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Bala Mantre
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Which Governmental Ideology Is The Best?

Postby Bala Mantre » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:11 pm

From the beginning of the modern man to this day, humans have created countless ideologies and facts and produced leaders and traitors.
My ideological belief is Constitutional Monarch Euro Socialism.
Whats your guys? Which one is correct?
Are you gonna answer the question that stands so old against time?
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Postby Sanghyeok » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:22 pm

The answer to your question changes based on time and material conditions.
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Postby Nuroblav » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:23 pm

Did somebody say...governmental?
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Postby The Holy Therns » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:24 pm

We haven't found it yet.
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Postby Bala Mantre » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:24 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:The answer to your question changes based on time and material conditions.

And it seems that Democracy is becoming like the water bed.
It was popular before and is now losing its consumers
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Punished UMN
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Postby Punished UMN » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:25 pm

Bala Mantre wrote:From the beginning of the modern man to this day, humans have created countless ideologies and facts and produced leaders and traitors.
My ideological belief is Constitutional Monarch Euro Socialism.
Whats your guys? Which one is correct?
Are you gonna answer the question that stands so old against time?

>Constitutional Monarch Euro Socialism
Bruh stop stealing my shit
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Postby Sanghyeok » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:27 pm

Nuroblav wrote:Did somebody say...governmental?

Hello? Yes, anarchists are stealing my government.
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Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Postby The Holy Therns » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:31 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
Bala Mantre wrote:From the beginning of the modern man to this day, humans have created countless ideologies and facts and produced leaders and traitors.
My ideological belief is Constitutional Monarch Euro Socialism.
Whats your guys? Which one is correct?
Are you gonna answer the question that stands so old against time?

>Constitutional Monarch Euro Socialism
Bruh stop stealing my shit


Y'know, I could do without the monarch. Over here we kinda forget we have one until someone reminds us how much we pay for them.
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Postby Punished UMN » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:32 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:>Constitutional Monarch Euro Socialism
Bruh stop stealing my shit


Y'know, I could do without the monarch. Over here we kinda forget we have one until someone reminds us how much we pay for them.

When I say constitutional monarchy, I mean a monarch as executive in a constitutional system, to be more clear.
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Postby Nuroblav » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:35 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
Nuroblav wrote:Did somebody say...governmental?

Hello? Yes, anarchists are stealing my government.

Ok here's your government tin back.

Total rating: 4/10 - nice spice to it, but perhaps a bit too much for my liking. Does not work well as pizza topping.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:35 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
Y'know, I could do without the monarch. Over here we kinda forget we have one until someone reminds us how much we pay for them.

When I say constitutional monarchy, I mean a monarch as executive in a constitutional system, to be more clear.


I don't want anyone with hereditary power.
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Postby Punished UMN » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:36 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:When I say constitutional monarchy, I mean a monarch as executive in a constitutional system, to be more clear.


I don't want anyone with hereditary power.

I don't really think how someone gets power is particularly relevant as long as they wield it justly.
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Postby Travislavania » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:38 pm

communism :)
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby -Astoria- » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:38 pm

Bala Mantre wrote:From the beginning of the modern man to this day, humans have created countless ideologies and facts and produced leaders and traitors.
My ideological belief is Constitutional Monarch Euro Socialism.
Whats your guys? Which one is correct?
Are you gonna answer the question that stands so old against time?

>constitutional monarchy
>socialism

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Postby Sanghyeok » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:39 pm

-Astoria- wrote:
Bala Mantre wrote:From the beginning of the modern man to this day, humans have created countless ideologies and facts and produced leaders and traitors.
My ideological belief is Constitutional Monarch Euro Socialism.
Whats your guys? Which one is correct?
Are you gonna answer the question that stands so old against time?

>constitutional monarchy
>socialism

que.jpg


Well, those arguing in favor would argue the importance is class hierarchy rather than other hierarchies....
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Postby The Giant Space Wyrm » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:40 pm

Personally, I don't think any single ideology is actually correct or exists in a modern government.

In truth, a Government must be a hybrid of all relevant ideologies if it wants to succeed. I'm not exactly a fan of Socialists or Communists, but America's refusal to utilize some of the ideas that these ideologies propose is stifling, to say the least.

For example Universal Healthcare.

We can afford to spend trillions of dollars on our military but Giant Space Wyrm forbid we give everyone equal access to a Doctor.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:41 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
I don't want anyone with hereditary power.

I don't really think how someone gets power is particularly relevant as long as they wield it justly.


Whereas I very much think it is relevant and given we have a hereditary monarch here, I'm thankful he's utterly powerless.

But I still would like to be rid of it.
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Postby Punished UMN » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:42 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:I don't really think how someone gets power is particularly relevant as long as they wield it justly.


Whereas I very much think it is relevant and given we have a hereditary monarch here, I'm thankful he's utterly powerless.

But I still would like to be rid of it.

Why is it relevant whether someone inherits power or receives it by election?
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Postby Cordel One » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:42 pm

What makes you thing I want a government beyond a vague collective of workers' councils?

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Postby Bala Mantre » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:43 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
-Astoria- wrote:>constitutional monarchy
>socialism

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Well, those arguing in favor would argue the importance is class hierarchy rather than other hierarchies....

I did read this amazing book in which it said, "Democracy dies in thunderous applause."
And if we imput a monarch, it gives some one for the people to rally behind and democracy stays a little longer and we dont see something like Hungary happen
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Postby The Giant Space Wyrm » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:44 pm

Cordel One wrote:What makes you thing I want a government beyond a vague collective of workers' councils?

Cordel we aren't a Tribal Society anymore.

Edit: That is also still a form of government.
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Postby Cameroi » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:47 pm

none of them.
all any of them are is excuses not to do what is logical, considerate and right,
because ooh we can't do that, that would be too much like that other ideology that's supposed to be all mean bad and unhappy.

best ideology is to put real people, places and even things, ahead of anyoftheaboveisms.

infrastructure that serves everyone regardless of social or economic status while respecting and preserving the diversity of the natural environment.
logic in the service of consideration is what it takes to avoid causing needless harm, and that is the only true morality.

there are no 'sides', only forms of behavior; those which are more considerate and those which are not.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:50 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
Whereas I very much think it is relevant and given we have a hereditary monarch here, I'm thankful he's utterly powerless.

But I still would like to be rid of it.

Why is it relevant whether someone inherits power or receives it by election?


If you get power because your dad had power, your claim to power is utterly meaningless. You did nothing for it and proved nothing about your ability to justify it. A ruler is accountable to the people. If the people do not elect them, they do not deserve rulership. Monarchs are functionally useless.
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Postby Punished UMN » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:53 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:Why is it relevant whether someone inherits power or receives it by election?


If you get power because your dad had power, your claim to power is utterly meaningless. You did nothing for it and proved nothing about your ability to justify it. A ruler is accountable to the people. If the people do not elect them, they do not deserve rulership. Monarchs are functionally useless.

These are all premises, but they aren't reasons for it to be true. The people should have a say over how they are ruled, but they shouldn't decide everything.
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Postby Kuuj » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:59 pm

secular, globalist Libertarian Socialism, with a strong focus on education, automation of labor, and the pursuit of scientific and technological advancement. The people in charge should not only be highly intelligent and educated, but they should be truly committed towards working for the benefit of all mankind.
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