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2020 US General Election Thread XI: Is It Over Yet?

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Who Do You Anticipate Winning the 2020 Election and How?

Decisive Donald Trump Victory (Both Popular & Electoral Win)
39
8%
Pyrrhic Donald Trump Victory (Electoral Win/Popular Loss)
198
39%
Contingent Election (Electoral Tie, Vote Goes to House & Senate)
32
6%
Decisive Joe Biden Victory (Both Popular & Electoral Win)
208
41%
Pyrrhic Joe Biden Victory (Electoral Win/Popular Loss)
31
6%
 
Total votes : 508

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Rusozak
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Postby Rusozak » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:25 pm

Plzen wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:As far as I know, the US doesn't have a national ID so isn't that rather difficult?

The US really should have a national ID, but the American cultural resistance against the government doing things is extreme.


The irony being that the people crying voter fraud have been the ones railing against such an idea.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:25 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Keep thinking they're PST. I was literally just there, too.


DTS screws with you that way.

It's not daylight savings time (and Arizona I think refuses to do it or something my buddy was talking about that makes Arizona weird) I just tend to think Pacific time extends further east than it does.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:25 pm

Atheris wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
It's 2020, I wouldn't be too surprised if Godzilla rose and wiped out NY and NJ thus discounting their votes.

I wouldn't be surprised if Battlefield 4's War of 2020 actually happens.


2020 ought to be turned into a video game.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:25 pm

New haven america wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:
As far as I know, the US doesn't have a national ID so isn't that rather difficult?

It should have a national ID.

But 1/2 of the country is against the government doing things and such.


Half your country seems to think taxing the rich is too much regulation, but not allowing abortions is perfectly fine. How odd.
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Postby Odreria » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:25 pm

Cisairse wrote:Why am I seeing exactly 0 news outlets reporting the Maricopa ballot drop?

they're processing the 10,000 fake ballots I just mailed in.
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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:25 pm

Arizona is getting closer. I don’t like it.
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Postby Dylar » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:26 pm

Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:
Saiwania wrote:The states that don't require ID to vote shouldn't count such people. They need a Social Security Number and a picture ID like a driver's license, and for the signature to match.

...why would you need an ID to vote in the first place, exactly?

To make sure you are who you say you are? Isn't it obvious?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:26 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
DTS screws with you that way.

It's not daylight savings time (and Arizona I think refuses to do it or something my buddy was talking about that makes Arizona weird) I just tend to think Pacific time extends further east than it does.


Oh, right. AZ said FO to DST.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:26 pm

Ranoria wrote:
Plzen wrote:The US really should have a national ID, but the American cultural resistance against the government doing things is extreme.

Small gov’t for life

Bombadil wrote:
It's 2020, I wouldn't be too surprised if Godzilla rose and wiped out NY and NJ thus discounting their votes.

I can reassure you that The Donald pulling this off is next to impossible.


The fact you're caveating with 'next to' as opposed to simply 'impossible'.. well it's a sign of what 2020 has done to our heads.
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Postby Tyrassueb » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:26 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Atheris wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Battlefield 4's War of 2020 actually happens.


2020 ought to be turned into a video game.

Two difficulties - "Hard" and "Cthulhu Designed This Difficulty"
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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:26 pm

Cisairse wrote:Why am I seeing exactly 0 news outlets reporting the Maricopa ballot drop?

Anyone can tell me what happened? Captain?

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Postby Jedi Council » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:26 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
New haven america wrote:It should have a national ID.

But 1/2 of the country is against the government doing things and such.


Half your country seems to think taxing the rich is too much regulation, but not allowing abortions is perfectly fine. How odd.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:27 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
DTS screws with you that way.

It's not daylight savings time (and Arizona I think refuses to do it or something my buddy was talking about that makes Arizona weird) I just tend to think Pacific time extends further east than it does.

Yes Arizona doesn’t do DST. Which means that during the time everyone else does do DST it’s on PST otherwise it’s MST
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:27 pm

Tyrassueb wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
2020 ought to be turned into a video game.

Two difficulties - "Hard" and "Cthulhu Designed This Difficulty"


Yes, with the tutorial being as brutal as the hardest level.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:27 pm

Dylar wrote:
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:...why would you need an ID to vote in the first place, exactly?

To make sure you are who you say you are? Isn't it obvious?


Then it would behoove the US to make a national ID.
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Postby Cisairse » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:28 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Why am I seeing exactly 0 news outlets reporting the Maricopa ballot drop?

Because it hasn’t happened yet. It’s only 7pm in Phoenix

I'm literally seeing people everywhere on Twitter talking about the vote numbers that just released
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:28 pm

Resilient Acceleration wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Why am I seeing exactly 0 news outlets reporting the Maricopa ballot drop?

Anyone can tell me what happened? Captain?

Time zone. It’s still 7pm in AZ
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Postby New haven america » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:28 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
New haven america wrote:It should have a national ID.

But 1/2 of the country is against the government doing things and such.


Half your country seems to think taxing the rich is too much regulation, but not allowing abortions is perfectly fine. How odd.

Because 1/2 of the country is under the illusion that they'll be one of those $400K earners someday if they just work hard enough so they don't want any taxes on the rich to affect them (A belief that the rich have happily propagated), and they think banning abortion is fine because it's legalized murder (Keep in mind that most of them are for the death penalty and not wearing masks in public though).
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:28 pm

Ranoria wrote:
Plzen wrote:The US really should have a national ID, but the American cultural resistance against the government doing things is extreme.

Small gov’t for life

Bombadil wrote:
It's 2020, I wouldn't be too surprised if Godzilla rose and wiped out NY and NJ thus discounting their votes.

I can reassure you that The Donald pulling this off is next to impossible.


White flag. I was you in 2016. It’ll pass. Hope you get to feel better soon.
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Postby Dylar » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:28 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
Dylar wrote:To make sure you are who you say you are? Isn't it obvious?


Then it would behoove the US to make a national ID.

I mean, I don't really see why. A state-issued driver's license is enough, imo
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Postby Jedi Council » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:28 pm

Pima County in Arizona is also reporting they still have around 30,000 absentee ballots to count.

Pima is heavily Democratic so might offset any gains by Trump in Maricopa
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:28 pm

We just got a large batch of votes from Maricopa County, Arizona, favoring Trump, who is 2.8 points behind in the statewide vote there. The new Maricopa results went about 44,000 to Trump and 30,000 to Biden.

Trump still needs 59% of the rest of the votes to take it.. but again, it might not even matter.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:28 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:It's not daylight savings time (and Arizona I think refuses to do it or something my buddy was talking about that makes Arizona weird) I just tend to think Pacific time extends further east than it does.

Yes Arizona doesn’t do DST. Which means that during the time everyone else does do DST it’s on PST otherwise it’s MST

Considering the kind of daylight they get I can understand why they don't want to save any of it.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:28 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Because it hasn’t happened yet. It’s only 7pm in Phoenix

I'm literally seeing people everywhere on Twitter talking about the vote numbers that just released

Because vote numbers did get released.

Just not in the county people are worried about.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:28 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Resilient Acceleration wrote:Anyone can tell me what happened? Captain?

Time zone. It’s still 7pm in AZ


No, Therm, it released. The first batch was slated for 7pm in AZ and 9pm EST.
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