Ford and GM knew about climate change 50 years ago, lied

[The New California Republic]

Butbut, free market ! Capitalism always leads to the best outcome for the consumer !

The unfortunate truth blocked the shortest path to the money pile, so it needed to be aggressively swept under the rug and stomped on.

[The Emerald Legion]

I dunno, opposition nuclear power seems kinda retarded.

Well I want a range of new-technology reactors built, at a loss (implying government subsidies or partnerships), since whichever is best in practice will be the prototype for a whole new fleet to be mass-manufactured. But the ones that are second best will be decommissioned. Each new reactor being architect-designed and subtly different from those before, is a bad model cost-wise.

I'm still suspicious of why TEL is in favor of fission reactors though. I see them as a trade-off between nuclear waste (bad) and almost zero-emissions power, dispatchable (good). But if TEL doesn't give a rat's arse about carbon emissions it follows that It just likes the fact that reactors produce highly dangerous waste (albeit in small amounts) which presumably can be sold on the open market to home experimenters wishing to build their own dirty bombs ...

A.) I was raised in the shadow of a nuclear reactor and know it's perfectly safe.

B.) I thus find people's paranoia about it laughable and stupid.

C.) Lots of cheap energy and we get to shut the climate people up about Carbon Emissions.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Well I want a range of new-technology reactors built, at a loss (implying government subsidies or partnerships), since whichever is best in practice will be the prototype for a whole new fleet to be mass-manufactured. But the ones that are second best will be decommissioned. Each new reactor being architect-designed and subtly different from those before, is a bad model cost-wise.

I'm still suspicious of why TEL is in favor of fission reactors though. I see them as a trade-off between nuclear waste (bad) and almost zero-emissions power, dispatchable (good). But if TEL doesn't give a rat's arse about carbon emissions it follows that It just likes the fact that reactors produce highly dangerous waste (albeit in small amounts) which presumably can be sold on the open market to home experimenters wishing to build their own dirty bombs ...

A.) I was raised in the shadow of a nuclear reactor and know it's perfectly safe.

B.) I thus find people's paranoia about it laughable and stupid.

C.) Lots of cheap energy and we get to shut the climate people up about Carbon Emissions.

Imagine talking about people concerned about the climate changing like they're an annoyance. I'm not against nuclear power but calling them the climate people is like calling the guy yelling that a kid is drowning "the aquaphobia guy."

[Andsed]

No shit they lied. CEOS and businesses have a very noted trend of lying so they can get away with this kind of shit for short term profit. We need action now. Things like construction of nuclear plants and regulations of corporations. We don´t need to destroy peoples quality of life to begin making a difference. And climate change is very real and its not some future problem. Its already starting to have negative impacts by way of natural disasters. And if we continue sitting on our ass doing nothing then its only gonna get worse.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

A.) I was raised in the shadow of a nuclear reactor and know it's perfectly safe.

B.) I thus find people's paranoia about it laughable and stupid.

C.) Lots of cheap energy and we get to shut the climate people up about Carbon Emissions.

Imagine talking about people concerned about the climate changing like they're an annoyance. I'm not against nuclear power but calling them the climate people is like calling the guy yelling that a kid is drowning "the aquaphobia guy."

And anyway, not all carbon emissions come from power generation, so I doubt we'll be shutting up any time soon.

[Farnhamia]

Shut down Ford, GM, Volkswagen and all those filthy companies. And all private industry, for that matter, but every thousand kilometre journey begins with a single step.

dude, if we shut down that, the american economy will collapse you uneducated potato.

*looms ominously* Don't call people names. Be polite and you'll enjoy your stay here a lot more.

[New Visayan Islands]

Shut down Ford, GM, Volkswagen and all those filthy companies. And all private industry, for that matter, but every thousand kilometre journey begins with a single step.

dude, if we shut down that, the american economy will collapse you uneducated potato.

You can argue against the complete shutdown of private industry without insulting the other person's intelligence. Consider this an unofficial warning for flaming.

Thanks!
NVI

[Andsed]

dude, if we shut down that, the american economy will collapse you uneducated potato.

*looms ominously* Don't call people names. Be polite and you'll enjoy your stay here a lot more.

dude, if we shut down that, the american economy will collapse you uneducated potato.

You can argue against the complete shutdown of private industry without insulting the other person's intelligence. Consider this an unofficial warning for flaming.

Thanks!
NVI

Everyones gangsta till you get hit with the red text from two mods.

[Farnhamia]

*looms ominously* Don't call people names. Be polite and you'll enjoy your stay here a lot more.

You can argue against the complete shutdown of private industry without insulting the other person's intelligence. Consider this an unofficial warning for flaming.

Thanks!
NVI

Everyones gangsta till you get hit with the red text from two mods.

I'm sorry, were we talking to you?

[Salus Maior]

Private Corporations are the worst. News at 11.

[Major-Tom]

No shit? I didn't know this was breaking news.

Especially for GM, one of the most corrupt corporations of the 20th century. Their checkered history then and now is something truly to behold when you look into it. Yuck.

[Sanghyeok]

Private Corporations are the worst. News at 11.

Your viewpoint is so diverse I can't tell if you're going to be arguing with or against me on any topic until you speak.

[Salus Maior]

Private Corporations are the worst. News at 11.

Your viewpoint is so diverse I can't tell if you're going to be arguing with or against me on any topic until you speak.

I suppose it's just a lesson in not making broad assumptions.

Although my disdain for large private corporations is in line with my Distributist outlook.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Private Corporations are the worst. News at 11.

Your viewpoint is so diverse I can't tell if you're going to be arguing with or against me on any topic until you speak.

That just means he's smart.

[The Holy Therns]

Your viewpoint is so diverse I can't tell if you're going to be arguing with or against me on any topic until you speak.

I suppose it's just a lesson in not making broad assumptions.

Although my disdain for large private corporations is in line with my Distributist outlook.

And this is how I learned that term. How educational. And also ideologically consistent.

[Salus Maior]

I suppose it's just a lesson in not making broad assumptions.

Although my disdain for large private corporations is in line with my Distributist outlook.

And this is how I learned that term. How educational. And also ideologically consistent.

Distributism?

Yeah, it's broadly misunderstood/not well known.

[The Holy Therns]

And this is how I learned that term. How educational. And also ideologically consistent.

Distributism?

Yeah, it's broadly misunderstood/not well known.

Yeah, I had to wiki it but it checks out.

[Salus Maior]

Your viewpoint is so diverse I can't tell if you're going to be arguing with or against me on any topic until you speak.

That just means he's smart.

Thank you, but if I really were smart I'd be getting more of my projects done on time rather than watching 20 videos of cute babies on YouTube.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Distributism?

Yeah, it's broadly misunderstood/not well known.

Yeah, I had to wiki it but it checks out.

I like the idea of businesses owned by the collective and working for the good of all those involved and not just a select few.

[Salus Maior]

Yeah, I had to wiki it but it checks out.

I like the idea of businesses owned by the collective and working for the good of all those involved and not just a select few.

Cooperatives, not Collectives.

There's a distinction.

[Latvijas Otra Republika]

It would've made zero difference even without lobbying, we'd do the same shit because living like we're living is comfortable.

You want some sort of retribution go after Amazon, Google and all the other multi national corporations. Why don't climate activists do that instead, they're smart kids.

[Cultural Posadism]

I'm opposed to the death penalty, of course, but if there's one set of people who would probably deserve it, it would be all the omnicidal capitalists and their political allies who knew what was coming, who knew what it meant for the lives of regular people, and decided to spend the past few decades fighting tooth and nail for their economic death cult.

[Major-Tom]

It would've made zero difference even without lobbying, we'd do the same shit because living like we're living is comfortable.

You want some sort of retribution go after Amazon, Google and all the other multi national corporations. Why don't climate activists do that instead, they're smart kids.

We're beginning to catch on, don't you worry.

[Kowani]

Also, there's nothing inherent in dramatically reducing emissions that requires a drop in the quality of life. The economy versus environment problem is a false dichotomy peddled by corporate misinformation campaigns so they can keep profiteering out of making our lives worse, and so we'd thank them for it.

Remind me to keep bringing up this point in the future.

[Nevertopia]

this is why a democratic capitalist society is so important. Without oversight to keep capitalism in check it will inevitably self-destruct to turn a profit.