2020 US General Election Thread XII: The End

[Jedi Council]

You could be much happier in Canada, the UK, Denmark, or any country objectively better than the US.

But whining about the US and wanting to go live in a place that is objectively worse, and largely not even comparable, is just nonsensical.

That's just how desperate I am to leave, honestly.

Well dont be.

Until you've gone hungry or have been beaten for your sexuality or imprisoned for no reason, with no civil rights, you cannot claim that these place are better then the US.

[Odreria]

Dear lord, the Senate was misled about Iraq, the whole country was. You know how many Senators voted for it and then regretted it literally months later when they got new information?

It might speak to poor judgment on Biden's part, and on the part of many Democrats at the time, but it doesn't make him a bad person.

He'd been advocating for war with Iraq long before it ever came to vote.

which is not to say that Colin Powell should not be prosecuted for crimes against peace.

[Jedi Council]

Dear lord, the Senate was misled about Iraq, the whole country was. You know how many Senators voted for it and then regretted it literally months later when they got new information?

It might speak to poor judgment on Biden's part, and on the part of many Democrats at the time, but it doesn't make him a bad person.

He'd been advocating for war with Iraq long before it ever came to vote.

Source?

[Cordel One]

You're serious. Like, actually serious.

As a Marxist I would not have voted for Biden if he wasn't a fellow Marxist

I can feel my sanity slipping

[Odreria]

He'd been advocating for war with Iraq long before it ever came to vote.

Source?

source

[Cordel One]

He'd been advocating for war with Iraq long before it ever came to vote.

Source?

It's only fair I give one

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Odreria beat me to it

[Bombadil]

And begging your pardon, that's fucking ridiculous. I mean I can understand wanting to live somewhere else. I wouldn't mind moving to NZ or Europe. Iceland would be nice, if they'd have me. Hell, even Canada, (though I expect Jedi to do everything to block my immigration.) But the idea that "Anyplace else is better than here" is just fucking dumb.

Just an unpopular opinion I suppose. Just how far the political discourse over the past few years has pushed me, in a way.

Here, a list of far more open and friendly places to move to with some ease.. https://nomadlist.com

[Torisakia]

That's just how desperate I am to leave, honestly.

Well dont be.

Until you've gone hungry or have been beaten for your sexuality or imprisoned for no reason, with no civil rights, you cannot claim that these place are better then the US.

"Don't be" as in "Don't be desperate to leave for a worse country" or "don't be" as in "don't be desperate to leave because there is no better country"? I'm assuming the former.

While I may not want to move to Saudi Arabia (the "living as a gay man in Saudi Arabia" part was simply to show my desperation to leave), I definitely no longer want anything to do with or associate myself with a country as embarrassing as the US. As I mentioned, I do plan to leave sometime within the next 2-3 years (hopefully sooner). I would like to go somewhere maybe in Europe or Asia, just depends on where the wind takes me.

[Torisakia]

Just an unpopular opinion I suppose. Just how far the political discourse over the past few years has pushed me, in a way.

Here, a list of far more open and friendly places to move to with some ease.. https://nomadlist.com

Ooh, Portugal. I heard they have legal drugs there.

Not that I do drugs. Or do drugs that are known to humankind.

[Jedi Council]

Well dont be.

Until you've gone hungry or have been beaten for your sexuality or imprisoned for no reason, with no civil rights, you cannot claim that these place are better then the US.

"Don't be" as in "Don't be desperate to leave for a worse country" or "don't be" as in "don't be desperate to leave because there is no better country"? I'm assuming the former.

While I may not want to move to Saudi Arabia (the "living as a gay man in Saudi Arabia" part was simply to show my desperation to leave), I definitely no longer want anything to do with or associate myself with a country as embarrassing as the US. As I mentioned, I do plan to leave sometime within the next 2-3 years (hopefully sooner). I would like to go somewhere maybe in Europe or Asia, just depends on where the wind takes me.

Yes that is a perfectly reasonable stance.

If I were American, I would want to leave too.

But keep it at that, because to any other rational person, the idea of leaving the US to go to Saudi Arabia, or a comparably awful country, just makes you sound like a lunatic.

[Jedi Council]

Source?

source

Interesting, thank you

[Cisairse]

source

Interesting, thank you

This is a pretty good analysis, too.

[Torisakia]

"Don't be" as in "Don't be desperate to leave for a worse country" or "don't be" as in "don't be desperate to leave because there is no better country"? I'm assuming the former.

While I may not want to move to Saudi Arabia (the "living as a gay man in Saudi Arabia" part was simply to show my desperation to leave), I definitely no longer want anything to do with or associate myself with a country as embarrassing as the US. As I mentioned, I do plan to leave sometime within the next 2-3 years (hopefully sooner). I would like to go somewhere maybe in Europe or Asia, just depends on where the wind takes me.

Yes that is a perfectly reasonable stance.

If I were American, I would want to leave too.

But keep it at that, because to any other rational person, the idea of leaving the US to go to Saudi Arabia, or a comparably awful country, just makes you sound like a lunatic.

Rational people are hard to come by in my area nowadays anyway.

[Telconi]

Interesting, thank you

This is a pretty good analysis, too.

Why are you like this?

[Plzen]

But keep it at that, because to any other rational person, the idea of leaving the US to go to Saudi Arabia, or a comparably awful country, just makes you sound like a lunatic.

Seconded. When we say that the United States is an awful place to live, the unspoken qualifier is: by the standards of high-income democracies.

[Jedi Council]

Interesting, thank you

This is a pretty good analysis, too.

I swear I am looking forward to this whole election cycle ending if only to never have to see a single damn stick bug ever again.

[Torisakia]

But keep it at that, because to any other rational person, the idea of leaving the US to go to Saudi Arabia, or a comparably awful country, just makes you sound like a lunatic.

Seconded. When we say that the United States is an awful place to live, the unspoken qualifier is: by the standards of high-income democracies.

Basically a third-world country with a first-world hat on, imo (not literally, that's just my analogy).

[Picairn]

This is a pretty good analysis, too.

I call BS on that.This is the full story.

[Tarsonis]

Interesting, thank you

This is a pretty good analysis, too.

You mf, You used a different link so I got fooled AGAIN!!. You will rue the day you crossed Taronis B Chersterhofferson III.

[Jedi Council]

Seconded. When we say that the United States is an awful place to live, the unspoken qualifier is: by the standards of high-income democracies.

Basically a third-world country with a first-world hat on, imo.

Again no it's not.

You might not like it, you might hate living there, but its not some dystopia that is unlivable.

Have you ever been to a third world country and seen real poverty or suffering?

[Torisakia]

Basically a third-world country with a first-world hat on, imo.

Again no it's not.

You might not like it, you might hate living there, but its not some dystopia that is unlivable.

Have you ever been to a third world country and seen real poverty or suffering?

Sorry, I edited my post to clarify. I added that I didn't mean it literally, but it was just my analogy. Sorry for the confusion.

[Cisairse]

This is a pretty good analysis, too.

You mf, You used a different link so I got fooled AGAIN!!. You will rue the day you crossed Taronis B Chersterhofferson III.

This is a pretty good analysis, too.

I swear I am looking forward to this whole election cycle ending if only to never have to see a single damn stick bug ever again.

[Bombadil]

Seconded. When we say that the United States is an awful place to live, the unspoken qualifier is: by the standards of high-income democracies.

Basically a third-world country with a first-world hat on, imo (not literally, that's just my analogy).

I mean.. I was totally relaxed during this election simply by not watching the news at all. I was here, watching a map, .538 and running maths on an Excel program.

I was talking about this with a friend, that if you view America through the prism of the news it's all aflame and fighting, but as he noted people are having BBQs, taking their kids to soccer, most of America is perfectly charming and peaceful.

Increasingly I'm not too bothered with the news, it's a bit like my attitude to emails, if it's important someone will come and tell me.

[Rusozak]

[Odreria]

This is a pretty good analysis, too.

I call BS on that.This is the full story.

idk just click the link