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The French Commie Republic
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we can all agree that communism is the best system

Postby The French Commie Republic » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:43 am

communism allows for sharing so that the people won't definitely starve to death am i right fellow commies?
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Postby Golgorna » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:45 am

USSR *is communist*
also USSR *fails within 100 years*

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Postby South Cayriya » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:47 am

The French Commie Republic wrote:communism allows for sharing so that the people won't definitely starve to death am i right fellow commies?

yea

its better as a socialist democracy tho
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Postby Disgraces » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:49 am

Golgorna wrote:USSR *is communist*
also USSR *fails within 100 years*

The USSR was state socialist.
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Postby An-Tanwir » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:52 am

Golgorna wrote:USSR *is communist*
also USSR *fails within 100 years*

yes, they implemented a system and then collapsed 100 years later because the system was bad. There were no power struggles, coups, poor decisions, or foreign interference throughout the latter half of the 20th century. Nuance is propaganda, obviously.
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Postby Golgorna » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:53 am

Disgraces wrote:
Golgorna wrote:USSR *is communist*
also USSR *fails within 100 years*

The USSR was state socialist.


if by "state socialist" you mean the state ran business instead of private people, which it did, then that's still communism.

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Postby Golgorna » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:54 am

An-Tanwir wrote:
Golgorna wrote:USSR *is communist*
also USSR *fails within 100 years*

yes, they implemented a system and then collapsed 100 years later because the system was bad. There were no power struggles, coups, poor decisions, or foreign interference throughout the latter half of the 20th century. Nuance is propaganda, obviously.


that was a joke, but yes, the USSR was poorly run, which contributed the most to its collapse.

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Postby Ikazia » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:54 am

...Communism (well, technically scientific socialism) isn't about sharing, it's about changing the mode of production from one based on profit to one based on the satisfaction of needs. It's about making sure that basic needs are prioritized, and ensuring that wealth created from production goes towards improving the general welfare of the people, instead of just being collected by a business owner. Don't want to get into a debate about socialist states or whatever, I just want to say that there's a lot more to Marxism than "everyone share!"

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Postby Disgraces » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:55 am

Golgorna wrote:
Disgraces wrote:The USSR was state socialist.


if by "state socialist" you mean the state ran business instead of private people, which it did, then that's still communism.

Wrong.
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Postby North Acren » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:57 am

As an idea its wonderful

In reality, there hasn't been a fully communist state that doesn't suffer from some form of problems
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Postby Golgorna » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:57 am

Disgraces wrote:
Golgorna wrote:
if by "state socialist" you mean the state ran business instead of private people, which it did, then that's still communism.

Wrong.


please, explain why i'm wrong. and either way, the USSR was communist.
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Postby An-Tanwir » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:58 am

Golgorna wrote:
An-Tanwir wrote:yes, they implemented a system and then collapsed 100 years later because the system was bad. There were no power struggles, coups, poor decisions, or foreign interference throughout the latter half of the 20th century. Nuance is propaganda, obviously.


that was a joke, but yes, the USSR was poorly run, which contributed the most to its collapse.

Have you investigated how and why it was poorly run?
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Postby Norastan » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:58 am

The French Commie Republic wrote:communism allows for sharing so that the people won't definitely starve to death am i right fellow commies?

Say that to the victims of Holodomor.

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Postby Confederated South Germany » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:58 am

Communism is an utopia, marx didn't think about the fact humans wouldn't work in his ideal world, however, communism would be good if it was able to work.

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Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:59 am

Due to the fact that this is obviously a joke I’ll just ignore this.
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Postby North Japan » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:59 am

Yes... no, because that is not all communism is about.

Also the problem with the communist utopia is human behaviour.
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Postby Albionist Great Britain » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:59 am

No.

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Postby Disgraces » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:01 am

Golgorna wrote:
Disgraces wrote:Wrong.


please, explain why i'm wrong.

Communism is the social ownership of the means of production and the lack of social classes and a state. State socialism isn't communism.
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Postby Syddanmark » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:01 am

The French Commie Republic wrote:communism allows for sharing so that the people won't definitely starve to death am i right fellow commies?

did you mean this as a joke

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Postby Ikazia » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:02 am

Confederated South Germany wrote:Communism is an utopia, marx didn't think about the fact humans wouldn't work in his ideal world, however, communism would be good if it was able to work.


No offense, but that is, like, the classic "works on paper" criticism of Marxism that communists laugh at. Its a pretty broad and generic response that doesn't have much real though put into it.

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Postby Golgorna » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:02 am

An-Tanwir wrote:
Golgorna wrote:
that was a joke, but yes, the USSR was poorly run, which contributed the most to its collapse.

Have you investigated how and why it was poorly run?


the government was more concerned with the military, meaning it didn't use its otherwise massive economy for rebuilding after the second world war. also, due to Stalin's purges and 5 year plans, famines were frequent during the early years of the soviet union.

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Postby Confederated South Germany » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:02 am

Disgraces wrote:
Golgorna wrote:
please, explain why i'm wrong.

Communism is the social ownership of the means of production and the lack of social classes and a state. State socialism isn't communism.

Yes true, but even though that, it's impossible to achieve thanks to the fact that humans are... well, humans

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Postby Golgorna » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:04 am

Disgraces wrote:
Golgorna wrote:
please, explain why i'm wrong.

Communism is the social ownership of the means of production and the lack of social classes and a state. State socialism isn't communism.


thank you, but also explain how state socialism works please. and i also searched for it, the USSR was run by a communist government and the economy was wholeheartedly Marxist communism in ideology.
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Postby Ikazia » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:04 am

Syddanmark wrote:
The French Commie Republic wrote:communism allows for sharing so that the people won't definitely starve to death am i right fellow commies?

did you mean this as a joke


I'm 100% sure he meant it as a joke. Not a very witty or clever one, but a joke nonetheless.

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