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Postby Arcturus Novus » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:30 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:It gives me some comfort to think Judaism has it the most right, even if I'm not exactly a good adherent. I like the idea of one all-encompassing deity who has made Himself known to so many people in so many different ways, whose followers strive to improve and prepare the world for the day when He welcomes them all into an eternal peace. It's at least partly escapism for me, admittedly, but in days like this it's hard to not want an escape, y'know?


I respect Judaism very much. It shares much in common with Islam.
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Likewise, there's a lot I admire about Islam, both in its scripture and its cultural impact on art and literature. Salaam aleikum.
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Postby Nilokeras » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:30 am

Viewing any one religion as being more 'correct' than others is ultimately an aesthetic judgement, not an assessment of ultimate truth. The question is meaningless.

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Postby Kowani » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:31 am

Well they can't all be right.
Perhaps they are all wrong.

For myself, I do not believe the existence of a god is possible.
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Postby Travislavania » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:32 am

Baloo Kingdom wrote:
Travislavania wrote:but he causes plagues, viruses ,disasters? if god truly loves everyone then would this happen?

No, we cause plagues, viruses, and disasters as a result of our sin. God is like a parent, they'll let you get yourself in trouble, but they'll warn you of the consequences.


i mean "natural disasters" why wouldnt god reveal himself to the world? send jesus 2.0, justify himself, everyone will convert to christianity, religion wars will end.
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Postby Empirical Switzerland » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:33 am

Arcturus Novus wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
I respect Judaism very much. It shares much in common with Islam.
Shalom Aleichem.

Likewise, there's a lot I admire about Islam, both in its scripture and its cultural impact on art and literature. Salaam aleikum.

I personally don't have the best feelings about Islam.
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Postby Untecna » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:34 am

If Science was a religion, that would be my choice.
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Postby Graccia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:35 am

You know, I respect every single religion and respect everyone's beliefs. But I do think that Islam is the correct religion.
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Postby Travislavania » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:35 am

Untecna wrote:If Science was a religion, that would be my choice.

i meann scientology exists... but that's a whole different thing
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Postby Empirical Switzerland » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:35 am

Graccia wrote:You know, I respect every single religion and respect everyone's beliefs. But I do think that Islam is the correct religion.

I must respectfully disagree.
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Postby Badjuristan » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:35 am

Empirical Switzerland wrote:I'm a Christian, and many other religions seem either interesting or bad.
I dislike some religions, which I won't say, but I still feel like a God would love everybody, regardless of what they do, and that is the Christian God.

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Postby Saralonia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:36 am

Although I am agnostic if a religion were to be correct and I had to guess I would say none, but rather that every religion thought by humanity is correct when it comes to deities, to me there could perfectly be both a Christian God and protestant God along with forgotten gods of old religions that all rule in cooperation and balance which might give a justification to the apparent randomness of our world and how the unlikely to most happens either way trough action which to me an agnostic means that multiple gods that represent the same thing exist and are in competition to each other but can cooperate if I had to choose a single religion then I would prefer for either the modern interpretation of the Christian God or maybe from Islam or even the both of them.
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:37 am

There is a story of Mullah Nasruddin that goes:
I was in a village, when one day, all the dogs died.
“Oh no!” said the villagers. They came to me for help.”How will we hunt for meat? Why did this happen? What did we do?” they asked. “Allah’s plan.” I said. Upset, they went to their homes. The next day, all the roosters died. “How will we know when to wake up?” They asked me for wisdom again. “God’s plan.” I told them. They left grumbling. The next day, it rained, and all the fire wood went damp. They came to me again. “How will we keep warm?” they asked. “It’s Allah’s plan.” I told them. “We knew you’d say that! We’re not going to ask you for advice any more!” The next early morning, when all others were asleep, I heard horses approaching. Then I heard voices. “We’ve sure had a great day pillaging.” said one. “Indeed.” said the other. “But it looks like our luck has run out. The sun is rising. Where are the crowing roosters? Where are the barking dogs? Where are the fires? This village must be abandoned. Let’s keep moving.” And they left. Later, the other awoke and looked at me angrily. “It’s the Mullah.” they said. “Come to talk to us of God’s plan, have you?” I shook my head solemnly. “If only you knew.” I said.
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:37 am

Empirical Switzerland wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:Likewise, there's a lot I admire about Islam, both in its scripture and its cultural impact on art and literature. Salaam aleikum.

I personally don't have the best feelings about Islam.


Why is that?
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:38 am

Empirical Switzerland wrote:
Graccia wrote:You know, I respect every single religion and respect everyone's beliefs. But I do think that Islam is the correct religion.

I must respectfully disagree.

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mine, clearly :p
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:38 am

An-Tanwir wrote:mine, clearly :p

I already said that. :lol2:
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Postby Empirical Switzerland » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:39 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Empirical Switzerland wrote:I personally don't have the best feelings about Islam.


Why is that?

The parts that say how it's okay to steal women (and do very bad things to them) and if I am correct it says to kill people who don't believe in Allah. I may be misinformed however.
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Postby Schniel » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:39 am

Nilokeras wrote:Viewing any one religion as being more 'correct' than others is ultimately an aesthetic judgement, not an assessment of ultimate truth. The question is meaningless.

Very correct.

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Postby The Gold Mines » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:40 am

No religion is correct
Each religion has it truths and lies, but there is no “right” religion

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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:42 am

Empirical Switzerland wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Why is that?

The parts that say how it's okay to steal women (and do very bad things to them) and if I am correct it says to kill people who don't believe in Allah. I may be misinformed however.


Uh, no. Doesn’t say you can do that at all.
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:43 am

Empirical Switzerland wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Why is that?

The parts that say how it's okay to steal women (and do very bad things to them) and if I am correct it says to kill people who don't believe in Allah. I may be misinformed however.

You are misinformed my friend (https://quran.com/18/29?translations=84 ... 8,95,19,22 and verse 24:33)
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:43 am

Travislavania wrote:
Empirical Switzerland wrote:I'm a Christian, and many other religions seem either interesting or bad.
I dislike some religions, which I won't say, but I still feel like a God would love everybody, regardless of what they do, and that is the Christian God.

but he causes plagues, viruses ,disasters? if god truly loves everyone then would this happen?

I have a couple views on this. For starters, G-d made an imperfect world intentionally. I like to think that we're part of His plan of tikkun olam - repairing the world. Helping others overcome adversities like poverty, disease, bigotry, in order to come together peacefully.

However, I don't agree with the notion that these hardships are meant to make us holier or to strengthen our faith in the Lord. I think it's perfectly healthy to have one's disagreements with how He runs things, and it's not like that's an uncommon sentiment within Judaism - even if you ignore the whole book of Job, there's plenty of examples. Israel literally means "struggles with G-d" in Hebrew. I think the struggles we are given are not because we're supposed to endure hardship and to not relent in our beliefs. I think they're here to remind us that we have the tools to make things better. We can't let G-d do all the work.
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Postby Empirical Switzerland » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:43 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Empirical Switzerland wrote:The parts that say how it's okay to steal women (and do very bad things to them) and if I am correct it says to kill people who don't believe in Allah. I may be misinformed however.


Uh, no. Doesn’t say you can do that at all.

I remember reading a direct quote from it and it was basically thanking Allah for letting them steal and again, do very innapropriate terrible things, to women.
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Postby Empirical Switzerland » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:44 am

I also feel that the part where women have to wear a hijab is wrong, along with the polygamy.
But that's just how I feel.
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