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What's Your Opinion on The Election's Outcome

Mostly Good
94
21%
Good
84
19%
A Little of Both Good and Bad
125
28%
Meh
51
11%
Bad
46
10%
Very Bad
44
10%
 
Total votes : 444

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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:52 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
He's all but won. There's no proof that it is in any way fraudulent. They've even corrected a few mistakes they found - one in Biden's favour, one in Trump's favour.


Hes all but...what? Been declared by media corporations?


Surely you know the rules of your own democracy. He's probably going to get 300 electoral votes by the end of it, at least. That's 'winning' the election, in case you didn't know.

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Postby Jedi Council » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:52 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
He's all but won. There's no proof that it is in any way fraudulent. They've even corrected a few mistakes they found - one in Biden's favour, one in Trump's favour.


Hes all but...what? Been declared by media corporations?

Well anyone with a basic understanding of addition and subtraction could figure it out by this point.
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Postby Nazeroth » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:53 am

Jedi Council wrote:
Nakena wrote:
He is not gone yet. And he has still a number of ways how he can remain in office depending on how far the GOP is willing to go, aka having red states assuming direct control over the electors. (yes they can)

Which would be an radical measure. But hey the GOP isnt known for disenfranchising voters. Mitch and Co. would NEVER do somesuch.

All of those would not be fair and square though, which is part of the issue Nazeroth was mentioning g


Your using terms like fair and square when talking about groups that include the DNC...you...know that right?
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:53 am

Nakena wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Oh? So you wouldn't mind putting some money on Trump making a come back?


He is not gone yet. And he has still a number of ways how he can remain in office depending on how far the GOP is willing to go, aka having red states assuming direct control over the electors. (yes they can)

Which would be an radical measure. But hey the GOP isnt known for disenfranchising voters. Mitch and Co. would never do such a thing. Like ever. ;)


If they're willing to kill their democracy by acting like that, they've got much bigger problems than worrying about the Trump presidency resuming.

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Postby Picairn » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:54 am

Nazeroth wrote:Your using terms like fair and square when talking about groups that include the DNC...you...know that right?

Back to the conspiracy theory that the DNC "stole the election", amirite?
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Postby Jedi Council » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:54 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:All of those would not be fair and square though, which is part of the issue Nazeroth was mentioning g


Your using terms like fair and square when talking about groups that include the DNC...you...know that right?

There has yet to be any definitive proof of voter fraud in 2020.

Show some, then we can talk
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:54 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:All of those would not be fair and square though, which is part of the issue Nazeroth was mentioning g


Your using terms like fair and square when talking about groups that include the DNC...you...know that right?


Yes. They're a bunch of snake politicians, but they're a bunch of snake politicians who won this election.

Stop making a fool of yourselves and accept it.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:55 am

Jedi Council wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Anti Trump statements and calls to give up from Democrat mayors and other politicians is to be expected, for obvious reasons, they are Democrats. GMS.

And because Trump losing is essentially a mathematical certainty at this point.

The networks should have called it today, Trump should have conceded this evening.

I called it on general for Biden and the RP on election night, based on the results I was seeing. I kept my word.

But I also stated, if there are contested election results for any reasons by Republican President Trump, Republican Trump supporters will support President Trump, and Biden Democrat supporters, will support Biden, until it is settled either way, by the US Supreme Court. GMS.

On the RP of my real life based nation of the USA, I called it for Biden and reopened the case based on the legall challenges by President Trump.

GMS.
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Postby Nazeroth » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:55 am

Albrenia wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Your using terms like fair and square when talking about groups that include the DNC...you...know that right?


Yes. They're a bunch of snake politicians, but they're a bunch of snake politicians who won this election.

Stop making a fool of yourselves and accept it.


When it goes through the legal channels sure
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:56 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Yes. They're a bunch of snake politicians, but they're a bunch of snake politicians who won this election.

Stop making a fool of yourselves and accept it.


When it goes through the legal channels sure


Legal channels to do what?
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Postby Nazeroth » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:57 am

Vassenor wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
When it goes through the legal channels sure


Legal channels to do what?


Idk lawsuits coming in, well see how they all play out.

Were a nation of laws after all.
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:57 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Yes. They're a bunch of snake politicians, but they're a bunch of snake politicians who won this election.

Stop making a fool of yourselves and accept it.


When it goes through the legal channels sure


Why does this one need a SCOTUS challenge, whereas others did not?

I mean, I'm fine with it happening, if you guys will 'bend the knee' once it falls on its face. I'll certainly accept a ruling in your favour, although I doubt many of your countrymen will.

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Postby Picairn » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:57 am

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Postby Jedi Council » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:57 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Yes. They're a bunch of snake politicians, but they're a bunch of snake politicians who won this election.

Stop making a fool of yourselves and accept it.


When it goes through the legal channels sure

What are you on about?

The networks calling it have nothing to do with the legal channels
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Postby Nazeroth » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:58 am

Albrenia wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
When it goes through the legal channels sure


Why does this one need a SCOTUS challenge, whereas others did not?

I mean, I'm fine with it happening, if you guys will 'bend the knee' once it falls on its face. I'll certainly accept a ruling in your favour, although I doubt many of your countrymen will.


Nobody has to “bend the knee” to anyone presidents are not kings
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:58 am


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Postby Nazeroth » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:58 am

Jedi Council wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
When it goes through the legal channels sure

What are you on about?

The networks calling it have nothing to do with the legal channels


Im well aware
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Postby Necroghastia » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:58 am

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Were a nation of laws after all.

If ever there was a typo that summed up the Trump admin in a nutshell...
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:58 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Legal channels to do what?


Idk lawsuits coming in, well see how they all play out.

Were a nation of laws after all.


Suppose it turns out there was foul play involved in those 300.000 ballots Trumps postmaster general refused to recover, and that Bidens victory was even larger... what would you do ?
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:59 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Why does this one need a SCOTUS challenge, whereas others did not?

I mean, I'm fine with it happening, if you guys will 'bend the knee' once it falls on its face. I'll certainly accept a ruling in your favour, although I doubt many of your countrymen will.


Nobody has to “bend the knee” to anyone presidents are not kings


Lol calm down, it's a joke.

I mean accept the result and not keep bitching like children.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:59 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Why does this one need a SCOTUS challenge, whereas others did not?

I mean, I'm fine with it happening, if you guys will 'bend the knee' once it falls on its face. I'll certainly accept a ruling in your favour, although I doubt many of your countrymen will.


Nobody has to “bend the knee” to anyone presidents are not kings


Tell that to the crowd who demanded that we show Trump unflinching loyalty.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:59 am

Vassenor wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
When it goes through the legal channels sure


Legal channels to do what?

To The US Supreme Court, on vote fraud charges by the Democrats.

Until it is settled either way.

GMS.
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Postby Nakena » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:59 am

Albrenia wrote:
Nakena wrote:
He is not gone yet. And he has still a number of ways how he can remain in office depending on how far the GOP is willing to go, aka having red states assuming direct control over the electors. (yes they can)

Which would be an radical measure. But hey the GOP isnt known for disenfranchising voters. Mitch and Co. would never do such a thing. Like ever. ;)


If they're willing to kill their democracy by acting like that, they've got much bigger problems than worrying about the Trump presidency resuming.


I believe that what currently is going on is a total attempt at total political war and power grab. No matter how many people die or how much the country suffers. I do have little doubt they would be going very very far that much. Yes.

Specifically since now Puerto Rico might be on the road to statehood which may further tip the balance towards Dems. As things stand right now GOP and DEMs are two hostile tribes who seldom talk to each other. (Biden is perhaps an exception here) Ready to throw everything they got at each other.
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