2020 US General Election Thread XI: Is It Over Yet?

by **The Huskar Social Union** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:00 am

Michigan votes have changed a bit

Biden: 2,513,637
Trump: 2,504,132

Recount? Or some kind of system error?

by **Atheris** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:00 am

Page wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:You genuinely think they won't when Biden wins(yes, I've basically lost most hope for Trump, though some remains)? They will, trust me. Most will say they defeated fascism, that they are victorious, and eight years of Biden.

As a leftist, commie, and antifa guy, I promise you that anyone who claims we've defeated fascism will be kicked out of the club.

We've maybe removed one fascist from power, but fascism cannot be defeated so long as we live in a capitalist society, because when we live in a capitalist society there will always be people terrified of losing their power and privilege who will embrace fascism.

>trump
>fascist

Trump's a market neoliberal, not a fascist. He's very far from being a fascist.

He flirts with nationalists and he is one himself, though, but fascism is so much different than just "I think my country is better than every other one in the world".

Ranoria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Fuck it, I'll do it. I'm not eligible, but how hard could it possibly be?

Okay honestly, hear me out here. Run Arnold Schwarzenegger. Idk how he was as a governor, but I mean, you’d have enough stupid gym rats like me who would vote for him because we love him and BOOM, democrat in office.

I wish.

He sucked as governor apparently, but I want to see the election slogan "I'll be back" for his re-election campaign.

Also, "democrat"? Schwarzenegger was a Republican.

by **Odreria** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:01 am

New haven america wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
No, liberals are built different.

Biden-supporters will mention how they could've gloated but didn't because "we're the bigger people "

Not currently planning on it.

I always planned on dunking on people with insane brutality, switching sides is no great obstacle

by **Thermodolia** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:01 am

Valrifell wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The map in 2022 doesn’t look good for republicans in the senate and could flip

Unfortunately the odds are naturally stacked against the presidential incumbent's party. Ironically they'd have better chances of taking the Senate if Trump manages to secure re-election.

True but with a Republican controlled senate the democrats can shift blame to the senate and republicans

by **Shofercia** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:01 am

Some definite shenanigans going on in Michigan. At least it's not the most closely contested... well fuck!

Electoral Votes needed as per 270 to win:
Biden: 227
Trump: 213

Remaining States:
Pennsylvania - 20 (leans Trump)
North Carolina - 15 (leans Trump)
Georgia - 16 (leans Trump)
Alaska - 3 (leans Trump)
Arizona - 11 (leans Biden)

Remaining States where vote is less than one percent difference
Michigan: 16
Wisconsin: 10
Nevada: 6

Trump needs to win Michigan, or Wisconsin, or Nevada. Biden needs all three states to win. And Michigan was surefire for Trump, until certain ballots arrived... add to that the fact that Whitmer is one of America's least trusted governors... ufff.

by **The New California Republic** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:01 am

Ranoria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Fuck it, I'll do it. I'm not eligible, but how hard could it possibly be?

Okay honestly, hear me out here. Run Arnold Schwarzenegger. Idk how he was as a governor, but I mean, you’d have enough stupid gym rats like me who would vote for him because we love him and BOOM, democrat in office.

He can't be President, the rules don't allow it. Plus he is Republican.

by **Valrifell** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:01 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Michigan votes have changed a bit

Biden: 2,513,637
Trump: 2,504,132

Recount? Or some kind of system error?

They're not finished counting.

by **Geneviev** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:01 am

Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

by **Resilient Acceleration** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:01 am

Am waiting to see how Biden's foreign policy would play out. Surprisingly Trump has been very active in trying to court our country to America's sphere, returning the General Preference Agreement, and even granting visas to various generals (including the current defense minister) who were previously banned from entering the US due to cases of crimes against humanity.

by **The Huskar Social Union** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:02 am

Valrifell wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Michigan votes have changed a bit

Biden: 2,513,637
Trump: 2,504,132

Recount? Or some kind of system error?

They're not finished counting.

I guess, they took votes from both candidates, was just wondering.

by **Cedoria** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:02 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Cedoria wrote:True, I honestly predict an Ivanka or Don Jnr run soon after if he loses, assuming both aren’t in various legal trouble, and maybe even if they are,

Trumpism is not dead, but if it loses now it’s suffered a blow.

Oh I hope those two do run. You will see democratic wins in both cases. Don Jr. is a bigger moron then his father and he lacks the ability to ignore his stupidity and continue talking.

If Ivanka runs, it will be the first time the womans vote will carry a candidate (the demo) to the WH. I have seen/read where many college educated professional women are offended by her.

If saying moronic things regularly were a disqualified from public office, we wouldn’t be having this discussion over an election battle to remove Donald Trump Snr.

by **Vu Den Voc** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:02 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Is he here illegally? If not, then he has nothing to worry about.

If he isn't here legally, then he should be deported as is the law.

I’m sure even if he’s here legally he’ll still have things to worry about in this politically polarized country where a not so insignificant amount of people are very xenophobic.

Truth, Anyways lost of people are agingst immigrants and such had parents(or great grandparents) that technically by today's standards are illegal. America was built on immigrants, and there should be a way for dreamers, illegal immigrants, etc to become a citizens.

by **Valrifell** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:02 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
They're not finished counting.

I guess, they took votes from both candidates, was just wondering.

Oh I didn't notice that, then I don't know. Probably some error that was then corrected in the reporting.

by **Andsed** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:02 am

Valrifell wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Michigan votes have changed a bit

Biden: 2,513,637
Trump: 2,504,132

Recount? Or some kind of system error?

They're not finished counting.

Yeah but IIRC Biden was at around 523,000 before. So I dont know why he lost like 10k votes all of a sudden

by **The Huskar Social Union** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:02 am

Geneviev wrote:Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

Because he was premature as fuck and wants vote counting stopped in certain states.

by **Nioo** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:02 am

Politik

by **Eukaryotic Cells** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:02 am

Geneviev wrote:Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

He told everyone he would.

Hopefully it doesn't end up tearing this country apart.

by **Esalia** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:03 am

Geneviev wrote:Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

This is Trump, we're talking about.

He could've won like 5 states and he'd still declare victory.

by **Ranoria** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:03 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Cedoria wrote:True, I honestly predict an Ivanka or Don Jnr run soon after if he loses, assuming both aren’t in various legal trouble, and maybe even if they are,

Trumpism is not dead, but if it loses now it’s suffered a blow.

Oh I hope those two do run. You will see democratic wins in both cases. Don Jr. is a bigger moron then his father and he lacks the ability to ignore his stupidity and continue talking.

If Ivanka runs, it will be the first time the womans vote will carry a candidate (the demo) to the WH. I have seen/read where many college educated professional women are offended by her.

Ivanka could run. Not Don Jr. I like them both but I’m certainly not a fan of them becoming presidential candidates. Crenshaw is up next, and everyone loves Crenshaw. There’s a niche for Candace Owens but she won’t be old enough next cycle.

by **The Huskar Social Union** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:03 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Michigan votes have changed a bit

Biden: 2,513,637
Trump: 2,504,132

Recount? Or some kind of system error?

This is what it was previously:

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Michigan:

Joe Biden: 2,523,407 (49.4%)
Donald Trump: 2,507,880 (49.1%)

95% counted.

They have put Biden up another 1k on the site so i guess it was a recount or something.

by **Iwassoclose** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:03 am

Jedi Council wrote:
Iwassoclose wrote:biden 2020

i did the math

Nate Silver is that you?

biden wins with 274 electoral votes

by **Valrifell** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:03 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Trump already claimed victory, and votes are still being counted. Something seems wrong with that.

Because he was premature as fuck and wants vote counting stopped in certain states.

He probably and unironically 100% thought that if he declared victory, Biden would immediately concede and all counting would stop.

by **Greater Miami Shores** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:03 am

Iwassoclose wrote:biden 2020

i did the math

Too all of you: I did the math too, congratulations Joe. Please view:
viewtopic.php?p=37882381#p37882381
GMS.

by **Jedi Council** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:03 am

Ranoria wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh I hope those two do run. You will see democratic wins in both cases. Don Jr. is a bigger moron then his father and he lacks the ability to ignore his stupidity and continue talking.

If Ivanka runs, it will be the first time the womans vote will carry a candidate (the demo) to the WH. I have seen/read where many college educated professional women are offended by her.

Ivanka could run. Not Don Jr. I like them both but I’m certainly not a fan of them becoming presidential candidates. Crenshaw is up next, and everyone loves Crenshaw. There’s a niche for Candace Owens but she won’t be old enough next cycle.

Candace Owen's? Really?

by **Borderlands of Rojava** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:04 am

Jedi Council wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Good lord am I reading this right? Did GMS just concede to Biden?

The God-Emperor has no clothes?

At least hes owning it; GMS has always stated he would concede to Biden if it was clear Trump had lost, I just never took him seriously.

I will say that while I don't agree with GMS on much politically, he's a nice guy for a Trump supporter.

I really wish the election of 2016 didn't happen. I hate having half my community living on the other side of the metaphorical peace wall of mind.

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