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What's Your Opinion on The Election's Outcome

Mostly Good
94
21%
Good
84
19%
A Little of Both Good and Bad
125
28%
Meh
51
11%
Bad
46
10%
Very Bad
44
10%
 
Total votes : 444

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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:15 pm

A house here in Ohio with a ”Dump Trump sign” was shot up, apparently. Assuming it was a Trump supporter (which I sense is likely) seems like a few of them are not coping very well with the potential of “their guy” losing the election.
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Postby Constan-tinople » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:15 pm

Any update for the counting?

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Cedoria
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Cedoria » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:16 pm

TRUMP LEAD DOWN TO 64K IN PA!!

Sorry if it's already been mentioned by now:)
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Postby Telconi » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:16 pm

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Its Tel, I am saddened and enraged by most of his opinions.


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Postby Saiwania » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:16 pm

San Lumen wrote:And it should be the popular vote only. if candidate for your states governor got the most votes but lost the election because their opponent won more counties would you think that was fair?


Yes, that's perfectly fair if those are the established rules. The House of Representatives is determined by popular vote more than the Senate which is more of a statewide thing in that whoever wins should be representative of the most amount of that state as possible.

Representatives are voted in frequently and rule frequently. Whilst Senators are subject to the opposite where they're more deliberate and not subject to popular pressures to the same extent- having a guaranteed 6 years of term to be one of their state's prime leaders.
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Postby Heloin » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:16 pm

Ghost Land wrote:If Georgia flips, Pennsylvania stays red, and Arizona flips for Trump, the score would be 269-269 and then it would be up to the House of Representatives. I'd be willing to bet Trump would win in that event, given that the House has a Democrat majority.

What Trump needs to do if Georgia by some miracle stays red is flip Arizona and/or Nevada for him. If Georgia flips, he needs BOTH of those states. If Pennsylvania also flips, he doesn't have a prayer.

Think about this part for just a minute.

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Postby Luna Amore » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:16 pm

Cultural Posadism wrote:
Cisairse wrote:You'd think that if the Dems were committing widespread vote fraud like Trump claims they are, they'd have given themselves the Senate.

Remember when Hillary Clinton apparently won the popular vote only because she received millions of fake votes, but for some reason her party forgot to put those millions of votes in swing states?

Classic Democrats. Can't even cheat properly.
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Postby Kanadorika » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:16 pm

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We did some controlled burns but in late 2016 the weather was so wet we couldn't get anything to light up. 2017 brought massive rains, Oroville dam almost exploded, and the forests were ripe with new plant life.

Which then dies and burns by 2018.

The residents of Paradise and Magalia had a habit of concealing their homes with thick brush and trees to hide whatever illegal operations they were doing (Meth, Marijuana) and that only made things worse.

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Postby Cisairse » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:16 pm

Trump is within 0.1 points of beating Obama '08's popular vote
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:16 pm

Saiwania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And it should be the popular vote only. if candidate for your states governor got the most votes but lost the election because their opponent won more counties would you think that was fair?


Yes, that's perfectly fair if those are the established rules. The House of Representatives is determined by popular vote more than the Senate which is more of a statewide thing in that whoever wins should be representative of the most amount of that state as possible.

Representatives are voted in frequently and rule frequently. Whilst Senators are subject to the opposite where they're more deliberate and not subject to popular pressures to the same extent- having a guaranteed 6 years of term to be one of their state's prime leaders.

How would that be fair?

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Postby Kowani » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:17 pm

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Postby Myrth » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:17 pm

Jolthig wrote:Perhaps we may have trump out of the way, but we still got mr. Mitch to deal with


Trump set a precedent of governing by executive order to do a run-around on Congress. Biden could choose to do the same.

Alternatively, Biden could appoint two blue state Republican senators to his administration, where those states have a democratic governor that would appoint a democratic senator to replace them.
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Postby Alternamerica » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:17 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:A house here in Ohio with a ”Dump Trump sign” was shot up, apparently. Assuming it was a Trump supporter (which I sense is likely) seems like a few of them are not coping very well with the potential of “their guy” losing the election.


So much for rioting, looting, and attacking private property being a radical left thing
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:17 pm

Luna Amore wrote:
Cultural Posadism wrote:Remember when Hillary Clinton apparently won the popular vote only because she received millions of fake votes, but for some reason her party forgot to put those millions of votes in swing states?

Classic Democrats. Can't even cheat properly.


We forgot to drive the ballots out of Cali, dammit. I knew we forgot something.
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Nagakawa
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Postby Nagakawa » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:17 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:A house here in Ohio with a ”Dump Trump sign” was shot up, apparently. Assuming it was a Trump supporter (which I sense is likely) seems like a few of them are not coping very well with the potential of “their guy” losing the election.


Happy to see that the election is going smoothly and that the people are behaving in a manner befitting of a mature democracy.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:17 pm

Jolthig wrote:Perhaps we may have trump out of the way, but we still got mr. Mitch to deal with

Well that depends on georgia again. Both senate seats are going to a runoff
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Postby Ghost Land » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:17 pm

Heloin wrote:
Ghost Land wrote:If Georgia flips, Pennsylvania stays red, and Arizona flips for Trump, the score would be 269-269 and then it would be up to the House of Representatives. I'd be willing to bet Trump would win in that event, given that the House has a Democrat majority.

What Trump needs to do if Georgia by some miracle stays red is flip Arizona and/or Nevada for him. If Georgia flips, he needs BOTH of those states. If Pennsylvania also flips, he doesn't have a prayer.

Think about this part for just a minute.

I wrote that incorrectly. I'm fixing the initial post right now. Thank you for pointing out the error.
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Postby Jolthig » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:17 pm

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:17 pm

Myrth wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Which is based on the population of that particular state.


The minimum of 3 affords disproportionate influence to smaller states.


Increasing the number of House members would reduce that, without a Constitutional Amendment. The same minimum would apply (3 = 1 House + 2 Senate) but fewer states would have only 3, while bigger states would have lots more.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:17 pm

Ghost Land wrote:If Georgia flips, Pennsylvania stays red, and Arizona flips for Trump, the score would be 269-269 and then it would be up to the House of Representatives. I'd be willing to bet Trump would win in that event, given that the House has a Democrat majority.

What Trump needs to do if Georgia by some miracle stays red is flip Arizona and/or Nevada for him. If Georgia flips, he needs BOTH of those states. If Pennsylvania also flips, he doesn't have a prayer.

Biden is on track to win Pennsylvania as well. So I think its over for Trump.
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Postby Jedi Council » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:18 pm

Telconi wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Its Tel, I am saddened and enraged by most of his opinions.


Don't worry, the feeling's mutual.

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Postby Heloin » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:18 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Yes, that's perfectly fair if those are the established rules. The House of Representatives is determined by popular vote more than the Senate which is more of a statewide thing in that whoever wins should be representative of the most amount of that state as possible.

Representatives are voted in frequently and rule frequently. Whilst Senators are subject to the opposite where they're more deliberate and not subject to popular pressures to the same extent- having a guaranteed 6 years of term to be one of their state's prime leaders.

How would that be fair?

Since when has Sai cared about that?

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Postby Picairn » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:18 pm

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Alternamerica wrote:With Republicans abandoning Trump, Conservative judges refusing his lawsuits or threats of it, and the possibility of GA flipping, I bring you
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:18 pm

Myrth wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Perhaps we may have trump out of the way, but we still got mr. Mitch to deal with


Trump set a precedent of governing by executive order to do a run-around on Congress. Biden could choose to do the same.

Alternatively, Biden could appoint two blue state Republican senators to his administration, where those states have a democratic governor that would appoint a democratic senator to replace them.

That could happen but I doubt it. Collins would be one and Toomey could be another. Hes already said hes retiring in 2022.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:18 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:Classic Democrats. Can't even cheat properly.


We forgot to drive the ballots out of Cali, dammit. I knew we forgot something.

and into rural counties.

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