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Postby Cordel One » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:01 pm

I really want to type 4 letters relating to my views on cops but that would get me in trouble, so instead I'll coment that this is a symptom of the fact that policing as an institution is rotten to the core. Massive dometic abuse rates aside, the very existence of racist laws and the requirement that cops enforce said laws makes the institution racist.


In this case, the cops were home invaders (in the wrong house, no less). It was self defense, and he had more justification to shoot than Kyle Whatshisname did.
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Postby The Republic of Fore » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:02 pm

I think Taylor's boyfriend shouldn't have blindly shot through a door when he didn't know who was on the other side. But what am I saying? This is America, Black people should have the right to shoot police and not suffer any consequences. Totally doesn't matter that if he wasn't a drug dealer none of this would have happened in the first place.

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Postby Esalia » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:03 pm

The Republic of Fore wrote:I think Taylor's boyfriend shouldn't have blindly shot through a door when he didn't know who was on the other side. But what am I saying? This is America, Black people should have the right to shoot police and not suffer any consequences. Totally doesn't matter that if he wasn't a drug dealer none of this would have happened in the first place.


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Postby Gravlen » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:16 pm

The Republic of Fore wrote:I think Taylor's boyfriend shouldn't have blindly shot through a door

He didn't shoot through the door.'

The Republic of Fore wrote:when he didn't know who was on the other side.

He knew who was on the other side when he opened fire: Armed men who'd just broken down his door.

The Republic of Fore wrote: But what am I saying? This is America, Black people should have the right to shoot police and not suffer any consequences.

Welcome to Kentucky, a State in which the Castle doctrine is enshrined in law. It even applies to Black people.

The Republic of Fore wrote:Totally doesn't matter that if he wasn't a drug dealer none of this would have happened in the first place.

Taylor's boyfriend Walker has never been suspected of being a drug dealer.
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Postby Daves Computer » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:19 pm

The amount of misinformation being used to justify the murder of Breonna Taylor is astonishing. What is the goal of this misinformation? To wrongly assert how minorities have "too much privilege" or that black people are deserving of the violence directed towards them? That's unethical and disgusting.

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Postby Kowani » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:23 pm

Daves Computer wrote:The amount of misinformation being used to justify the murder of Breonna Taylor is astonishing. What is the goal of this misinformation? To wrongly assert how minorities have "too much privilege" or that black people are deserving of the violence directed towards them? That's unethical and disgusting.

The latter. Almost exclusively the latter.
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Postby Esalia » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:26 pm

Daves Computer wrote:The amount of misinformation being used to justify the murder of Breonna Taylor is astonishing. What is the goal of this misinformation? To wrongly assert how minorities have "too much privilege" or that black people are deserving of the violence directed towards them? That's unethical and disgusting.


Many reasons.

Considering the character assassinations that almost always happen (even in this thread you have people saying that Taylor/Walker were involved in drugs, somehow justifying her death), I'd put my money on the latter reason.
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:40 pm

Daves Computer wrote:The amount of misinformation being used to justify the murder of Breonna Taylor is astonishing. What is the goal of this misinformation? To wrongly assert how minorities have "too much privilege" or that black people are deserving of the violence directed towards them? That's unethical and disgusting.

Also that cops can never do wrong ever, and anyone who "resists" is sus.
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Postby Daves Computer » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:48 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Daves Computer wrote:The amount of misinformation being used to justify the murder of Breonna Taylor is astonishing. What is the goal of this misinformation? To wrongly assert how minorities have "too much privilege" or that black people are deserving of the violence directed towards them? That's unethical and disgusting.

Also that cops can never do wrong ever, and anyone who "resists" is sus.


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Postby Cultural Posadism » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:51 pm

The Republic of Fore wrote:I think Taylor's boyfriend shouldn't have blindly shot through a door when he didn't know who was on the other side. But what am I saying? This is America, Black people should have the right to shoot police and not suffer any consequences. Totally doesn't matter that if he wasn't a drug dealer none of this would have happened in the first place.

You know how I know your take is trash? Not just because you're slandering Breonna Taylor's boyfriend (he was never suspected, let alone convicted, of being a drug dealer), but also because your trash take is self-defeating.

I think Taylor's boyfriend shouldn't have blindly shot through a door when he didn't know who was on the other side.

Black people should have the right to shoot police and not suffer any consequences.


If he didn't know who was on the other side, then he had every reason to react like his home was being illegally broken into, so why should he suffer consequences? From his perspective, his reaction was legitimate self-defense.

Take this. You earned it all on your own. I'll even throw in a scholarship for clown college if you want to go professional on this silly act of yours.
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Postby Cordel One » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:07 pm

Breonna Taylor's boyfriend was defending himself and his girlfriend from a home invasion.

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Postby Arlenton » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:33 pm

...did the police actually go to the wrong house?

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:34 pm

Arlenton wrote:...did the police actually go to the wrong house?


No, Taylor wasn’t the primary suspect. It was an ex boyfriend of hers who she was still friendly with was the suspected drug dealer. They were in the right house though
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:35 pm

Cultural Posadism wrote:
MGTOWia wrote:Breonna Taylor was not "murdered". She died because the criminal she was laying up with shot first at police lawfully serving a warrant. The Attorney General of the State of Kentucky -- the black AG of Kentucky -- confirmed that the police knocked.

A couple thoughts:
1. Who the fuck cares if the AG is black? He still lied to the Grand Jury.
2. Breonna Taylor's boyfriend was not a "criminal", nor before nor after her murder, as demonstrated by the fact he's not being prosecuted for shooting the pigs who murdered his girlfriend.
3. Try to be less rabid about your racism.

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Postby Cordel One » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:37 pm

Arlenton wrote:...did the police actually go to the wrong house?

They were investigating some petty drug dealers and broke into Taylor's home with no warning on a vague suspicion her ex was involved.

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Postby Arlenton » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:38 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Arlenton wrote:...did the police actually go to the wrong house?


No, Taylor wasn’t the primary suspect. It was an ex boyfriend of hers who she was still friendly with was the suspected drug dealer. They were in the right house though

Did the police know that Taylor was in the house as well?

If so they should have expected someone else who could have likely been unarmed, I guess.

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Postby Arlenton » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:39 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Arlenton wrote:...did the police actually go to the wrong house?

They were investigating some petty drug dealers and broke into Taylor's home with no warning on a vague suspicion her ex was involved.

So, did they mean to go into Taylor's home, knowing that her BF was there?

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:42 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
No, Taylor wasn’t the primary suspect. It was an ex boyfriend of hers who she was still friendly with was the suspected drug dealer. They were in the right house though

Did the police know that Taylor was in the house as well?

If so they should have expected someone else who could have likely been unarmed, I guess.


Yes they knew she was there, her connection to the drug dealer was what the warrant was based on. The cops were shot at by walker, a licensed gun owner who thought there was a break in going on. The cops shot back, Multiple officers firing multiple times and all missed. At least walker With his first shot hit his target
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Postby Cordel One » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:43 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Cordel One wrote:They were investigating some petty drug dealers and broke into Taylor's home with no warning on a vague suspicion her ex was involved.

So, did they mean to go into Taylor's home, knowing that her BF was there?

With no warning, in the middle of the night, looking for an ex that she cut off.

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Postby Arlenton » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:45 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Did the police know that Taylor was in the house as well?

If so they should have expected someone else who could have likely been unarmed, I guess.


Yes they knew she was there, her connection to the drug dealer was what the warrant was based on. The cops were shot at by walker, a licensed gun owner who thought there was a break in going on. The cops shot back, Multiple officers firing multiple times and all missed. At least walker With his first shot hit his target

It was a no knock raid, I assume?

Really should get rid of those in 99% of circumstances.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:50 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Yes they knew she was there, her connection to the drug dealer was what the warrant was based on. The cops were shot at by walker, a licensed gun owner who thought there was a break in going on. The cops shot back, Multiple officers firing multiple times and all missed. At least walker With his first shot hit his target

It was a no knock raid, I assume?

Really should get rid of those in 99% of circumstances.


Whether the cops announced themselves or not is in some dispute. I am not much of a fan of them in the middle of the night either,
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Ethel mermania wrote:
Arlenton wrote:It was a no knock raid, I assume?

Really should get rid of those in 99% of circumstances.


Whether the cops announced themselves or not is in some dispute. I am not much of a fan of them in the middle of the night either,

I'd put middle of the night raids in the same category as no knock raids.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:53 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Whether the cops announced themselves or not is in some dispute. I am not much of a fan of them in the middle of the night either,

I'd put middle of the night raids in the same category as no knock raids.


I understand the rationale but they feel a little to Stalinish for my taste
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Postby Daves Computer » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:53 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Whether the cops announced themselves or not is in some dispute. I am not much of a fan of them in the middle of the night either,

I'd put middle of the night raids in the same category as no knock raids.


To be fair, they had announced themselves. Announced themselves with a battering ram. Though, to my knowledge, either the usage of a battering ram or the violent destruction of the door was purposefully absent from the report on the raid.
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Postby Arlenton » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:55 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Arlenton wrote:I'd put middle of the night raids in the same category as no knock raids.


I understand the rationale but they feel a little to Stalinish for my taste

I mean, I'd get it if it was for catching a kidnapper or something. Not for something that IMO shouldn't even be illegal.

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