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Who Do You Anticipate Winning the 2020 Election and How?

Decisive Donald Trump Victory (Both Popular & Electoral Win)
39
8%
Pyrrhic Donald Trump Victory (Electoral Win/Popular Loss)
198
39%
Contingent Election (Electoral Tie, Vote Goes to House & Senate)
32
6%
Decisive Joe Biden Victory (Both Popular & Electoral Win)
208
41%
Pyrrhic Joe Biden Victory (Electoral Win/Popular Loss)
31
6%
 
Total votes : 508

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Postby New haven america » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:25 am

Odreria wrote:Does trump have a chance in Nevada?

Lol no.

Literally 99% of the population lives in 2 counties and both are democrat.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:25 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Eukaryotic Cells wrote:Any reports of protests or violence so far, or is everyone in the country just waiting to see what happens?

Tbh there is very little to protest or be violent about, as it's on a knife edge.

I think protests are going to start when the legal battles get underway.

If SCOTUS ends up doing something like throwing it to Trump after Biden looks like he's winning, the country will explode.

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Postby Saiwania » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:26 am

Trump isn't anywhere close to losing until Nevada is at 90%+ and the gap is too wide to overcome. Still too close in Michigan.
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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:26 am

With Biden likely facing a spectacular landslide of 2 electoral vote, threatened by 4 years of not doing anything due to the Senate, won't this vindicate the left-wing faction of the Democratic Party? I can see AOC unseating Chuck Schumer in the 2022 NY Senate primary and fuel a leftist takeover, though whether this will be good or bad for the Dems is unknown.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:26 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
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I don't think any Democrat politician that had a shot at the 2020 election would be good for a 2024 run.

Bernie will probably be pushed out by the more right side of the party again, Biden's performance in the 2020 election means it would be risky for a 2024 run, and I don't think anyone else has what is needed to win in 2024 (especially if it's Trump going for round 3).

The Democrats might need to find someone new between now and 2024.


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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:26 am

Saiwania wrote:Trump isn't anywhere close to losing until Nevada is at 90%+ and the gap is too wide to overcome. Still too close in Michigan.

Yeah, we won't know for sure until all the votes are counted. Just gotta wait.

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Postby Valrifell » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:26 am

Resilient Acceleration wrote:With Biden set for a spectacular landslide of 2 electoral vote, threatened by 4 years of not doing anything due to the Senate, won't this vindicate the left-wing faction of the Democratic Party? I can see AOC unseating Chuck Schumer in the 2022 NY Senate primary and fuel a leftist takeover, though whether this will be good or bad for the Dems is unknown.


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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:27 am

Saiwania wrote:Trump isn't anywhere close to losing until Nevada is at 90%+ and the gap is too wide to overcome. Still too close in Michigan.

Stop jinxing, Saiwana.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:27 am

Look, if Biden pulls through we shouldn't beat ourselves/him/the establishment DNC too hard for unseating a sitting president, that doesn't normally happen.

(of course we should still beat them up, though)
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:27 am

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How is Perdue "barely hanging on?" He's ahead of Ossoff by 3.9%.

It is unlikely the Senate will flip regardless of who wins the Whitehouse.

Ga looks like both senators will be red.
The special election A Democrat candidate took plurality of votes but Republican candidates together claimed the majority of votes. So the runoff will likely be red as well.

The problem is that the republican candidate is hated by just about everyone in the state.
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Postby Picairn » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:28 am

Resilient Acceleration wrote:With Biden likely facing a spectacular landslide of 2 electoral vote, threatened by 4 years of not doing anything due to the Senate, won't this vindicate the left-wing faction of the Democratic Party? I can see AOC unseating Chuck Schumer in the 2022 NY Senate primary and fuel a leftist takeover, though whether this will be good or bad for the Dems is unknown.

Red states won't be happy with a radical takeover. If Democrats lose seats in red states then it may turn into a full blown Republican backlash.
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Postby Odreria » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:28 am

Resilient Acceleration wrote:With Biden likely facing a spectacular landslide of 2 electoral vote, threatened by 4 years of not doing anything due to the Senate, won't this vindicate the left-wing faction of the Democratic Party? I can see AOC unseating Chuck Schumer in the 2022 NY Senate primary and fuel a leftist takeover, though whether this will be good or bad for the Dems is unknown.

This result vindicates literally no one.
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Postby Esalia » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:28 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
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I don't think any Democrat politician that had a shot at the 2020 election would be good for a 2024 run.

Bernie will probably be pushed out by the more right side of the party again, Biden's performance in the 2020 election means it would be risky for a 2024 run, and I don't think anyone else has what is needed to win in 2024 (especially if it's Trump going for round 3).

The Democrats might need to find someone new between now and 2024.


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Honestly, could be possible.

I'm expecting that whoever the Democrats need in 2024 is someone relatively unknown in 2020, since none of the current candidates seem viable if we get Trump Round Three or Trump But Saner in 2024.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:28 am

Valrifell wrote:
Resilient Acceleration wrote:With Biden set for a spectacular landslide of 2 electoral vote, threatened by 4 years of not doing anything due to the Senate, won't this vindicate the left-wing faction of the Democratic Party? I can see AOC unseating Chuck Schumer in the 2022 NY Senate primary and fuel a leftist takeover, though whether this will be good or bad for the Dems is unknown.


It'll be good because I want it to be good, and I've never been disappointed once in my life hah.

The Dem leadership will just be reassured people like Biden will win them elections. At least in 2024 they'll lose to the republicans, who may or may not be lead by a now bald punished Trump.
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Postby Maineiacs » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:29 am

Valrifell wrote:
Resilient Acceleration wrote:With Biden set for a spectacular landslide of 2 electoral vote, threatened by 4 years of not doing anything due to the Senate, won't this vindicate the left-wing faction of the Democratic Party? I can see AOC unseating Chuck Schumer in the 2022 NY Senate primary and fuel a leftist takeover, though whether this will be good or bad for the Dems is unknown.


It'll be good because I want it to be good, and I've never been disappointed once in my life hah.



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Postby Ranoria » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:29 am

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Alright, my predictions for what happens if one of the candidates wins.

If Biden Wins
-The nation is first ravaged by democratic protests happening after today due to it looking like Trump won, then by republican ones after it turns out Biden won. His popularity falls to the high 40's.
-Biden serves one full term, and does not run in the 2024 Primaries. An establishment democrat is elected, possibly Warren or someone like her.
-Trump retires, but Trumpism remains. He likely does not run in 2024, and Ted Cruz or Pence become nominee.
-Warren wins in 2024.
If Trump Wins
-The nation is ravaged by democratic protests. Trumps approval rating somewhat climbs to the high 40's.
-He serves another term.
-Pence runs in 2024
-The electoral college is abolished in 2023.
-The Democrats decide the moderate wing failed them and actually embrace the policies of the radical left. Bernie is to old, so AOC is likely nominated.
-AOC wins in 2024.

As much as I love the idea of a Cruz presidency, Dan Crenshaw has the most momentum to run next right now. There’s a lot of love for Pence but I can’t see him winning the nomination in 2024.

And the rioting? I think we actually would’ve gotten it last night. To me this is looking more and more like a Biden victory. Last night displayed Republicans’ best chances of winning. So...hopefully no riots.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:30 am

So it's been about 8 hours since Trump's last tweet. He's definitely in talks with lawyers, who are probably telling him to STFU.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:30 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
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I don't think any Democrat politician that had a shot at the 2020 election would be good for a 2024 run.

Bernie will probably be pushed out by the more right side of the party again, Biden's performance in the 2020 election means it would be risky for a 2024 run, and I don't think anyone else has what is needed to win in 2024 (especially if it's Trump going for round 3).

The Democrats might need to find someone new between now and 2024.


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Postby Esalia » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:30 am

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Tbh there is very little to protest or be violent about, as it's on a knife edge.

I think protests are going to start when the legal battles get underway.

If SCOTUS ends up doing something like throwing it to Trump after Biden looks like he's winning, the country will explode.


Probably.

If it looks like one candidate is going to win and something fucky happens (e.g a recount, a SCOTUS ruling, etc) flips it to the other candidate, expect riots.
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Postby Picairn » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:31 am

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:So it's been able 8 hours since Trump's last tweet. He's definitely in talks with lawyers, who are probably telling him to STFU.

He's probably lamenting the loss of Michigan right now.
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Postby Maineiacs » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:31 am

Esalia wrote:
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Honestly, could be possible.

I'm expecting that whoever the Democrats need in 2024 is someone relatively unknown in 2020, since none of the current candidates seem viable if we get Trump Round Three or Trump But Saner in 2024.



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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:31 am

Ranoria wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Alright, my predictions for what happens if one of the candidates wins.

If Biden Wins
-The nation is first ravaged by democratic protests happening after today due to it looking like Trump won, then by republican ones after it turns out Biden won. His popularity falls to the high 40's.
-Biden serves one full term, and does not run in the 2024 Primaries. An establishment democrat is elected, possibly Warren or someone like her.
-Trump retires, but Trumpism remains. He likely does not run in 2024, and Ted Cruz or Pence become nominee.
-Warren wins in 2024.
If Trump Wins
-The nation is ravaged by democratic protests. Trumps approval rating somewhat climbs to the high 40's.
-He serves another term.
-Pence runs in 2024
-The electoral college is abolished in 2023.
-The Democrats decide the moderate wing failed them and actually embrace the policies of the radical left. Bernie is to old, so AOC is likely nominated.
-AOC wins in 2024.

As much as I love the idea of a Cruz presidency, Dan Crenshaw has the most momentum to run next right now. There’s a lot of love for Pence but I can’t see him winning the nomination in 2024.

And the rioting? I think we actually would’ve gotten it last night. To me this is looking more and more like a Biden victory. Last night displayed Republicans’ best chances of winning. So...hopefully no riots.

This guy believes in climate change AND had an eyepatch? I'm supporting the hell out of him in 2024 if Biden wins.
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Postby Andsed » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:31 am

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:So it's been able 8 hours since Trump's last tweet. He's definitely in talks with lawyers, who are probably telling him to STFU.

God I hope Trump just takes the loss like a mature adult. Challenging it is just going to inflame tensions which is the last thing we need right now.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:31 am

Resilient Acceleration wrote:With Biden likely facing a spectacular landslide of 2 electoral vote, threatened by 4 years of not doing anything due to the Senate, won't this vindicate the left-wing faction of the Democratic Party? I can see AOC unseating Chuck Schumer in the 2022 NY Senate primary and fuel a leftist takeover, though whether this will be good or bad for the Dems is unknown.

The map in 2022 doesn’t look good for republicans in the senate and could flip
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Postby Silvedania » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:32 am

MICHIGAN HAS BEEN FLIPPED!!!!!

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