2020 US General Election Thread XII: The End

[Tarsonis]

This is a pretty good analysis, too.

I call BS on that.This is the full story.

I think this guy has a good take

[Torisakia]

Basically a third-world country with a first-world hat on, imo (not literally, that's just my analogy).

I mean.. I was totally relaxed during this election simply by not watching the news at all. I was here, watching a map, .538 and running maths on an Excel program.

I was talking about this with a friend, that if you view America through the prism of the news it's all aflame and fighting, but as he noted people are having BBQs, taking their kids to soccer, most of America is perfectly charming and peaceful.

Increasingly I'm not too bothered with the news, it's a bit like my attitude to emails, if it's important someone will come and tell me.

I've attempted to block out the news and stuff from my day-to-day life, but I almost always get met by the "you're ignoring reality and being willfully ignorant" crowd and am basically forced back into it so I'm not ostracized by society.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

A rare moment of unity and goodwill between Trump and Biden supporters

Still no sign of any post-election riots, looting, arson, and mass violence and disorder by hardcore Trump supporters salty about the election result.

[Jedi Council]

It's sad, I knew all those links weren't real link but I clicked them all anyway just to see what you twisted people wanted me to see.

[Plzen]

I was talking about this with a friend, that if you view America through the prism of the news it's all aflame and fighting, but as he noted people are having BBQs, taking their kids to soccer, most of America is perfectly charming and peaceful.

The news has a tendency to cover the exciting and the attention-grabbing (because that's what brings in the viewers), and these tend to be negative events. To paraphrase a book I've read recently, a journalist who reports on planes that didn't crash would quickly lose the job.

[Torisakia]

A rare moment of unity and goodwill between Trump and Biden supporters

Still no sign of any post-election riots, looting, arson, and mass violence and disorder by hardcore Trump supporters salty about the election result.

So you mean I stocked up on ammunition and emergency 48 hour food supplys for nothing?

I want a refund.

[Picairn]

It's sad, I knew all those links weren't real link but I clicked them all anyway just to see what you twisted people wanted me to see.

I admire your courage.

[Cisairse]

It's sad, I knew all those links weren't real link but I clicked them all anyway just to see what you twisted people wanted me to see.

same

[Rusozak]

A rare moment of unity and goodwill between Trump and Biden supporters

Still no sign of any post-election riots, looting, arson, and mass violence and disorder by hardcore Trump supporters salty about the election result.

So you mean I stocked up on ammunition and emergency 48 hour food supplys for nothing?

I want a refund.

Rest assured, 2020 will still give you a reason to need that.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

A rare moment of unity and goodwill between Trump and Biden supporters

Still no sign of any post-election riots, looting, arson, and mass violence and disorder by hardcore Trump supporters salty about the election result.

So you mean I stocked up on ammunition and emergency 48 hour food supplys for nothing?

I want a refund.

Business owners boarding up their windows obviously weren't worried about Trump supporters or right-wing militias smashing up their businesses...

[Rusozak]

So you mean I stocked up on ammunition and emergency 48 hour food supplys for nothing?

I want a refund.

Business owners boarding up their windows obviously weren't worried about Trump supporters or right-wing militias smashing up their businesses...

Poll workers were, though.

[Torisakia]

So you mean I stocked up on ammunition and emergency 48 hour food supplys for nothing?

I want a refund.

Rest assured, 2020 will still give you a reason to need that.

I originally bought the food supplys because I was without power for over 72 hours because Alabama Power is so damn incompetent that they don't know how to simply flip a switch and basically risk people dying. The ammunition was just because it was on sale. I've never even shot an actual gun either.

[Cisairse]

I wish guns were legal in my state.

[Plzen]

Business owners boarding up their windows obviously weren't worried about Trump supporters or right-wing militias smashing up their businesses...

Poll workers were, though.

I'm sure a fascinating discussion can be had here on the nature of the relationship between democracy and capitalism.

[Bombadil]

So you mean I stocked up on ammunition and emergency 48 hour food supplys for nothing?

I want a refund.

Business owners boarding up their windows obviously weren't worried about Trump supporters or right-wing militias smashing up their businesses...

Well Trump hasn't conceded yet, death threats have been sent to the Philadelphia guy in charge of counting, two police captains - in Arkansas and Alabama - have had to stepped down for posting incitements to kill liberals..

..hopefully by the time he does concede, if he does, tempers will have settled.

[Torisakia]

..hopefully by the time he does concede, if he does, tempers will have settled.

Doubt it. People love being angry.

[Kowani]

So you mean I stocked up on ammunition and emergency 48 hour food supplys for nothing?

I want a refund.

Business owners boarding up their windows obviously weren't worried about Trump supporters or right-wing militias smashing up their businesses...

Maybe they should have worried about their homes being shot up instead.

[Pasong Tirad]

It's a good scam, to be honest.

You drag out the campaign season a bit longer while you take people's money and pay down your debts. The lawsuits are like an operating cost.

He's thinking of going back on the campaign rally trail.

Meanwhile..

One obstacle to a smooth transition between Trump and Biden may be Emily Murphy, a little-known Trump appointee who is in charge of the General Services Administration, according to a new story out this evening from the Washington Post:

Murphy is “refusing to sign a letter allowing Biden’s transition team to formally begin its work this week”, the Post reported, noting that her job includes signing “paperwork officially turning over millions of dollars, as well as giving access to government officials, office space and equipment authorized for the taxpayer-funded transition teams of the winner”.

This is a rarely-discussed duty, typically executed without incident in the period after a new president is elected. It’s a formal letter from the federal government acknowledging the winner of the race, separate from the media calls. But the Post found that almost 36 hours after the projection of a Biden win, Murphy had not written the letter, and that the “the Trump administration, in keeping with the president’s failure to concede the election, has no immediate plans to sign one”.

That refusal would lead to the first delay in modern history of a transition process, other than the supreme court dispute in 2000 surrounding the Florida recount, the paper said. A Biden spokesperson told the Post in a statement:

Now that the election has been independently called for Joe Biden, we look forward to the GSA Administrator quickly ascertaining Joe Biden and Kamala Harris as the President-elect and Vice President-elect. America’s national security and economic interests depend on the federal government signaling clearly and swiftly that the United States government will respect the will of the American people and engage in a smooth and peaceful transfer of power.”

So, a coup. A very weak, soft coup.

[Albrenia]

So you mean I stocked up on ammunition and emergency 48 hour food supplys for nothing?

I want a refund.

Business owners boarding up their windows obviously weren't worried about Trump supporters or right-wing militias smashing up their businesses...

Please note that most of the crazies who would be the type to become violent over this election are currently cackling to themselves about Trump's master plan of 'stopping the steal' and carrying on a 2nd term. Any violence is likely to occur once SCOTUS rejects the case, or when Biden is officially sworn in.

[Blargoblarg]

Something to be concerned about: We could easily end up with another Trump-like Republican president in four years. Trump himself could even run again in 2024.

[Kowani]

You know, I often complain about the Lincoln Grift Project.
Look at that, I was vindicated.

[Jedi Council]

Something to be concerned about: We could easily end up with another Trump-like Republican president in four years. Trump himself could even run again in 2024.

The biggest question, apart from whether Trump will run in 2024, is whether or not his base will turn out for a Republican that is not him.

If we see Mike Pence, Marco Rubio, or Nikki Haley as the GOP nominee, does the Trump voter identify with them as much as they did Donald? Do we see the huge turnout in tiny rural counties in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin? Can they appeal to the white working class in a way that Romney, McCain and Bush never and keep the Rust Belt Competitive as Trump has?

There are alot of question marks for the GOP. The amount of people, especially on the right, cheered by the fact that Trump did not lose this election in a massive landslide, that say a 2024 Republican victory is certain need to really be careful they dont go through what the left did in 2016. We largely assumed that Obama voters would be Clinton voters, that she could motivate the Obama Coalition.

We were wrong, and anyone calling 2024 yet is probably wrong too.

[Telconi]

You know, I often complain about the Lincoln Grift Project.
Look at that, I was vindicated.

We paid ourselves, to advise ourselves, and we advised more advice.

[Vassenor]

So there will be no Wisconsin recount because the Trump Campaign is refusing to pay the fee.

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Something to be concerned about: We could easily end up with another Trump-like Republican president in four years. Trump himself could even run again in 2024.

The biggest question, apart from whether Trump will run in 2024, is whether or not his base will turn out for a Republican that is not him.

If we see Mike Pence, Marco Rubio, or Nikki Haley as the GOP nominee, does the Trump voter identify with them as much as they did Donald? Do we see the huge turnout in tiny rural counties in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin? Can they appeal to the white working class in a way that Romney, McCain and Bush never and keep the Rust Belt Competitive as Trump has?

There are alot of question marks for the GOP. The amount of people, especially on the right, cheered by the fact that Trump did not lose this election in a massive landslide, that say a 2024 Republican victory is certain need to really be careful they dont go through what the left did in 2016. We largely assumed that Obama voters would be Clinton voters, that she could motivate the Obama Coalition.

We were wrong, and anyone calling 2024 yet is probably wrong too.

It depends on how much influence Trump plans to wield after his Presidency is over, and my guess is that he isn't going to retire into obscurity like most ex-Presidents do. Maybe his plan is still the original plan when he expected to lose 2016, to start his own media empire.

I think Trump could convince most of his supporters to come out for the next Republican candidate because right-wingers by nature fall in line, they carry out their orders.

When Bernie Sanders tries to convince his supporters to vote for Clinton or Biden, many of them refuse, because their ideology means more to them than the man. And when Bernie decides to stand behind a candidate who opposes that ideology, a good deal of his supporters say "then fuck Bernie too." That is how leftists are by nature. Not obedient like the right.