2020 US General Election Thread XI: Is It Over Yet?

[Cedoria]

Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

Because he was premature as fuck and wants vote counting stopped in certain states.

Are you talking about his election speech or something else

[Andsed]

Michigan votes have changed a bit

Biden: 2,513,637
Trump: 2,504,132

Recount? Or some kind of system error?

This is what it was previously:

Michigan:

Joe Biden: 2,523,407 (49.4%)
Donald Trump: 2,507,880 (49.1%)

95% counted.

Maybe a recount? Trump might have tried to challenge it.

[Eukaryotic Cells]

Some definite shenanigans going on in Michigan. At least it's not the most closely contested... well fuck!

Electoral Votes needed as per 270 to win:
Biden: 227
Trump: 213

Remaining States:
Pennsylvania - 20 (leans Trump)
North Carolina - 15 (leans Trump)
Georgia - 16 (leans Trump)
Alaska - 3 (leans Trump)
Arizona - 11 (leans Biden)

Remaining States where vote is less than one percent difference
Michigan: 16
Wisconsin: 10
Nevada: 6

Trump needs to win Michigan, or Wisconsin, or Nevada. Biden needs all three states to win. And Michigan was surefire for Trump, until certain ballots arrived... add to that the fact that Whitmer is one of America's least trusted governors... ufff.

Based on the margins in Wisconsin and Minnesota, I think Biden's going to win Michigan.

I'd give the edge in Pennsylvania to Trump, but Biden doesn't need that state to win.

[Atheris]

True, I honestly predict an Ivanka or Don Jnr run soon after if he loses, assuming both aren’t in various legal trouble, and maybe even if they are,

Trumpism is not dead, but if it loses now it’s suffered a blow.

Oh I hope those two do run. You will see democratic wins in both cases. Don Jr. is a bigger moron then his father and he lacks the ability to ignore his stupidity and continue talking.

If Ivanka runs, it will be the first time the womans vote will carry a candidate (the demo) to the WH. I have seen/read where many college educated professional women are offended by her.

I think Donny Jr. honestly is an idiot. He confused "India" and "Iran" and probably only put Liberia on his map because it sounds like "Liberal".

That, or he confused it with Libya, which wouldn't surprise me.

[Geneviev]

Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

He told everyone he would.

Hopefully it doesn't end up tearing this country apart.

I hope. But I'm very worried.

Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

This is Trump, we're talking about.

He could've won like 5 states and he'd still declare victory.

That's not what he did in 2016. This is scary.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

biden 2020

i did the math

Nate Silver is that you?

Nate fool's gold

[New haven america]

Michigan votes have changed a bit

Biden: 2,513,637
Trump: 2,504,132

Recount? Or some kind of system error?

This is what it was previously:

Michigan:

Joe Biden: 2,523,407 (49.4%)
Donald Trump: 2,507,880 (49.1%)

95% counted.

Counting error, spoilage, shenanigans.

One of those 3.

[Cedoria]

This is what it was previously:

Maybe a recount? Trump might have tried to challenge it.

If he hasn’t yet, he soon will.

[The Huskar Social Union]

This is what it was previously:

Maybe a recount? Trump might have tried to challenge it.

Thats what im thinking, as i mentioned above there Biden has an additional 1k votes now.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

Alright, Trump should try to flip Kalamazoo County and Wayne county, or at least poll enough there to get back the lead.

[The Black Forrest]

ICE grabbed up and held my dreamer neighbor in custody for 5 months.

What's a dreamer?

Greatly simplified. The Children of illegal immigrants who were brought here. They are basically Americans and for the most part lack the culture of where they came from. Sending them back would be a hardship. For the most part they contribute, pay taxes and hope to get citizenship some day.

-edit-

Corrected mistake about being born here.

[Page]

As a leftist, commie, and antifa guy, I promise you that anyone who claims we've defeated fascism will be kicked out of the club.

We've maybe removed one fascist from power, but fascism cannot be defeated so long as we live in a capitalist society, because when we live in a capitalist society there will always be people terrified of losing their power and privilege who will embrace fascism.

>trump
>fascist

Trump's a market neoliberal, not a fascist. He's very far from being a fascist.

He flirts with nationalists and he is one himself, though, but fascism is so much different than just "I think my country is better than every other one in the world".

The thing people refuse to understand about fascism is that it is not a coherent ideology. It does not have any ultimate goal. Fascism is about more power and more control by any means necessary. Fascists morph into whatever lets them rise.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Oh I hope those two do run. You will see democratic wins in both cases. Don Jr. is a bigger moron then his father and he lacks the ability to ignore his stupidity and continue talking.

If Ivanka runs, it will be the first time the womans vote will carry a candidate (the demo) to the WH. I have seen/read where many college educated professional women are offended by her.

I think Donny Jr. honestly is an idiot. He confused "India" and "Iran" and probably only put Liberia on his map because it sounds like "Liberal".

That, or he confused it with Libya, which wouldn't surprise me.

Don Jr. Be like "thanks for inviting me to China" when meeting Shinzo Abe.

[Valrifell]

Some definite shenanigans going on in Michigan. At least it's not the most closely contested... well fuck!

Electoral Votes needed as per 270 to win:
Biden: 227
Trump: 213

Remaining States:
Pennsylvania - 20 (leans Trump)
North Carolina - 15 (leans Trump)
Georgia - 16 (leans Trump)
Alaska - 3 (leans Trump)
Arizona - 11 (leans Biden)

Remaining States where vote is less than one percent difference
Michigan: 16
Wisconsin: 10
Nevada: 6

Trump needs to win Michigan, or Wisconsin, or Nevada. Biden needs all three states to win. And Michigan was surefire for Trump, until certain ballots arrived... add to that the fact that Whitmer is one of America's least trusted governors... ufff.

Based on the margins in Wisconsin and Minnesota, I think Biden's going to win Michigan.

I'd give the edge in Pennsylvania to Trump, but Biden doesn't need that state to win.

Trump's lead will surely shrink in PA as the mail-in ballots are counted and reported (and the majority of the ballots left are mail-in). Whether or not that would be enough to tip the state is questionable, but that would be nice.

[The Emerald Legion]

Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

I mean, people were claiming Biden victory in Virginia for hours while Trump had a substantial lead.

[United States of Devonta]

Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

Trumps an authoritarian who will try everything to take this away from Biden.

[Dresderstan]

While gloating non-stop about an 11th hour hail Mary that was supposed to be a landslide

It's historically weird for an incumbent to lose re-election, just remember that factoid.

Last time the incumbent president lost was Bush Sr. in '92... think about that.

[Daves Computer]

Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

He told everyone he would.

Hopefully it doesn't end up tearing this country apart.

It will. That and the division between the two major parties. Inevitably, between the proud water gun wielding Trumpers and outraged Biden fans, there will be violence regardless of who wins.

[Cedoria]

He told everyone he would.

Hopefully it doesn't end up tearing this country apart.

I hope. But I'm very worried.

This is Trump, we're talking about.

He could've won like 5 states and he'd still declare victory.

That's not what he did in 2016. This is scary.

You’re right, in 2016 he won enough that he could actually legitimately declare victory. So far not the case here.

[Valrifell]

Alright, Trump should try to flip Kalamazoo County and Wayne county, or at least poll enough there to get back the lead.

It's out of his hands now.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

>trump
>fascist

Trump's a market neoliberal, not a fascist. He's very far from being a fascist.

He flirts with nationalists and he is one himself, though, but fascism is so much different than just "I think my country is better than every other one in the world".

The thing people refuse to understand about fascism is that it is not a coherent ideology. It does not have any ultimate goal. Fascism is about more power and more control by any means necessary. Fascists morph into whatever lets them rise.

Sounds like mass psychopathy.

[Geneviev]

What's a dreamer?

Greatly simplified. The Children of illegal immigrants born here. They are basically Americans and for the most part lack the culture of where they came from. Sending them back would be a hardship. For the most part they contribute, pay taxes and hope to get citizenship some day.

They're not born here. If they were, they would be citizens.

[Atheris]

What's a dreamer?

Greatly simplified. The Children of illegal immigrants born here. They are basically Americans and for the most part lack the culture of where they came from. Sending them back would be a hardship. For the most part they contribute, pay taxes and hope to get citizenship some day.

That's always confused me. Granted, I'm no expert in politics, but doesn't being born in the US automatically make you a citizen?

[Cedoria]

Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

Trumps an authoritarian who will try everything to take this away from Biden.

A lot of people will be pretty strongly moved to stop him when he tries that.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Alright, Trump should try to flip Kalamazoo County and Wayne county, or at least poll enough there to get back the lead.

Wayne County is like the black belt of Michigan. Trump ain't winning there even with Lil Wayne's endorsement.