How does NSG feel about railways?

[Aclion]

Railways are really good for travel from on population center to another, and they're excellent for freight. Otherwise, they're very overrated.

[Esternial]

I mainly use a car due to where I work, but outside of work matters, I use trains quite a lot. My little country town has its own station, and we get hourly trains to the nearest city.

Certainly is expensive, though.

Yeah, the price is usually the problem. Plus the flexibility - the company I consult doesn't have the greatest connection to where I live, especially if I work late. Before the office locked down, I only used to go by train if there was a drink organized after work.

For personal matters I admittedly almost always use my car, since I've got a lease and fuel card for both professional and personal use, whereas train tickets I need to submit as a work-related expense.

[Heloin]

Railways are really good for travel from on population center to another, and they're excellent for freight. Otherwise, they're very overrated.

I don't think you know what overrated means.

[Saralonia]

I love them, I also love their cousin subways, I love public transportation in general, it just makes life easier anywhere, trains are an experience I hope I can have soon but subways I've to and they are ok

[Aclion]

Railways are really good for travel from on population center to another, and they're excellent for freight. Otherwise, they're very overrated.

I don't think you know what overrated means.

It means people appreciate it more then it deserves for example people who want a rail based system to replace air travel and driving.

[Heloin]

I don't think you know what overrated means.

It means people appreciate it more then it deserves for example people who want a rail based system to replace air travel and driving.

Rail does outclass both forms of transportation you've mentioned in just about every available sense of the word. Planes only have the advantage of speed, cars only have the advantage of very rural areas. So if your on a farm or need to travel overseas then rail wouldn't be your best option. In just about every other case you have to deliberately sabotage rail in order for other options aside from shipping to compete with it. So no, rail isn't overrated, it's underrated to such a degree that people think pointing that out is overrating it.

[Saralonia]

It means people appreciate it more then it deserves for example people who want a rail based system to replace air travel and driving.

Rail does outclass both forms of transportation you've mentioned in just about every available sense of the word. Planes only have the advantage of speed, cars only have the advantage of very rural areas. So if your on a farm or need to travel overseas then rail wouldn't be your best option. In just about every other case you have to deliberately sabotage rail in order for other options aside from shipping to compete with it. So no, rail isn't overrated, it's underrated to such a degree that people think pointing that out is overrating it.

And this is why buses exist, I believe that more nations should follow something similar to the public transport in Mexico City and the system of Integrated Mobility where there's a single map showing you all routes of public transport in which you can plan your route with just one map.

[Monsone]

I personally think railroads are a great form of transport, and I lament how much the rail system in my country (the USA) has declined because of automobile lobbies and cheap air travel. Trains won't be the end all be all (especially in large countries like the USA or Russia where flying makes sense because it is the fastest and most direct travel option), but I do think as the world goes greener, there will be a railroad renaissance to cope with the growing global population while keeping transportation cost low.

[Nuroblav]

But yeah, trains are very based. While I don't wish to limit transport to public only, I've found them to be a very good way of getting around. I only hope more advancements are made in the field of trains - the maglevs I find particularly interesting.

[Ethel mermania]

It means people appreciate it more then it deserves for example people who want a rail based system to replace air travel and driving.

Rail does outclass both forms of transportation you've mentioned in just about every available sense of the word. Planes only have the advantage of speed, cars only have the advantage of very rural areas. So if your on a farm or need to travel overseas then rail wouldn't be your best option. In just about every other case you have to deliberately sabotage rail in order for other options aside from shipping to compete with it. So no, rail isn't overrated, it's underrated to such a degree that people think pointing that out is overrating it.

flexibility, nothing is as flexible as the car. For rail service to work you have to be going where the train is going. Which is why heavy rail works so well for commuting. But even so, if i want to visit a friend on the other side of thr city. Its one hour by car door to door. Two hours by express commuter rail, and that does not count the cab from his station to his house.

[Aclion]

It means people appreciate it more then it deserves for example people who want a rail based system to replace air travel and driving.

Rail does outclass both forms of transportation you've mentioned in just about every available sense of the word. Planes only have the advantage of speed, cars only have the advantage of very rural areas. So if your on a farm or need to travel overseas then rail wouldn't be your best option. In just about every other case you have to deliberately sabotage rail in order for other options aside from shipping to compete with it. So no, rail isn't overrated, it's underrated to such a degree that people think pointing that out is overrating it.

Nope. Rail is too slow to replace air travel(you talk of sabotage, but its air that get hit with this the hardest) and to inflexible to replace cars.

Rails nitch is in linking the mass transport systems of neighboring cities. Where planes speed over long distances isn't needed, but rails inflexible nature isn't crippling. It has an addional niche as part of intermodal freight transport.

[Heloin]

Rail does outclass both forms of transportation you've mentioned in just about every available sense of the word. Planes only have the advantage of speed, cars only have the advantage of very rural areas. So if your on a farm or need to travel overseas then rail wouldn't be your best option. In just about every other case you have to deliberately sabotage rail in order for other options aside from shipping to compete with it. So no, rail isn't overrated, it's underrated to such a degree that people think pointing that out is overrating it.

flexibility, nothing is as flexible as the car. For rail service to work you have to be going where the train is going. Which is why heavy rail works so well for commuting. But even so, if i want to visit a friend on the other side of thr city. Its one hour by car door to door. Two hours by express commuter rail, and that does not count the cab from his station to his house.

I'd still argue that's not the sign of a better car network but the sign that the rail network needs improvements. I've never been to New York so I can't comment but in cities I've been to with good transit networks often the combination of trains and buses can get me to a location at the same time or faster then driving would have.

[Senkaku]

give me an american bullet train network or give me death

[Polish Prussian Commonwealth]

furby is that you

[Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire]

I like trains.

[Ethel mermania]

flexibility, nothing is as flexible as the car. For rail service to work you have to be going where the train is going. Which is why heavy rail works so well for commuting. But even so, if i want to visit a friend on the other side of thr city. Its one hour by car door to door. Two hours by express commuter rail, and that does not count the cab from his station to his house.

I'd still argue that's not the sign of a better car network but the sign that the rail network needs improvements. I've never been to New York so I can't comment but in cities I've been to with good transit networks often the combination of trains and buses can get me to a location at the same time or faster then driving would have.

Not here, and we are about as good as it gets in the states.

Certain areas yes, i wouldn't take a cab from downtown to uptown, subway is much quicker, but once you get out of the busy areas. It can't be as fast.

[Chan Island]

I have 2 stickers on my computer.

One them is a relatively recent Labour party one I put on the 2019 election.

The other is one that just says "I like trains."

.... I think you can guess my feelings on the subject.

[Silver Commonwealth]

So far it seems that most people in this thread like trains. That is pretty good.

[Farnhamia]

I'd still argue that's not the sign of a better car network but the sign that the rail network needs improvements. I've never been to New York so I can't comment but in cities I've been to with good transit networks often the combination of trains and buses can get me to a location at the same time or faster then driving would have.

Not here, and we are about as good as it gets in the states.

Certain areas yes, i wouldn't take a cab from downtown to uptown, subway is much quicker, but once you get out of the busy areas. It can't be as fast.

So? What are you in such a hurry for? Slow down.

[Punished UMN]

I don't think about them very often.

[Ethel mermania]

Not here, and we are about as good as it gets in the states.

Certain areas yes, i wouldn't take a cab from downtown to uptown, subway is much quicker, but once you get out of the busy areas. It can't be as fast.

So? What are you in such a hurry for? Slow down.

Just remember in my line of work, the light at the end of the tunnel is always an oncoming train.

[Farnhamia]

So? What are you in such a hurry for? Slow down.

Just remember in my line of work, the light at the end of the tunnel is always an oncoming train.

And in that final moment, you're trying to figure out ... Sixth Avenue Express? No, wait, it's a local, I thi-

[The Huskar Social Union]

They aint bad, been on a train a few times, usually to Dublin and its not bad, in fact very comfortable in my experience for the most part.

[Ethel mermania]

Just remember in my line of work, the light at the end of the tunnel is always an oncoming train.

And in that final moment, you're trying to figure out ... Sixth Avenue Express? No, wait, it's a local, I thi-

And now its running on 2nd Avenue

ETHELL!!!

pretty much a true story.

[Jetan]

I wish the tickets were cheaper and the Railway company wouldn't get bamboozled by leaves and snow every year, but other than that no complaints. We should be expanding the rail networks really, unless something like hydrogen planes come out our current air travel based system cannot continue indefinately.