2020 US General Election Thread XI: Is It Over Yet?

[Odreria]

Yes and I really like Lin Manuel Miranda, but I dont think he should run for President.

Candace Owens is so unqualified for the job it hurts. Why cant the GOP find sensible, normal, professional people with some competency outside of offending people and calling attention to themselves?

like I said, Crenshaw is our next candidate probably. He’s awesome and while I like Ted Cruz just as much, Cruz just doesn’t come off as a strong candidate to me.

I will never vote for someone with such a vendetta against anarchist fascist communists.

[The Black Forrest]

like I said, Crenshaw is our next candidate probably. He’s awesome and while I like Ted Cruz just as much, Cruz just doesn’t come off as a strong candidate to me.

Nah my money is on Tucker Carlson

That would be funny. The guy who lost to Jon Stewart trying to be President.

[New haven america]

Yes and I really like Lin Manuel Miranda, but I dont think he should run for President.

Candace Owens is so unqualified for the job it hurts. Why cant the GOP find sensible, normal, professional people with some competency outside of offending people and calling attention to themselves?

like I said, Crenshaw is our next candidate probably. He’s awesome and while I like Ted Cruz just as much, Cruz just doesn’t come off as a strong candidate to me.

Please run Cruz, make it as easy as possible for the Dems to win 2024.

[Valrifell]

Yeah, we gotta wait for the full results to arrive before making any firm calls. There's likely to be litigation in any case.

Agreed. That's why I'm a bit hesitant to say that x won or y won. Not a smart thing for Trump to declare victory, or Biden for that matter, (thankfully he didn't, yet,) or Google treating genuinely leaning states the same as they're treating states where margin of victory is less than one percent.

Google is literally just coloring their map with who's currently leading, regardless of margin.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Oi vey, looks like we might see recounts.

Mama mia, looks like we might see recounts.

Phrase of exclamation, it appears according to the data presented before me that we may witness the recount of votes cast within swing states during the 2020 presidential election.

[Galloism]

Looks like California’s attempt to legalize racial discrimination is failing.

https://www.kcra.com/article/national-u ... g/34561805

[Aclion]

I really like her! I don’t think she has much(if any) political experience though, which would be worrisome. But yeah, there’s def support for her.


^to some of the Don. jr comments... yeah I won’t argue. Even as a conservative he’s annoying

Yes and I really like Lin Manuel Miranda, but I dont think he should run for President.

Candace Owens is so unqualified for the job it hurts. Why cant the GOP find sensible, normal, professional people with some competency outside of offending people and calling attention to themselves?

Candace Owens would make a fine vp for Nikki Haley

[Insaanistan]

My mom has forbidden my dad from using electronics until the elections are over because he was praying, shouting in English, Hausa and Arabic, intently watching the results, jumping around, etc.
But I don’t blame him: he personally doesn’t particularly feel like getting deported.

Is he here illegally? If not, then he has nothing to worry about.

If he isn't here legally, then he should be deported as is the law.

He is here legally, but Trump’s immigration policies have put him in danger of deportation. It’s not a black and white issue.

[Valrifell]

I believe the PA count resumes in an hour or so. That'll be fun.

When does the votes in NC and GA resume?

I don't think we know with GA since their delay was unexpected.

[Esalia]

Looks like California’s attempt to legalize racial discrimination is failing.

https://www.kcra.com/article/national-u ... g/34561805

Do you have any other link?

I can't seem to access this one.

[Atheris]

like I said, Crenshaw is our next candidate probably. He’s awesome and while I like Ted Cruz just as much, Cruz just doesn’t come off as a strong candidate to me.

I will never vote for someone with such a vendetta against anarchist fascist communists.

That's... oh, my.

That's the largest oxymoron I've ever seen.

Mama mia, looks like we might see recounts.

Phrase of exclamation, it appears according to the data presented before me that we may witness the recount of votes cast within swing states during the 2020 presidential election.

I am astonished - in my humble yet professional opinion, it is clear to me that some of the ballots cast towards one of the candidates of the Democrat, Republican, and Libertarian Parties in the United States of America may have to be declared null and void and subsequently recounted in order to gain an accurate view on votes cast during the MMXX United States of America Presidential Election between primarily Donald John Trump and Joseph Robinette Biden Jr..

[Valrifell]

Looks like California’s attempt to legalize racial discrimination is failing.

https://www.kcra.com/article/national-u ... g/34561805

Hush Gallo we're arguing about the horse race.

[Iwassoclose]

biden wins with 274 electoral votes

Where did the 4 came from? The current situation I'm aware of is projecting 270-268, with PA being a wild card.

update

have biden winning 290 to 248

[New haven america]

Prediction.

Recounts happen, Trump gets more vote, but not enough to give him any states.

Just so a few more people can have some heart attacks because 2020 ain't over yet.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I will never vote for someone with such a vendetta against anarchist fascist communists.

That's... oh, my.

That's the largest oxymoron I've ever seen.

He's a radical centrist.

[Stellar Colonies]

This is making me think of two decayed zombies struggling to pull themselves to the finish line.

It's just slow and oh so balanced.

[Thanatttynia]

Bloomberg: Who's giving to Trump and Biden?

I'm sure this must have been posted already, but this is pretty stark confirmation that the Democratic Party is the party of the managerial class.

Biden's top supporters were managers, teachers, lawyers, professors, consultants, engineers.

Trump's top supporters were business owners*, drivers, truckers, homemakers, construction workers, contractors.

*presumably small, bc the above chart of massive organisations is ALL BLUE but for the NYPD and part of the military

Would guess this will have been replicated by vote. The Republican Party's future is in the multiracial working class. Will they acknowledge it? It would be singularly stupid of them not to do so

[Valrifell]

Prediction.

Recounts happen, Trump gets more vote, but not enough to give him any states.

Just so a few more people can have some heart attacks because 2020 ain't over yet.

I'm going to have the heart of a 70 year old when all is said and done.

[Ifreann]

As a leftist, commie, and antifa guy, I promise you that anyone who claims we've defeated fascism will be kicked out of the club.

We've maybe removed one fascist from power, but fascism cannot be defeated so long as we live in a capitalist society, because when we live in a capitalist society there will always be people terrified of losing their power and privilege who will embrace fascism.

>trump
>fascist

Trump's a market neoliberal, not a fascist. He's very far from being a fascist.

He flirts with nationalists and he is one himself, though, but fascism is so much different than just "I think my country is better than every other one in the world".

Fascism in America in the new 10s and 20s is different from the fascism in Europe in the old 30s and 40s. This is to be expected, and is not evidence that Trumpism is not fascist. But if you do want a list of traits, Eco provides one in that essay. Features around which fascism can coagulate. Eco goes into more detail, but briefly:

1. The cult of tradition. A syncretistic belief that The Truth™ has already been revealed in the cultures of the past, and we can only learn to interpret it.
2. Rejection of modernism. The belief that the modern world is depraved and degenerate.
3. The cult of action for action's sake. Thinking is a form of emasculation, the intellectual world is not to be trusted, universities are a nest of reds.
4. Disagreement is treason. Modern, and modernist, intellectualism uses disagreement to improve knowledge, but syncretistic traditionalism cannot withstand analytical criticism.
5. Fear of difference. The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruder.
6. Appeal to a frustrated middle-class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups. Eco predicted that the fascism of tomorrow would find its audience in the new majority of former proletarians turned petty bourgeois.
7. Obsession with a plot. Followers must feel besieged, both from with and from without. Thus the common fascist targetting of Jews, who are present in almost every nation but who can be cast as outsiders.
8. The enemy must be too weak and too strong. Followers must be humiliated by the wealth and force of their enemies, but must also believe that the enemy can be overwhelmed.
9. Life is permanent warfare. There is no struggle for life, but life is lived for struggle. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy.
10. Popular elitism. Every citizen belongs to the best people of the world, the members of the party are the best among the citizens, every citizen can (or ought to) become a member of the party. But the citizens need a Leader, and the masses must be weak to have such a need. Each level of the hierarchy despises those below, and so there is a mass elitism.
11. Cult of death. Fascists crave a heroic death, the best reward for the heroic life they are educated to live. And since they are impatient to die, they frequently send others to their deaths.
12. Machismo. Permanent war and heroism are difficult games to play, so fascists shift their will to power to sexual matters, and disdain sexual liberation for women and uncommon sexual practices. But sex is a difficult game too, who would ever want to fuck a fascist, and so there is another shift to play with weapons in the very obvious substitute phallus sense.
13. Selective populism. Fascists condemn democratic governments as not representing the will of the people, but to fascists "The People" is a theatrical fiction, unrelated to the actual population of citizens and what they want and value. It is conceived as a monolithic entity expressing a Common Will, which is interpreted by the Leader. Eco predicted a TV or internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.
14. Newspeak. All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.

[Galloism]

Looks like California’s attempt to legalize racial discrimination is failing.

https://www.kcra.com/article/national-u ... g/34561805

Do you have any other link?

I can't seem to access this one.

Here you go:

https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_16,_Repeal_Proposition_209_Affirmative_Action_Amendment_(2020)

[Shofercia]

Agreed. That's why I'm a bit hesitant to say that x won or y won. Not a smart thing for Trump to declare victory, or Biden for that matter, (thankfully he didn't, yet,) or Google treating genuinely leaning states the same as they're treating states where margin of victory is less than one percent.

Google is literally just coloring their map with who's currently leading, regardless of margin.

Which is giving the false illusion that Wisconsin is as tightly contested as Pennsylvania - it's not. Wisconsin/Michigan/Nevada are super tight. Pennsylvania isn't. Is Google aware that sometimes it's ok to not highlight things?

[Insaanistan]

Olay, looks like we might see recounts.

Oi vey, looks like we might see recounts.

Āudhubillah, looks like we might see recounts.

[Odreria]

That's... oh, my.

That's the largest oxymoron I've ever seen.

He's a radical centrist.

You better be branding Crenshaw and not me with the c word

[New haven america]

Where did the 4 came from? The current situation I'm aware of is projecting 270-268, with PA being a wild card.

update

have biden winning 290 to 248

How?

[Jedi Council]

Yes and I really like Lin Manuel Miranda, but I dont think he should run for President.

Candace Owens is so unqualified for the job it hurts. Why cant the GOP find sensible, normal, professional people with some competency outside of offending people and calling attention to themselves?

Candace Owens would make a fine vp for Nikki Haley

Again, in what universe is Candace Owens qualified for national office? She's hardly qualified to be a Congresswoman