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2020 US General Election Thread XII: The End

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What's Your Opinion on The Election's Outcome

Mostly Good
94
21%
Good
84
19%
A Little of Both Good and Bad
125
28%
Meh
51
11%
Bad
46
10%
Very Bad
44
10%
 
Total votes : 444

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Nobel Hobos 2
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:38 pm

Telconi wrote:
Myrth wrote:
Don't forget how badly gerrymandered the House map is to the Republicans' advantage. 2020 census will allow a lot of those maps to be redrawn to be more favourable.


Or here in CA, more gerrymandered.


Don't you have a citizen committee to draw boundaries?

Actually I suspect anything fair at all looks gerrymandered to you.
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Postby Cisairse » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:38 pm

Dresderstan wrote:No update from Georgia in the past hour.

I think we're expecting results very soon.
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Great Algerstonia
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:38 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Maybe time for a Speaker who isn't a member of the House. Absurd I know, but I've always wanted that loophole used!

I nominate myself for speaker!

I second the roller coaster man's nomination!
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Postby Nakena » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:38 pm

Bombadil wrote:
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One America News Network (OANN) is an up and coming channel to watch. It is growing and has lots of potential as a sequel for Roger Ailes' vision.


Every time I see that acronym I think it's clearly the channel for onanism.


Their female stuff looks all a little too good and happy.

You know like the ladies that cults sending to you to join their Church.

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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:39 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Maybe time for a Speaker who isn't a member of the House. Absurd I know, but I've always wanted that loophole used!

I nominate myself for speaker!

Your transport secretary.

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Postby Cisairse » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:39 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cisairse wrote:I'm more concerned about the possibility of appropriations being unable to pass, thus us looking at a possible permanent government shutdown

and that's probubly going to hurt Republicans badly. That would harm absolutely everyone.

I don't give a shit about politics, this will cause lots of people to die
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Cultural Posadism
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:39 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Vote dumps 120 K votes entirely for former Vice President Joe Biden are impossible, not credible, assessed Hans von Spakovsky, manager of the Heritage Foundation’s Election Law Reform Initiative

A Few Excerpts:
Marlow asked about reports of drastic spikes in vote counts for Joe Biden in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

“If those reports are correct, I don’t understand it. The way you do counting is you simply count all of the ballots,” Von Spakovsky said. “You don’t divide. They’re not divided up between the candidates. So the [precinct] reporting that’s coming in ought to be reporting of the total vote count, regardless of who it’s for. So again, if it’s confirmed that there are these weird reports coming out of votes only for one candidate and not the other,
you’ve got to question, what exactly is going on?”

Andy Swan:
The only thing we did on Election Day was tell them how many votes they needed on Election Night.
https://twitter.com/AndySwan/status/132 ... ossible%2F

GMS: It really does sound very strange? 120,000 straight Biden votes reported? Andy Swan telling them how many votes they needed? Needed for what and why? Who agrees? Who disagrees?

Enough with your disinformation, GMS.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:39 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cisairse wrote:The Senate will be 49:48 at the start of the session

The Dems will only have a 2-seat majority in the House


Literally neither chamber of congress is going to be able to elect leadership positions

I want a 50-50 tie in the senate. Republicans would have to compromise to get anything done.

Or just obstruct everything and blame us
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:39 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:No update from Georgia in the past hour.

I think we're expecting results very soon.


9PM, I believe, but I could be thinking of another state altogether.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:39 pm

Cisairse wrote:The Senate will be 49:48 at the start of the session

The Dems will only have a 2-seat majority in the House


Literally neither chamber of congress is going to be able to elect leadership positions


I'm not seeing anything about the House anywhere. I still have 209-192 for the Democrats, I saw the tweet but they aren't saying where the other seats are.
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Postby Jedi Council » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:39 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Vote dumps 120 K votes entirely for former Vice President Joe Biden are impossible, not credible, assessed Hans von Spakovsky, manager of the Heritage Foundation’s Election Law Reform Initiative

A Few Excerpts:
Marlow asked about reports of drastic spikes in vote counts for Joe Biden in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

“If those reports are correct, I don’t understand it. The way you do counting is you simply count all of the ballots,” Von Spakovsky said. “You don’t divide. They’re not divided up between the candidates. So the [precinct] reporting that’s coming in ought to be reporting of the total vote count, regardless of who it’s for. So again, if it’s confirmed that there are these weird reports coming out of votes only for one candidate and not the other,
you’ve got to question, what exactly is going on?”

Andy Swan:
The only thing we did on Election Day was tell them how many votes they needed on Election Night.
https://twitter.com/AndySwan/status/132 ... ossible%2F

GMS: It really does sound very strange? 120,000 straight Biden votes reported? Andy Swan telling them how many votes they needed? Needed for what and why? Who agrees? Who disagrees?


Ah and here I was hoping GMS would keep his promise to accept the results
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:39 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:No update from Georgia in the past hour.

I think we're expecting results very soon.

Gwinnett and Clayton won’t release their votes until 11
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Postby Cordel One » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:39 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:----


The problem is your source being the Heritage Foundation.

That's also been debunked if I remember right.

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Nobel Hobos 2
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:39 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Maybe time for a Speaker who isn't a member of the House. Absurd I know, but I've always wanted that loophole used!

I nominate myself for speaker!


No. You talk too much. The House wouldn't get anything done. I nominate Barack Obama!
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:39 pm

Kowani wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I want a 50-50 tie in the senate. Republicans would have to compromise to get anything done.

Or just obstruct everything and blame us


I wonder which Mitch "Obama should literally never get to appoint a judge in his term" McConnell will pick.
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Great Algerstonia
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:40 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Vote dumps 120 K votes entirely for former Vice President Joe Biden are impossible, not credible, assessed Hans von Spakovsky, manager of the Heritage Foundation’s Election Law Reform Initiative

A Few Excerpts:
Marlow asked about reports of drastic spikes in vote counts for Joe Biden in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

“If those reports are correct, I don’t understand it. The way you do counting is you simply count all of the ballots,” Von Spakovsky said. “You don’t divide. They’re not divided up between the candidates. So the [precinct] reporting that’s coming in ought to be reporting of the total vote count, regardless of who it’s for. So again, if it’s confirmed that there are these weird reports coming out of votes only for one candidate and not the other,
you’ve got to question, what exactly is going on?”

Andy Swan:
The only thing we did on Election Day was tell them how many votes they needed on Election Night.
https://twitter.com/AndySwan/status/132 ... ossible%2F

GMS: It really does sound very strange? 120,000 straight Biden votes reported? Andy Swan telling them how many votes they needed? Needed for what and why? Who agrees? Who disagrees?

That was debunked. They put an extra zero in on accident.
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Postby Nagakawa » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:40 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Maybe time for a Speaker who isn't a member of the House. Absurd I know, but I've always wanted that loophole used!

I nominate myself for speaker!


I disagree. I would like to nominate Jeb! for Speaker.
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Cisairse
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Postby Cisairse » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:40 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Cisairse wrote:The Senate will be 49:48 at the start of the session

The Dems will only have a 2-seat majority in the House


Literally neither chamber of congress is going to be able to elect leadership positions


I'm not seeing anything about the House anywhere. I still have 209-192 for the Democrats, I saw the tweet but they aren't saying where the other seats are.

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The details of the above post are subject to leftist infighting.

I officially endorse Fivey Fox for president of the United States.

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Bombadil
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:40 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Vote dumps 120 K votes entirely for former Vice President Joe Biden are impossible, not credible, assessed Hans von Spakovsky, manager of the Heritage Foundation’s Election Law Reform Initiative

A Few Excerpts:
Marlow asked about reports of drastic spikes in vote counts for Joe Biden in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

“If those reports are correct, I don’t understand it. The way you do counting is you simply count all of the ballots,” Von Spakovsky said. “You don’t divide. They’re not divided up between the candidates. So the [precinct] reporting that’s coming in ought to be reporting of the total vote count, regardless of who it’s for. So again, if it’s confirmed that there are these weird reports coming out of votes only for one candidate and not the other,
you’ve got to question, what exactly is going on?”

Andy Swan:
The only thing we did on Election Day was tell them how many votes they needed on Election Night.
https://twitter.com/AndySwan/status/132 ... ossible%2F

GMS: It really does sound very strange? 120,000 straight Biden votes reported? Andy Swan telling them how many votes they needed? Needed for what and why? Who agrees? Who disagrees?



This one batch of votes in Philadelphia has been picked up by some people, including a commentator on Fox News, as possible evidence of fraud. It’s not. According to Edison Research, which aggregates vote data for ABC News and other networks (and is the source of the data in question), sometimes election officials and vote aggregators unintentionally enter vote updates one candidate at a time, rather than entering all candidates together. Other candidates’ votes are then included in a subsequent batch.

That appears to be what happened here, and in the next update from Philadelphia, Trump got about double the share of votes that he was getting in the other updates from there during that stretch of time.


It's entirely explainable.
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Postby Heloin » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:40 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I nominate myself for speaker!

Your transport secretary.

With San already with a position again I will state I am willing and ready to make that sacrifice.

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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:41 pm

Yeah, Trumpists are just pulling out totally baseless junk to try to prove fraud. Even going so far as to burn sample ballots to make it look like Democrats were burning votes.

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:41 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I nominate myself for speaker!

Your transport secretary.

Oh thats right.

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Cordel One
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Postby Cordel One » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:41 pm

Nagakawa wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I nominate myself for speaker!


I disagree. I would like to nominate Jeb! for Speaker.

I second this.

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Nobel Hobos 2
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:41 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Vote dumps 120 K votes entirely for former Vice President Joe Biden are impossible, not credible, assessed Hans von Spakovsky, manager of the Heritage Foundation’s Election Law Reform Initiative

A Few Excerpts:
Marlow asked about reports of drastic spikes in vote counts for Joe Biden in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

“If those reports are correct, I don’t understand it. The way you do counting is you simply count all of the ballots,” Von Spakovsky said. “You don’t divide. They’re not divided up between the candidates. So the [precinct] reporting that’s coming in ought to be reporting of the total vote count, regardless of who it’s for. So again, if it’s confirmed that there are these weird reports coming out of votes only for one candidate and not the other,
you’ve got to question, what exactly is going on?”

Andy Swan:
The only thing we did on Election Day was tell them how many votes they needed on Election Night.
https://twitter.com/AndySwan/status/132 ... ossible%2F

GMS: It really does sound very strange? 120,000 straight Biden votes reported? Andy Swan telling them how many votes they needed? Needed for what and why? Who agrees? Who disagrees?


Ah and here I was hoping GMS would keep his promise to accept the results


GMS will accept the results when Donald Trump accepts the results. You know that.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:41 pm

Heloin wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Your transport secretary.

With San already with a position again I will state I am willing and ready to make that sacrifice.

I second speaker Heloin.

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