2020 US General Election Thread XII: The End

[San Lumen]

Republicans could have also kept it private and been decent people but why do that?

The fucker should have been decent himself, don’t blame the republicans for his fault. The republicans didn’t force him to cheat.

Also you know damn well that you would be jumping at the chance to expose a republican as a cheater if they did the same. Don’t tell me you wouldn’t

I would

[Greater Miami Shores]

We need to unify as a nation, no if’s, and’s, or but’s. Creating more division will not heal us as a country. Even the president-elect called for people to stop looking at each other as enemies. I don’t even necessarily like Biden, but in this instance he’s right-let’s put down our arms and try to reach out to each other.

Now if he’ll double-down on that himself and try to encourage bipartisanship for real, and not just with nice words, then we might have something going. Our country is ill, and we need to work together to make it better.

Your country has become ill in part due to rhetoric and hatred from the right, and I do not see cooperation and compromise when that party continues to exist in present form.

Many on the right does as you say, but many on the left does as you say as well. I for one am fair and balanced. GMS.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Team Trump held a press conference in Las Vegas Sunday afternoon to update voters and the public on the fraudulent and/or unsecure activity they’ve uncovered since Election Day that may have resulted in hundreds of thousands of illegally-cast votes being counted.

A van load of ballots arriving at one vote center, where they were unsealed, ballots substituted, then re-sealed

https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2020/11 ... ts-n276964

GMS: Interesting list and comments.

Interesting? It's as interesting as watching Alex Jones. All conspiracy theories, no substance. Biden didn't steal the election, and Trump is just projecting again like he always does because he tried to steal the election and failed.

[Celritannia]

Your country has become ill in part due to rhetoric and hatred from the right, and I do not see cooperation and compromise when that party continues to exist in present form.

Many on the right does as you say, but many on the left does as you say as well. I for one am fair and balanced. GMS.

Except when spreading lies that the Democrats cheated.

[Kannap]

Agreed, maybe he'd have won if he didn't cheat on his wife.

Republicans could have also kept it private and been decent people but why do that?

The man could have also not cheated on his wife.

Look, I'm going to put more weight on the guy who literally cheated on his wife than the people who tattled about it. One is easily worse than the other.

[Valrifell]

Team Trump held a press conference in Las Vegas Sunday afternoon to update voters and the public on the fraudulent and/or unsecure activity they’ve uncovered since Election Day that may have resulted in hundreds of thousands of illegally-cast votes being counted.

A van load of ballots arriving at one vote center, where they were unsealed, ballots substituted, then re-sealed

https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2020/11 ... ts-n276964

GMS: Interesting list and comments.

Interesting? It's as interesting as watching Alex Jones. All conspiracy theories, no substance. Biden didn't steal the election, and Trump is just projecting again like he always does because he tried to steal the election and failed.

To be fair, at least Alex Jones accidentally brought to light a story of corporate malpractice, regulatory capture, and coverups, through the frog quote. Trump has less actually less value than Alex Jones.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

The thing is that a lot of policies only make sense at the national or even international level.

I'd like to not choke to death, so I support air pollution regulation, but this is only effective if all of my neighbours play ball. I live about a thousand kilometres away from a major manufacturing basin, but there is an international border between here and there so there's absolutely nothing I can do about pollution from that basin turning the skies here gray (said neighbour is also really adamant about their coal heritage). If you take regulatory powers away from the federal government and give it to the states, this is exactly the situation you will be recreating right there in North America.

Chopping government into many smaller bits don't make for more manageable government; it makes for an utterly ineffective one.

Which is why libertarians want to do it.

Can everyone stop equating ancaps, minarchists and hoppeans with the entirety of libertarianism? I mean it may seem minor but I don't wanna be associated with people on the total opposite side of the political spectrum from me just because they too claim to be against oppressive government.

[Sanghyeok]

Your country has become ill in part due to rhetoric and hatred from the right, and I do not see cooperation and compromise when that party continues to exist in present form.

Many on the right does as you say, but many on the left does as you say as well. I for one am fair and balanced. GMS.

I would not call the news sources you're using fair and balanced.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

The fucker should have been decent himself, don’t blame the republicans for his fault. The republicans didn’t force him to cheat.

Also you know damn well that you would be jumping at the chance to expose a republican as a cheater if they did the same. Don’t tell me you wouldn’t

I would

Then why are you getting mad at republicans for doing the same?

[Valrifell]

Which is why libertarians want to do it.

Can everyone stop equating ancaps, minarchists and hoppeans with the entirety of libertarianism? I mean it may seem minor but I don't wanna be associated with people on the total opposite side of the political spectrum from me just because they too claim to be against oppressive government.

Don't worry, people won't associate the lib-left with those guys cuz we're rad as fuck, unlike ancaps.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Agreed, maybe he'd have won if he didn't cheat on his wife.

Republicans could have also kept it private and been decent people but why do that?

Nah, fuck that. If he's a scumbag then he needs to be outted.

[Valrifell]

I would

Then why are you getting mad at republicans for doing the same?

Lumen is a DNC partisan and is fairly open about that.

[The New California Republic]

Your country has become ill in part due to rhetoric and hatred from the right, and I do not see cooperation and compromise when that party continues to exist in present form.

Many on the right does as you say, but many on the left does as you say as well. I for one am fair and balanced. GMS.

Not really, you have been putting forward claims of fraud. That's not "fair" and "balanced".

[Ifreann]

Which is why libertarians want to do it.

Can everyone stop equating ancaps, minarchists and hoppeans with the entirety of libertarianism? I mean it may seem minor but I don't wanna be associated with people on the total opposite side of the political spectrum from me just because they too claim to be against oppressive government.

The cool kind of libertarians can just call themselves anarchists.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Can everyone stop equating ancaps, minarchists and hoppeans with the entirety of libertarianism? I mean it may seem minor but I don't wanna be associated with people on the total opposite side of the political spectrum from me just because they too claim to be against oppressive government.

Don't worry, people won't associate the lib-left with those guys cuz we're rad as fuck, unlike ancaps.

Hopefully so. I just hate that our country doesn't have a libleft party i can vote for and truly be proud of.

I'll vote for a liberterian party member for like the county clerk just to spite the GOP and dems and then they start ranting about "The free market will fix everything." Like yeeeeeah you had me till you said that.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Can everyone stop equating ancaps, minarchists and hoppeans with the entirety of libertarianism? I mean it may seem minor but I don't wanna be associated with people on the total opposite side of the political spectrum from me just because they too claim to be against oppressive government.

The cool kind of libertarians can just call themselves anarchists.

I dont know if I'm really an anarchist though. I support having some form of government, maybe a state, but I support most actions happening at local level and being horizontally organized and democratic. Im definitely riding that borderline with anarchism but I would say my ideology is more akin to the territory my nation is named after. So some leadership but its democratically chosen and we don't start kissing its ass and treating the people in charge like they were divinely ordained and superior.

[Kannap]

I would

Then why are you getting mad at republicans for doing the same?

When Republicans do it, it's uncivilized and wrong. When Democrats do it, they're showing the public who their opponents really are and are doing the right thing.

Something like that

[San Lumen]

I would

Then why are you getting mad at republicans for doing the same?

What I meant was I would not reveal it and keep it private.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Then why are you getting mad at republicans for doing the same?

When Republicans do it, it's uncivilized and wrong. When Democrats do it, they're showing the public who their opponents really are and are doing the right thing.

Something like that

Being a partisan sucks. Like is it that hard to just admit that a candidate you support did something wrong?

[Kannap]

Then why are you getting mad at republicans for doing the same?

What I meant was I would not reveal it and keep it private.

This is why you're not a politician.

[Kannap]

When Republicans do it, it's uncivilized and wrong. When Democrats do it, they're showing the public who their opponents really are and are doing the right thing.

Something like that

Being a partisan sucks. Like is it that hard to just admit that a candidate you support did something wrong?

Apparently yes.

[Post War America]

Then why are you getting mad at republicans for doing the same?

What I meant was I would not reveal it and keep it private.

You really shouldn't. Marital infidelity, while hardly the worst crime, is definitely an indicator of a dishonest character, we have enough dishonest politicians in power.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Being a partisan sucks. Like is it that hard to just admit that a candidate you support did something wrong?

Apparently yes.

This is one of many reasons I don't identify as democratic or republican. Alot of times they fight over petty shit.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Your country has become ill in part due to rhetoric and hatred from the right, and I do not see cooperation and compromise when that party continues to exist in present form.

Many on the right does as you say, but many on the left does as you say as well. I for one am fair and balanced. GMS.

Talking of fair and balanced, I see Trump's commie Russian puppet masters are still backing their boy and not recognising Biden's win.

[San Lumen]

What I meant was I would not reveal it and keep it private.

You really shouldn't. Marital infidelity, while hardly the worst crime, is definitely an indicator of a dishonest character, we have enough dishonest politicians in power.

Don’t care. It’s not something the public has any business knowing. Everyone one knew JFK was having an affair with Marilyn Monroe after her famous performance and no one cared.