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Postby Disgraces » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:35 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
The Gold Mines wrote:What the heck?

I don't really have a name for my religion, so for now we'll use omnism.

Basically, it hinges on the fact all gods are real. Christian gods, roman gods, Indian gods, alien gods. The most important god, the one who influences the other ones, is the one most people believe in, which as of now is thought to be the Christian god. Obviously, Christianity has Satan, so now there is a divide, with the morally just gods rallying to the God, morally evil gods rallying to Satan, and everything else existing as a chaotic, everchanging third side. The multiverse is where these gods live. It contains 100 Trillion universe of varying sizes ranging from 0-dimsional dots to 8-dimensions OOOOOOOGHLAOOOOOOOOOOOOGHLAYOOOOOOOOOOOOOGHLAYOOO- And the multiverse itself is a 9 dimensional bubble. At any given moment Heaven is at the top and Hell at the bottom. People don't go to hell for being atheist, and probably not for masturbating or being homosexuals or eating meat on a Friday or anything that doesn't harm someone else, according to some form of trial. Now, they shouldn't be able to die in Heaven or hell, hut if they do, they usually go to the double version of that. And a double version exists outside the multiverse. Beneath heaven and hell, the dimensions collapse, and revert to either a four dimensional state like our universe or another one. For our entire universe is a subatomic particle in a larger multiverse. If a dream I had years ago is correct, it is an electron in a childs birthday cake, but that's likely not true. There are many levels of this, but at them top is the Inner Omniverse. It contains the final levels of the multiverses. But there's more. There's more omniverses, like an "infinite" multiverse(which is actually just a loop) a shadow realm, and so on. And they are all in the Outer Omniverse, the sum of everything. Now, not every possibility exists at the same time. Some possibilities are made by time travel or universe being reborn. And if you're wondering what's at the bottom of the omniversal ladder, probably true elementary particles.

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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:36 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:I’m myself. I sent myself to tell my mom she would give birth to me and I would be my son. Then I preached worshipping me and died. Then I came back because me who is also not me brought me back. Me who is not me sits next to my throne on his own thrown but there’s also only one throne.

It doesn't make sense if you, as I said, view God as a great man in the sky throwing down thunderbolts, but it does make sense if you think of God as an ousia.


God is man? Therefore God is mortal and not worthy of worship, no?

Indeed the real God is above man, and none are equal to him.
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Postby Nuroblav » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:37 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:I don't really have a name for my religion, so for now we'll use omnism.

Basically, it hinges on the fact all gods are real. Christian gods, roman gods, Indian gods, alien gods. The most important god, the one who influences the other ones, is the one most people believe in, which as of now is thought to be the Christian god. Obviously, Christianity has Satan, so now there is a divide, with the morally just gods rallying to the God, morally evil gods rallying to Satan, and everything else existing as a chaotic, everchanging third side. The multiverse is where these gods live. It contains 100 Trillion universe of varying sizes ranging from 0-dimsional dots to 8-dimensions OOOOOOOGHLAOOOOOOOOOOOOGHLAYOOOOOOOOOOOOOGHLAYOOO- And the multiverse itself is a 9 dimensional bubble. At any given moment Heaven is at the top and Hell at the bottom. People don't go to hell for being atheist, and probably not for masturbating or being homosexuals or eating meat on a Friday or anything that doesn't harm someone else, according to some form of trial. Now, they shouldn't be able to die in Heaven or hell, hut if they do, they usually go to the double version of that. And a double version exists outside the multiverse. Beneath heaven and hell, the dimensions collapse, and revert to either a four dimensional state like our universe or another one. For our entire universe is a subatomic particle in a larger multiverse. If a dream I had years ago is correct, it is an electron in a childs birthday cake, but that's likely not true. There are many levels of this, but at them top is the Inner Omniverse. It contains the final levels of the multiverses. But there's more. There's more omniverses, like an "infinite" multiverse(which is actually just a loop) a shadow realm, and so on. And they are all in the Outer Omniverse, the sum of everything. Now, not every possibility exists at the same time. Some possibilities are made by time travel or universe being reborn. And if you're wondering what's at the bottom of the omniversal ladder, probably true elementary particles.

Yeah the US is rather complicated to describe. ;)
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Postby Punished UMN » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:37 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:It doesn't make sense if you, as I said, view God as a great man in the sky throwing down thunderbolts, but it does make sense if you think of God as an ousia.


God is man? Therefore God is mortal and not worthy of worship, no?

Indeed the real God is above man, and none are equal to him.

Yes, God is man. No, God is not mortal.

I could go into more detail, but I'm not sure how relevant the most esoteric aspects of Christian theology are.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:38 pm

Nuroblav wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:I don't really have a name for my religion, so for now we'll use omnism.

Basically, it hinges on the fact all gods are real. Christian gods, roman gods, Indian gods, alien gods. The most important god, the one who influences the other ones, is the one most people believe in, which as of now is thought to be the Christian god. Obviously, Christianity has Satan, so now there is a divide, with the morally just gods rallying to the God, morally evil gods rallying to Satan, and everything else existing as a chaotic, everchanging third side. The multiverse is where these gods live. It contains 100 Trillion universe of varying sizes ranging from 0-dimsional dots to 8-dimensions OOOOOOOGHLAOOOOOOOOOOOOGHLAYOOOOOOOOOOOOOGHLAYOOO- And the multiverse itself is a 9 dimensional bubble. At any given moment Heaven is at the top and Hell at the bottom. People don't go to hell for being atheist, and probably not for masturbating or being homosexuals or eating meat on a Friday or anything that doesn't harm someone else, according to some form of trial. Now, they shouldn't be able to die in Heaven or hell, hut if they do, they usually go to the double version of that. And a double version exists outside the multiverse. Beneath heaven and hell, the dimensions collapse, and revert to either a four dimensional state like our universe or another one. For our entire universe is a subatomic particle in a larger multiverse. If a dream I had years ago is correct, it is an electron in a childs birthday cake, but that's likely not true. There are many levels of this, but at them top is the Inner Omniverse. It contains the final levels of the multiverses. But there's more. There's more omniverses, like an "infinite" multiverse(which is actually just a loop) a shadow realm, and so on. And they are all in the Outer Omniverse, the sum of everything. Now, not every possibility exists at the same time. Some possibilities are made by time travel or universe being reborn. And if you're wondering what's at the bottom of the omniversal ladder, probably true elementary particles.

Yeah the US is rather complicated to describe. ;)


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Postby Grimmsland » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:38 pm

Wouldn't it be something if this was finally answered in NSG. This forum would go down in history! Lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. :clap:

The closest thing I can describe myself as instinctively (intuitively!?) knowing is so far best described as a Panentheism. Pandeism could have an involvement. From my understanding of the definition of Pandeism it is basically that the Creator shattered and everything which exists originally came from this shattering. Kind of like the theory of a big bang. These aren't religions though. So just ignore my post. Just wanted to share. :)

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Postby The Gold Mines » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:39 pm


Agreed. Idk what I just read

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:40 pm

The Gold Mines wrote:

Agreed. Idk what I just read

I mean, Christianity is really complicated too if you think about it.
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Postby Ricksolot » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:41 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:What is logically impossible about the Christian God?

I’m myself. I sent myself to tell my mom she would give birth to me and I would be my son. Then I preached worshipping me and died. Then I came back because me who is also not me brought me back. Me who is not me sits next to my throne on his own thrown but there’s also only one throne.


I am a member of Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We do not believe in the Trinity. We believe that We have a Heavenly Father and his Son Jesus Christ. And their messenger the Holy Ghost. We believe they are all one in purpose and preside as the God head.

They are three separate beings, and the Holy Ghost is one of Gods Children who was given that job.
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:41 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
God is man? Therefore God is mortal and not worthy of worship, no?

Indeed the real God is above man, and none are equal to him.

Yes, God is man. No, God is not mortal.

I could go into more detail, but I'm not sure how relevant the most esoteric aspects of Christian theology are.


If God is a man, then he is mortal. Therefore, he shouldn’t be worshipped.
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Postby Renitalia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:42 pm

Im going to go have a religious panic attack now

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Postby The Gold Mines » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:42 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
The Gold Mines wrote:Agreed. Idk what I just read

I mean, Christianity is really complicated too if you think about it.

Yeah, sure
But not as complicated as that

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Postby Grimmsland » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:42 pm

Kowani wrote:Well they can't all be right.
Perhaps they are all wrong.

For myself, I do not believe the existence of a god is possible.


Possibly.
Possibly.

I myself do not believe the non-existence of a Creator is possible. The theorizing of this stuff fascinates me. It is my favorite thought subject.

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:43 pm

The Gold Mines wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:I mean, Christianity is really complicated too if you think about it.

Yeah, sure
But not as complicated as that

It's literally just the fact existence is a giant matryoshka doll and every god is real, led by the most popular god in that specific multiverse. That's basically it.
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Postby Punished UMN » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:44 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:Yes, God is man. No, God is not mortal.

I could go into more detail, but I'm not sure how relevant the most esoteric aspects of Christian theology are.


If God is a man, then he is mortal. Therefore, he shouldn’t be worshipped.

Christ is a God-Man, that is, he is the natures of man and God united in hypostases. I could go more into it but I don't think it would be particularly helpful to post obscure translated texts from Athanasius of Alexandria.
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Postby The Gold Mines » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:45 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
The Gold Mines wrote:Yeah, sure
But not as complicated as that

It's literally just the fact existence is a giant matryoshka doll and every god is real, led by the most popular god in that specific multiverse. That's basically it.

Ohh...sure, not hard to understand or anything

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Postby Daves Computer » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:46 pm

Scientology is correct, obviously.

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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:46 pm

Daves Computer wrote:Scientology is correct, obviously.

No.
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Postby Renitalia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:48 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Daves Computer wrote:Scientology is correct, obviously.

No.

ummm... idk if im right but... i think that was sarcasm

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:48 pm

The Gold Mines wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:It's literally just the fact existence is a giant matryoshka doll and every god is real, led by the most popular god in that specific multiverse. That's basically it.

Ohh...sure, not hard to understand or anything

What's so hard to understand about our multiverse being in an electron or quark somewhere between the Inner Omniverse and elementary particles?
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:49 pm

Renitalia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:No.

ummm... idk if im right but... i think that was sarcasm


Oh, it almost certainly was. I still just can’t stand to see that statement.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:49 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
The Gold Mines wrote:Ohh...sure, not hard to understand or anything

What's so hard to understand about our multiverse being in an electron or quark somewhere between the Inner Omniverse and elementary particles?


Everything.
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Postby The Gold Mines » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:50 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:What's so hard to understand about our multiverse being in an electron or quark somewhere between the Inner Omniverse and elementary particles?


Everything.

Yeah...

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:50 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:What's so hard to understand about our multiverse being in an electron or quark somewhere between the Inner Omniverse and elementary particles?


Everything.

Alright, bomb me with questions. I can make time.
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Postby Disgraces » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:51 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
The Gold Mines wrote:Ohh...sure, not hard to understand or anything

What's so hard to understand about our multiverse being in an electron or quark somewhere between the Inner Omniverse and elementary particles?

It's not hard to understand, it's just ridiculous.

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