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Postby Kernen » Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:13 pm

Arlenton wrote:
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I understand the rationale but they feel a little to Stalinish for my taste

I mean, I'd get it if it was for catching a kidnapper or something. Not for something that IMO shouldn't even be illegal.

No-knock raids, while extremely effective, create far more issues than they solve when the cops are wrong. They'd be better off risking the loss of some evidence for the benefits to the community.

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Arlenton wrote:I'd put middle of the night raids in the same category as no knock raids.


To be fair, they had announced themselves. Announced themselves with a battering ram. Though, to my knowledge, either the usage of a battering ram or the violent destruction of the door was purposefully absent from the report on the raid.


That is insufficient legal notice of the entry.
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Postby Diahon » Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:57 pm

this is what happens when those in power fear no repercussions, not from the state that employs their asses, not from the families of their victims, and not from the scandalized and brutalized people they serve death to and protect each other from

this sort of shit need not even have a basis in bigotry -- you only need deeply ingrained training issues, enough loose cannons, a body of law that protects even the culpable from accountability while on the beat, and people in power who see civilians, especially those with criminal histories (but really, anyone with lip, the criminal file always is made up later), as something between burdens and impediments

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:59 pm

Wasn’t he the one who emptied his weapon indiscriminately.

The possibility of being shot is part of the job. He can’t sue over that.
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Postby Diahon » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:02 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Wasn’t he the one who emptied his weapon indiscriminately.

The possibility of being shot is part of the job. He can’t sue over that.


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btw, who represents louisville? rand or mitch? have any of them spoken up as of late regarding this?

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Postby Kernen » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:02 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Wasn’t he the one who emptied his weapon indiscriminately.

The possibility of being shot is part of the job. He can’t sue over that.

Regrettably, he probably can, though I do wonder if he runs into his state's Workers' Comp bar and if he accepted Workers' Comp benefits first.

Boy, I'd love to see his whole case file. There are a lot of neat moving parts, legally.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:07 pm

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Arlenton wrote:Did the police know that Taylor was in the house as well?

If so they should have expected someone else who could have likely been unarmed, I guess.


Yes they knew she was there, her connection to the drug dealer was what the warrant was based on. The cops were shot at by walker, a licensed gun owner who thought there was a break in going on. The cops shot back, Multiple officers firing multiple times and all missed. At least walker With his first shot hit his target

All the more reason to ban no knock warrants. Absolutely stupid things that have shown to end up with more innocent people being killed than not.

They don’t work. Ban them
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Postby Penguin Union Nation » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:08 pm

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:09 pm

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Arlenton wrote:I'd put middle of the night raids in the same category as no knock raids.


I understand the rationale but they feel a little to Stalinish for my taste

They are. It’s a hallmark of an totalitarian government to have middle of the night raids
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:12 pm

Kernen wrote:
Arlenton wrote:I mean, I'd get it if it was for catching a kidnapper or something. Not for something that IMO shouldn't even be illegal.

No-knock raids, while extremely effective, create far more issues than they solve when the cops are wrong. They'd be better off risking the loss of some evidence for the benefits to the community.


The way I see it is if someone is that much of a risk to flush the evidence why don’t the police just sit on em and wait for them to fuck up.

Sure it might take a few days but there’s bound to be a time when the suspect in question leaves the door unlocked
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Postby King Zhaoxiang of Qin » Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:43 am

I'm way too conservative to think anyone should just watch as some other people bust down their front door and make entry into their domicile. A man's home is his castle. Doesn't matter what color that man's skin is and it doesn't matter what he might or might not be guilty of otherwise. We have Stand Your Ground laws and we have the right to bear arms. If you're the police and you have proper legal justification, then you can announce that. Surround the house first if you want if you think I'm going to try to escape. But don't try to bust down my door without identifying yourself first, or else I will absolutely shoot at you, and I consider that a natural right. A God-given right. Don't see why the rules for this girl's boyfriend should be any different. If in fact they didn't identify themselves first, then it was their fault, and whatever procedure said that was OK to do? They need to change that, because it's ridiculous.

I'm no huge fan of some of these protestors and some of the things their organizations stand for, but it's not like they don't have a point. Cases like this prove they do. Normally when I'm talking about state authorities committing crimes that shock the conscience, and when I talk about people needing protection from the authorities who are supposed to be protecting them, I'm accusing Russia or China.

But here it is, right here in my own backyard. It's sickening, and it makes me feel like the government can't do a damned thing without abusing people. Why should we stop at defunding the police? What we ought to do is starve the government for funds across the board. And neither political party stands for that anymore. They all want big, bloated, disgusting government. The Republicans, Trump included, are just as guilty of it as the Democrats, maybe even moreso.

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Postby Gravlen » Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:38 am

Arlenton wrote:
Cordel One wrote:They were investigating some petty drug dealers and broke into Taylor's home with no warning on a vague suspicion her ex was involved.

So, did they mean to go into Taylor's home, knowing that her BF was there?

Yes. Taylor and Walker both, and they thought her ex-boyfriend Glover might be there too.
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:38 am

The Black Forrest wrote:Wasn’t he the one who emptied his weapon indiscriminately.

No, that was Brett Hankison. He fired into the surrounding buildings and such.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:44 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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Yes they knew she was there, her connection to the drug dealer was what the warrant was based on. The cops were shot at by walker, a licensed gun owner who thought there was a break in going on. The cops shot back, Multiple officers firing multiple times and all missed. At least walker With his first shot hit his target

All the more reason to ban no knock warrants. Absolutely stupid things that have shown to end up with more innocent people being killed than not.

They don’t work. Ban them


They do work, but once in a while something like this happens. I do agree they should be seriously restricted if not banned, because of the great harm they can cause. As I said earlier, I am not a fan.
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Postby Psipi » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:36 pm

one thing I want to say is that this is ok under multiple impossible circumstances Breena Taylor's Boyfriend was the one who did the shooting and killed an officer and Breena Taylor was not killed and the officer's announced themselves and well everyone knows that's not how it worked out
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:41 pm

"I helped murder an innocent woman in a surprise night raid on her home and got away with it, but I got hurt when her partner defended their home in accordance with the law against unidentified intruders, and now I want him to compensate me," has to be one of the most demented and cruel things I've ever heard of an American cop doing
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:43 pm

Senkaku wrote:"I helped murder an innocent woman in a surprise night raid on her home and got away with it, but I got hurt when her partner defended their home in accordance with the law against unidentified intruders, and now I want him to compensate me," has to be one of the most demented and cruel things I've ever heard of an American cop doing


If I were that guy I'd probably just skip town and tell the law to come find me. I wouldn't willingly pay money to the killer of my girlfriend.
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:45 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Senkaku wrote:"I helped murder an innocent woman in a surprise night raid on her home and got away with it, but I got hurt when her partner defended their home in accordance with the law against unidentified intruders, and now I want him to compensate me," has to be one of the most demented and cruel things I've ever heard of an American cop doing


If I were that guy I'd probably just skip town and tell the law to come find me. I wouldn't willingly pay money to the killer of my girlfriend.

Well I believe he's currently already in jail for having shot the guy so that may be tricky, unless he was released and I didn't hear about it
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:52 pm

Senkaku wrote:
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If I were that guy I'd probably just skip town and tell the law to come find me. I wouldn't willingly pay money to the killer of my girlfriend.

Well I believe he's currently already in jail for having shot the guy so that may be tricky, unless he was released and I didn't hear about it


The charges were dropped.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:45 pm

Just when I thought I couldn't find cops more vile than before.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:48 pm

Kannap wrote:Just when I thought I couldn't find cops more vile than before.


This is something the blue lives matter people don't understand. It isnt just criminals who don't like the police force. Normal law abiding citizens don't trust them either in many places because the police themselves have many criminals amongst their ranks. So instead of the empty "blue lives matter" chants, how about we hold crooked cops accountable so we can safely say at day's end that almost all cops truly are good.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:56 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Kannap wrote:Just when I thought I couldn't find cops more vile than before.


This is something the blue lives matter people don't understand. It isnt just criminals who don't like the police force. Normal law abiding citizens don't trust them either in many places because the police themselves have many criminals amongst their ranks. So instead of the empty "blue lives matter" chants, how about we hold crooked cops accountable so we can safely say at day's end that almost all cops truly are good.


I certainly don't trust the police and have no intention to call them in any situation. I get uncomfortable any time I see them in public.

And, if nothing else, I am opposed to agents of the state executing people in the streets for non-compliance. Because where does that end?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:13 pm

Kannap wrote:
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This is something the blue lives matter people don't understand. It isnt just criminals who don't like the police force. Normal law abiding citizens don't trust them either in many places because the police themselves have many criminals amongst their ranks. So instead of the empty "blue lives matter" chants, how about we hold crooked cops accountable so we can safely say at day's end that almost all cops truly are good.


I certainly don't trust the police and have no intention to call them in any situation. I get uncomfortable any time I see them in public.

And, if nothing else, I am opposed to agents of the state executing people in the streets for non-compliance. Because where does that end?


Two years ago a guy I knew got pissed at me for calling him a simp and a vulture and threatened to break into my house and murder me. I told him "you're not bullet proof. Your grandmother already lost her daughter, she doesn't need to lose a grandson too."

Guess who never broke into my house? No cops were needed nor wanted.
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:16 pm

Seems pretty heartless to sue the loved ones of someone you killed, even if that killing was justified.

Why not just get restraining orders or something?

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:26 pm

Albrenia wrote:Seems pretty heartless to sue the loved ones of someone you killed, even if that killing was justified.

Why not just get restraining orders or something?


Cause he's sadistic. Killing a woman wasn't enough for him apparently.
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Postby Daves Computer » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:59 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Seems pretty heartless to sue the loved ones of someone you killed, even if that killing was justified.

Why not just get restraining orders or something?


Cause he's sadistic. Killing a woman wasn't enough for him apparently.


Don't forget the money and time off.

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