2020 US General Election Thread XI: Is It Over Yet?

by **Jedi Council** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:06 am

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Alright, Trump should try to flip Kalamazoo County and Wayne county, or at least poll enough there to get back the lead.

He cant try anything. The campaigns over.

It's all about votes now.

by **The New California Republic** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:06 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

I mean, people were claiming Biden victory in Virginia for hours while Trump had a substantial lead.

Note, "people", not "Biden".

by **New haven america** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:06 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Atheris wrote:I think Donny Jr. honestly is an idiot. He confused "India" and "Iran" and probably only put Liberia on his map because it sounds like "Liberal".

That, or he confused it with Libya, which wouldn't surprise me.

Don Jr. Be like "thanks for inviting me to China" when meeting Shinzo Abe.

Shinto Abe's not PM anymore.

by **Resilient Acceleration** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:06 am

Iwassoclose wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Nate Silver is that you?

biden wins with 274 electoral votes

Where did the 4 came from? The current situation I'm aware of is projecting 270-268, with PA being a wild card.

by **Aclion** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:06 am

Valrifell wrote:
Aclion wrote:While gloating non-stop about an 11th hour hail Mary that was supposed to be a landslide

It's historically weird for an incumbent to lose re-election, just remember that factoid.

Entirely in keeping with this year.

by **Thermodolia** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:07 am

Andsed wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:So New York Times has the vote count for Nevada at 86% with Biden on 588k and trump on 580k.

Politico has the count at 67% but the same numbers.

Someone is off but i dont know who.

The AP is reporting Nevada at 67% as well.

WaPo has NYT numbers

by **Atheris** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:07 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Alright, Trump should try to flip Kalamazoo County and Wayne county, or at least poll enough there to get back the lead.

Wayne County is like the black belt of Michigan. Trump ain't winning there even with Lil Wayne's endorsement.

What about Lil' Dicky?

by **The Archregimancy** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:07 am

Jedi Council wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Good lord am I reading this right? Did GMS just concede to Biden?

The God-Emperor has no clothes?

At least hes owning it; GMS has always stated he would concede to Biden if it was clear Trump had lost, I just never took him seriously.

I did.

While his posting style may sometimes be the posting equivalent of nails down a chalkboard, I also think he's fundamentally sincere and well-intentioned and means precisely what he says.

We may disagree with how he says it; but I have never seen any reason to doubt his sincerity.

by **Geneviev** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:07 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

Trumps an authoritarian who will try everything to take this away from Biden.

Let's hope not.

Atheris wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Greatly simplified. The Children of illegal immigrants born here. They are basically Americans and for the most part lack the culture of where they came from. Sending them back would be a hardship. For the most part they contribute, pay taxes and hope to get citizenship some day.

That's always confused me. Granted, I'm no expert in politics, but doesn't being born in the US automatically make you a citizen?

They're brought as children, not born here.

by **Thermodolia** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:07 am

Ranoria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Fuck it, I'll do it. I'm not eligible, but how hard could it possibly be?

Okay honestly, hear me out here. Run Arnold Schwarzenegger. Idk how he was as a governor, but I mean, you’d have enough stupid gym rats like me who would vote for him because we love him and BOOM, democrat in office.

Can’t he wasn’t born in the US

by **Andsed** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:07 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
I mean, people were claiming Biden victory in Virginia for hours while Trump had a substantial lead.

Note, "people", not "Biden".

Also it was largely a prediction based off projections, something that was done to several states(including red and blue ones) even before the votes started coming back. So its not really the same as what Trump is doing.

by **New haven america** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:07 am

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Alright, Trump should try to flip Kalamazoo County and Wayne county, or at least poll enough there to get back the lead.

That's not how this works.

by **Jedi Council** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:08 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:The God-Emperor has no clothes?

At least hes owning it; GMS has always stated he would concede to Biden if it was clear Trump had lost, I just never took him seriously.

I did.

While his posting style may sometimes be the posting equivalent of nails down a chalkboard, I also think he's fundamentally sincere and well-intentioned and means precisely what he says.

We may disagree with how he says it; but I have never seen any reason to doubt his sincerity.

Quite so, I am pleasantly surprised

by **Resilient Acceleration** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:08 am

Atheris wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh I hope those two do run. You will see democratic wins in both cases. Don Jr. is a bigger moron then his father and he lacks the ability to ignore his stupidity and continue talking.

If Ivanka runs, it will be the first time the womans vote will carry a candidate (the demo) to the WH. I have seen/read where many college educated professional women are offended by her.

I think Donny Jr. honestly is an idiot. He confused "India" and "Iran" and probably only put Liberia on his map because it sounds like "Liberal".

That, or he confused it with Libya, which wouldn't surprise me.

He also separated Kashmir from India, at a time where Trump is supposedly buddy-buddy with India. Honestly it's probably just ignorance, which is why there hasn't been any strong Indian reaction.

by **Nioo** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:09 am

Geneviev wrote:Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

That's like if someone was on a plane still flying and saying " I survived the plane crash" before any sign of a crash being present

by **New haven america** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:09 am

I'm calling it.

Since it's 2020 and only bad things can happen, imma say Biden's gonna lose because of....

Nevada.

by **Atheris** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:09 am

Nioo wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

That's like if someone was on a plane still flying and saying " I survived the plane crash" before any sign of a crash being present

Why did that make me think of how tired Samuel L. Jackson is tired of these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane?

by **The Black Forrest** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:10 am

Geneviev wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Greatly simplified. The Children of illegal immigrants born here. They are basically Americans and for the most part lack the culture of where they came from. Sending them back would be a hardship. For the most part they contribute, pay taxes and hope to get citizenship some day.

They're not born here. If they were, they would be citizens.

Opps you are right. Just woke up and haven’t had my coffee. Let me edit that.

by **Shofercia** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:10 am

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Some definite shenanigans going on in Michigan. At least it's not the most closely contested... well fuck!

Electoral Votes needed as per 270 to win:
Biden: 227
Trump: 213

Remaining States:
Pennsylvania - 20 (leans Trump)
North Carolina - 15 (leans Trump)
Georgia - 16 (leans Trump)
Alaska - 3 (leans Trump)
Arizona - 11 (leans Biden)

Remaining States where vote is less than one percent difference
Michigan: 16
Wisconsin: 10
Nevada: 6

Trump needs to win Michigan, or Wisconsin, or Nevada. Biden needs all three states to win. And Michigan was surefire for Trump, until certain ballots arrived... add to that the fact that Whitmer is one of America's least trusted governors... ufff.

Based on the margins in Wisconsin and Minnesota, I think Biden's going to win Michigan.

I'd give the edge in Pennsylvania to Trump, but Biden doesn't need that state to win.

If it's under one percent, it goes to an automatic recount. I wouldn't call any of those three states yet, and without them, no one has majority of electoral votes.

by **The Huskar Social Union** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:10 am

Michigan numbers are back to what i reported them as earlier, must have been a recount or something.

by **The Emerald Legion** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:10 am

Atheris wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Greatly simplified. The Children of illegal immigrants born here. They are basically Americans and for the most part lack the culture of where they came from. Sending them back would be a hardship. For the most part they contribute, pay taxes and hope to get citizenship some day.

That's always confused me. Granted, I'm no expert in politics, but doesn't being born in the US automatically make you a citizen?

That's not quite what a Dreamer is. But the answer is yes. Being born in the US makes you a citizen. The issue is what do you do when the parents are illegal immigrants and the child is a US citizen? In some cases what ends up happening is the kid gets yeeted into the foster care system because the USA decides being a citizen makes the kid theirs, and fuck the parents they're getting deported.

That obviously doesn't sit well with people.

by **Dresderstan** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:10 am

One thing of note, if the gap is too small in WI and MI, we're heading for recounts. Prepare for 2000 2.0.

by **Andsed** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:10 am

According to the AP Biden leads in MI with 2,524,385 to 2,508,592

by **Ranoria** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:10 am

Jedi Council wrote:
Ranoria wrote:Ivanka could run. Not Don Jr. I like them both but I’m certainly not a fan of them becoming presidential candidates. Crenshaw is up next, and everyone loves Crenshaw. There’s a niche for Candace Owens but she won’t be old enough next cycle.

Candace Owen's? Really?

I really like her! I don’t think she has much(if any) political experience though, which would be worrisome. But yeah, there’s def support for her.

^to some of the Don. jr comments... yeah I won’t argue. Even as a conservative he’s annoying

by **The Huskar Social Union** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:10 am

Andsed wrote:According to the AP Biden leads in MI with 2,524,385 to 2,508,592

Same on politico

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