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Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:06 pm

San Montalbano wrote:
Cordel One wrote:It takes luck to become a big deal on Twitter


Get Lucky?

it just sounds like your complaining but don't offer solutions.

Well we're not gonna end the status quo by voting, so...

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Postby San Montalbano » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:06 pm

Cordel One wrote:
San Montalbano wrote:
Get Lucky?

it just sounds like your complaining but don't offer solutions.

Well we're not gonna end the status quo by voting, so...


So? so what?
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
“We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty”
"We have the duty, not the right, to defend our territories if the state is absent"
“The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
Fascism is the modern states national and natural immune response to unchained capitalism and subversive Marxist ideology.

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Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:08 pm

San Montalbano wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Well we're not gonna end the status quo by voting, so...


So? so what?

I do what praxis I can and use my charisma to spread class consciousness. Maybe someday long after I've died we'll see some real proletarian movements.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:08 pm

Cordel One wrote:
San Montalbano wrote:
Get Lucky?

it just sounds like your complaining but don't offer solutions.

Well we're not gonna end the status quo by voting, so...

How is it going to change? Waving a magic wand or willing it to occur?

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Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:09 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Well we're not gonna end the status quo by voting, so...

How is it going to change? Waving a magic wand or willing it to occur?

Someday, proletarian revolution. The US isnt gonna be around forever.

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Postby San Montalbano » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:09 pm

Cordel One wrote:
San Montalbano wrote:
So? so what?

I do what praxis I can and use my charisma to spread class consciousness. Maybe someday long after I've died we'll see some real proletarian movements.


Well with the attitude you have that's never going to happen.
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
“We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty”
"We have the duty, not the right, to defend our territories if the state is absent"
“The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
Fascism is the modern states national and natural immune response to unchained capitalism and subversive Marxist ideology.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:10 pm

Cordel One wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How is it going to change? Waving a magic wand or willing it to occur?

Someday, proletarian revolution. The US isnt gonna be around forever.

go start this revolution of yours.

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Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:10 pm

San Montalbano wrote:
Cordel One wrote:I do what praxis I can and use my charisma to spread class consciousness. Maybe someday long after I've died we'll see some real proletarian movements.


Well with the attitude you have that's never going to happen.

Such a confident statement from someone with no idea who I am.

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Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:11 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Someday, proletarian revolution. The US isnt gonna be around forever.

go start this revolution of yours.

It's not mine.

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Postby San Montalbano » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:11 pm

Cordel One wrote:
San Montalbano wrote:
Well with the attitude you have that's never going to happen.

Such a confident statement from someone with no idea who I am.


It dosn't matter what you are if you are not willing to put in the work.
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
“We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty”
"We have the duty, not the right, to defend our territories if the state is absent"
“The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
Fascism is the modern states national and natural immune response to unchained capitalism and subversive Marxist ideology.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:12 pm

Cordel One wrote:
San Lumen wrote:go start this revolution of yours.

It's not mine.


Others therefore should do it? It's apparent you have no understanding of politics or economics and just like to complain because your preferred candidates don't always win.

Nothing changes by complaining and whining.
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Postby San Montalbano » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:12 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cordel One wrote:It's not mine.


Others therefore should do it? It's apparent you have no understanding of politics or economics and just like to complain because your preferred candidates don't always win.


all revolutions start with taking risks, he apparently is not willing to take that risk.
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
“We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty”
"We have the duty, not the right, to defend our territories if the state is absent"
“The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
Fascism is the modern states national and natural immune response to unchained capitalism and subversive Marxist ideology.

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Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:13 pm

San Montalbano wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Such a confident statement from someone with no idea who I am.


It dosn't matter what you are if you are not willing to put in the work.

I'm willing to put in work, but I'm not gonna bother doing useless things.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:14 pm

Cordel One wrote:
San Montalbano wrote:
It dosn't matter what you are if you are not willing to put in the work.

I'm willing to put in work, but I'm not gonna bother doing useless things.


with your attitude the revolutionary war would have never happened nor the civil rights movement.

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Postby San Montalbano » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cordel One wrote:I'm willing to put in work, but I'm not gonna bother doing useless things.


with your attitude the revolutionary war would have never happened nor the civil rights movement.


Nor the March on Rome
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
“We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty”
"We have the duty, not the right, to defend our territories if the state is absent"
“The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
Fascism is the modern states national and natural immune response to unchained capitalism and subversive Marxist ideology.

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Cordel One
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Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cordel One wrote:It's not mine.


Others therefore should do it? It's apparent you have no understanding of politics or economics and just like to complain because your preferred candidates don't always win.

Nothing changes by complaining and whining.

That's not how it works. I'm not so full of myself that I think I'm gonna be the American Subcomandante Marcos. It's not what I do, it's what we do.

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Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cordel One wrote:I'm willing to put in work, but I'm not gonna bother doing useless things.


with your attitude the revolutionary war would have never happened nor the civil rights movement.

Why, because I don't fancy myself as the next George Washington?

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:15 pm

Cordel One wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Others therefore should do it? It's apparent you have no understanding of politics or economics and just like to complain because your preferred candidates don't always win.

Nothing changes by complaining and whining.

That's not how it works. I'm not so full of myself that I think I'm gonna be the American Subcomandante Marcos. It's not what I do, it's what we do.

No one said that. It seems you'd just rather complain and whine about how unfair everything is as opposed to doing the work.

You show your ignorance when you call a city council position insignificant.

I didn't say you fancy yourself as the next Washington either.
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Postby San Montalbano » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:16 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cordel One wrote:That's not how it works. I'm not so full of myself that I think I'm gonna be the American Subcomandante Marcos. It's not what I do, it's what we do.

No one said that. It seems you'd just rather complain and whine about how unfair everything is as opposed to doing the work.

You show your ignorance when you call a city council position insignificant.


Kind of ungrateful actually too, I wish we had a spot on city councils.
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
“We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty”
"We have the duty, not the right, to defend our territories if the state is absent"
“The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
Fascism is the modern states national and natural immune response to unchained capitalism and subversive Marxist ideology.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:17 pm

San Montalbano wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No one said that. It seems you'd just rather complain and whine about how unfair everything is as opposed to doing the work.

You show your ignorance when you call a city council position insignificant.


Kind of ungrateful actually too, I wish we had a spot on city councils.

id love to serve on the city council.

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Cordel One
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Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:17 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cordel One wrote:That's not how it works. I'm not so full of myself that I think I'm gonna be the American Subcomandante Marcos. It's not what I do, it's what we do.

No one said that. It seems you'd just rather complain and whine about how unfair everything is as opposed to doing the work.

You show your ignorance when you call a city council position insignificant.

It is insignificant, and I am active politically. The thing is that I'm not deluded by party politics.

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Postby San Montalbano » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:17 pm

San Lumen wrote:
San Montalbano wrote:
Kind of ungrateful actually too, I wish we had a spot on city councils.

id love to serve on the city council.


same
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
“We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty”
"We have the duty, not the right, to defend our territories if the state is absent"
“The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
Fascism is the modern states national and natural immune response to unchained capitalism and subversive Marxist ideology.

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Cordel One
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Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:17 pm

San Lumen wrote:
San Montalbano wrote:
Kind of ungrateful actually too, I wish we had a spot on city councils.

id love to serve on the city council.

I wouldn't vote for you, but no matter what I do I'm almost certain you'll never be on a city council (though you're more likely to than me).
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Postby San Montalbano » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:18 pm

Cordel One wrote:
San Lumen wrote:id love to serve on the city council.

I wouldn't vote for you


Based on what you have told us, i don't think he/she would have to worry about your vote.
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
“We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty”
"We have the duty, not the right, to defend our territories if the state is absent"
“The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
Fascism is the modern states national and natural immune response to unchained capitalism and subversive Marxist ideology.

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:18 pm

Cordel One wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No one said that. It seems you'd just rather complain and whine about how unfair everything is as opposed to doing the work.

You show your ignorance when you call a city council position insignificant.

It is insignificant, and I am active politically. The thing is that I'm not deluded by party politics.

Do you know what the city council does or do you think only the president or other executive matters?

Cordel One wrote:
San Lumen wrote:id love to serve on the city council.

I wouldn't vote for you

Why because im not far left enough and because I think compromise is a good thing?

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