to prove anything. People will believe what they want to believe, and if they want Trump, they will believe any Alex Jones conspiracy theory when it supports their worldview against reality.