NationStates

Alvecia wrote:I've looked up lucid dreaming, but honestly, it seems like a whole lot of effort.
I just day dream and regular dream instead.

Yeah, and I mean I know there are people who can do it naturally but honestly I just stick to the original purpose of sleeping: exerting as little effort possible.

Kasa Tkoth Sphere wrote:

Krezenel wrote:I guess, but they're two different things.

Your explanation wasn't a very convincing argument for that. If you could fill your OP with more detail and resources on it, then people won't wander into the thread and make the very reasonable assumption that it's just something ridiculous and made up.

It's more interesting than threads that amount to the same back and forths over and over again with slightly different window dressing ( titles ), tbh.

Krezenel wrote:

Travislavania wrote:i mean... imagining myself as a billionaire sportsman, is that reality shifting?

There is probably a reality where you are a billionaire, and you could go there.

And then there would be two of you in that reality.

I tried lucid dreaming for a while. I succeeded once, but it ended very quickly once I realized I was dreaming.

Many subsequent attempts were unsuccessful.

Not even gonna touch the 'reality shifting' part of the thread, maybe.

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:

Krezenel wrote:There is probably a reality where you are a billionaire, and you could go there.

And then there would be two of you in that reality.

Nope! It's just one of you. There are realities were there might be multiple of you, but that's a different one, since the main purpose of that reality is being a billionaire.

Oh! Now that's interesting. You're suggesting you can manifest a reality into existence? What is the procedural involved?

The realities are the current world, just with the altered change you scripted. There can be multiple changes (I think).

Fedel wrote:Oh! Now that's interesting. You're suggesting you can manifest a reality into existence? What is the procedural involved?

The reality is an existence, it's just an alternate one.

Travislavania wrote:

Albrenia wrote:Does the whole 'Quantum Suicide' thing count? An interesting concept, if one I'm most certainly not willing to literally bet my life on.

quantum suicide? what's that?

Basically, when you die you 'shift' into a reality where you're not dead. Basically making each one of us an action movie hero who will, in our own eyes, always survive shoot outs with dozens of bad guys because we just 'forget' and shift out of all the realities where we die.

It's most likely bunkum though, so please don't rush out to die to check if it's true.

Albrenia wrote:

Travislavania wrote:quantum suicide? what's that?

Basically, when you die you 'shift' into a reality where you're not dead. Basically making each one of us an action movie hero who will, in our own eyes, always survive shoot outs with dozens of bad guys because we just 'forget' and shift out of all the realities where we die.

It's most likely bunkum though, so please don't rush out to die to check if it's true.

Yea lol, you just don't have to die. When you die, you die in this reality, and you might not be dead in other realities.

Krezenel wrote:

Fedel wrote:Oh! Now that's interesting. You're suggesting you can manifest a reality into existence? What is the procedural involved?

The reality is an existence, it's just an alternate one.

Yes, but how is it achieved/manifested?

Albrenia wrote:

Travislavania wrote:quantum suicide? what's that?

Basically, when you die you 'shift' into a reality where you're not dead. Basically making each one of us an action movie hero who will, in our own eyes, always survive shoot outs with dozens of bad guys because we just 'forget' and shift out of all the realities where we die.

It's most likely bunkum though, so please don't rush out to die to check if it's true.

so they think they are invincible?

Fedel wrote:

Krezenel wrote:The reality is an existence, it's just an alternate one.

Yes, but how is it achieved/manifested?

The easiest explanation is that ou start by scripting the reality you want to visit, which I believe means you describe the reality. You then listen to a subliminal (any music with the script over it), and you usually shift during the change into sleep while your subconscious is most active.

Travislavania wrote:

Albrenia wrote:
Basically, when you die you 'shift' into a reality where you're not dead. Basically making each one of us an action movie hero who will, in our own eyes, always survive shoot outs with dozens of bad guys because we just 'forget' and shift out of all the realities where we die.

It's most likely bunkum though, so please don't rush out to die to check if it's true.

so they think they are invincible?

Yes but they don't have any memory of their previous existence so they can't be sure.

Krezenel wrote:

Fedel wrote:
Yes, but how is it achieved/manifested?

The easiest explanation is that ou start by scripting the reality you want to visit, which I believe means you describe the reality. You then listen to a subliminal (any music with the script over it), and you usually shift during the change into sleep while your subconscious is most active.

Huh. Will I remember living in the previous reality if I do it?

Krezenel wrote:

Fedel wrote:
Yes, but how is it achieved/manifested?

The easiest explanation is that ou start by scripting the reality you want to visit, which I believe means you describe the reality. You then listen to a subliminal (any music with the script over it), and you usually shift during the change into sleep while your subconscious is most active.

Which is influencing what dream you have.

Travislavania wrote:

Albrenia wrote:
Basically, when you die you 'shift' into a reality where you're not dead. Basically making each one of us an action movie hero who will, in our own eyes, always survive shoot outs with dozens of bad guys because we just 'forget' and shift out of all the realities where we die.

It's most likely bunkum though, so please don't rush out to die to check if it's true.

so they think they are invincible?

At least until they encounter true certain death in which they die in all realities.

One could argue that outlandish scenarios make true certain death impossible, but its' an inherently weird thought experiment so I dunno.

Fedel wrote:

Krezenel wrote:The easiest explanation is that ou start by scripting the reality you want to visit, which I believe means you describe the reality. You then listen to a subliminal (any music with the script over it), and you usually shift during the change into sleep while your subconscious is most active.

Huh. Will I remember living in the previous reality if I do it?

I think so?
You have the memories of the person you are in the alt reality, but I know you can shift back to the original reality you shifted from

i sometimes imagine being a roman soldier listening https://youtu.be/hKRUPYrAQoE
maybe i'm just childish i dunno

Stellar Colonies wrote:

Krezenel wrote:The easiest explanation is that ou start by scripting the reality you want to visit, which I believe means you describe the reality. You then listen to a subliminal (any music with the script over it), and you usually shift during the change into sleep while your subconscious is most active.

Which is influencing what dream you have.

I'd assume your mind

Krezenel wrote:

Fedel wrote:
Huh. Will I remember living in the previous reality if I do it?

I think so?
You have the memories of the person you are in the alt reality, but I know you can shift back to the original reality you shifted from

Sounds like a good deal. I'll give it a try.

Fedel wrote:

Krezenel wrote:I think so?
You have the memories of the person you are in the alt reality, but I know you can shift back to the original reality you shifted from

Sounds like a good deal. I'll give it a try.

Yea

For those trying reality shifting, I'd suggest this guide https://vocal.media/futurism/how-to-shi ... ed-reality

Krezenel wrote:For those trying reality shifting, use this guide https://vocal.media/futurism/how-to-shi ... ed-reality

Thank you friend.

Fedel wrote:

Krezenel wrote:For those trying reality shifting, use this guide https://vocal.media/futurism/how-to-shi ... ed-reality

Thank you friend.

Np!