2020 US General Election Thread XII: The End

[Thermodolia]

Impossible. Ben Garrison showed me that Trump is a mighty chad with impeccable posture and lots of sharp angles!

It was like 3 weeks ago when I learned he was a real person.

Im definitely sure that Benny here is probably deep in the closet

[Major-Tom]

Land doesnt vote. People do.

People don't vote, states do.

Daring today, aren't we?

[Heloin]

The person with the most votes not winning is a bad thing.

Its not if the other person won more states. It's bad enough that New York for example, is solid red but almost always appears solid blue because of solely NYC. The popular vote is used at the more local level, so that should be sufficient.

If the EC is about states then why isn't it just a vote by the senate? What's the point of the larger presidential election if it's not about the people?

[Cisairse]

You'd think that if the Dems were committing widespread vote fraud like Trump claims they are, they'd have given themselves the Senate.

[Gravlen]

Trump is 49.5% and Biden 49.3% really close! Come on Georgia, flip!

Actually it’s less than that. Trump only leads by .1%

.07%

[Picairn]

People don't vote, states do.

States are artificial beings created by people. So the people vote, not states.

[Jedi Council]

THe fucking New York Post turned on him-

Fucking cowards, just like the rest of the GOP.

Hitch up to the Trump Train and jump off just before it inevitably explodes.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Because the US is unique amongst developed nations and it being different is arguably a feature, instead of a flaw.

The person with the most votes not winning is a bad thing.

Though it's notable that France doesn't exactly use that system. "The person with the most votes" in a field of five or six could well be Marine le Pen. The other parties did a deal one year to ensure she didn't make the runoff. And you can only do that if you have runoff elections (instant or actual).

[San Lumen]

Land doesnt vote. People do.

People don't vote, states do.

And it should be the popular vote only. if candidate for your states governor got the most votes but lost the election because their opponent won more counties would you think that was fair?

[Jolthig]

Land doesnt vote. People do.

People don't vote, states do.

Which is based on the population of that particular state.

[Zurkerx]

Hi all, so I apologized for not being in the conversation. For some reason I can't get on here one of my Wi-Fi but somehow I can get on here without it. Sighs.

Anyway, I'll update the spreadsheet either Sunday or Monday and add the people from the other thread. I apologize.

Anyway, it looks like while this will be close, Biden will win it. And Trump is fighting everything by what I see too. Anyway, Biden needs 1-2 States and he has this. And I think he will.

[Myrth]

Apparently there have been attempts to get rid of the electoral college in the past. Problem is, both parties can't agree on how to do so. So....politics. that's why.

Problem is that it would require a constitutional amendment, which 2/3rds of the states would have to agree to. The redneck states will never vote away their disproportionate power. There's a thing called the interstate EC compact, where states sign up to simply give their EVs to the winner of the popular vote. It simply requires enough states to sign up that would give 270 EVs for this to effectively bypass the EC.

[Jolthig]

THe fucking New York Post turned on him-

wow. Last time I heard biden was the bad guy. Now it's trump.

[San Lumen]

You'd think that if the Dems were committing widespread vote fraud like Trump claims they are, they'd have given themselves the Senate.

Exactly.

[Ghost Land]

Trump is 49.5% and Biden 49.3% really close! Come on Georgia, flip!

Actually it’s less than that. Trump only leads by .1%

3,486 votes to be exact, according to AP. I'm getting really concerned.

I never thought Georgia would be a swing state. I thought it was another one of the firmly red states like Mississippi and Alabama.

[Thermodolia]

Actually it’s less than that. Trump only leads by .1%

.07%

Holy fuck

[Jolthig]

Apparently there have been attempts to get rid of the electoral college in the past. Problem is, both parties can't agree on how to do so. So....politics. that's why.

Problem is that it would require a constitutional amendment, which 2/3rds of the states would have to agree to. The redneck states will never vote away their disproportionate power. There's a thing called the interstate EC compact, where states sign up to simply give their EVs to the winner of the popular vote. It simply requires enough states to sign up that would give 270 EVs for this to effectively bypass the EC.

right. Like I said, politics.

[Telconi]

People don't vote, states do.

And it should be the popular vote only. if candidate for your states governor got the most votes but lost the election because their opponent won more counties would you think that was fair?

Why is fairness the goal?

[Kanadorika]

I was a wildland firefighter in 2016 and I lived in Paradise. Can confirm we did not rake the forest. You can blame the fire on me.

Would have cutting down it all somehow helped it?

Nah. The forests of the Sierra Nevada are massive and it's some of the roughest terrain in the country, not counting the damage to pristine wilderness.

We did some controlled burns but in late 2016 the weather was so wet we couldn't get anything to light up. 2017 brought massive rains, Oroville dam almost exploded, and the forests were ripe with new plant life.

Which then dies and burns by 2018.

The residents of Paradise and Magalia had a habit of concealing their homes with thick brush and trees to hide whatever illegal operations they were doing (Meth, Marijuana) and that only made things worse.

[Major-Tom]

THe fucking New York Post turned on him-

Fucking cowards, just like the rest of the GOP.

Hitch up to the Trump Train and jump off just before it inevitably explodes.

Yes, but for the sake of a civil weekend, I'm immensely relieved that so many people are jumping ship. Doubling down only incites more rage.

[Jolthig]

.07%

Holy fuck

biden just needs a bit more!

[Alternamerica]

With Republicans abandoning Trump, Conservative judges refusing his lawsuits or threats of it, and the possibility of GA flipping, I bring you
Coping

[Nagakawa]

You mean the photocopy machine cartoon?

At this point I'm convinced that Garrison's career as a cartoonist is just a front for him to share his fetishes with the world.

Just googled it, Jesus fucking christ....

Here, have a picture of my cat to cleanse your mind.

Apparently there have been attempts to get rid of the electoral college in the past. Problem is, both parties can't agree on how to do so. So....politics. that's why.

Problem is that it would require a constitutional amendment, which 2/3rds of the states would have to agree to. The redneck states will never vote away their disproportionate power. There's a thing called the interstate EC compact, where states sign up to simply give their EVs to the winner of the popular vote. It simply requires enough states to sign up that would give 270 EVs for this to effectively bypass the EC.

Hmm... meaning that even if a lot of other states boycott the EC, it doesn't matter as long as there are enough states remaining who can make up 270 for any one candidate?

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Land doesnt vote. People do.

People don't vote, states do. People vote for what a state should do.

You're thinking of the Senate, where people of one state have EQUAL representation to people of another state.

In the Electoral college, small states get a positive bias but they do NOT get equality.

[Major-Tom]

Actually it’s less than that. Trump only leads by .1%

3,486 votes to be exact, according to AP. I'm getting really concerned.

I never thought Georgia would be a swing state. I thought it was another one of the firmly red states like Mississippi and Alabama.

Georgia built different.