My AI Based Religion

[The Reformed American Republic]

I've never heard of it. But coder forums are way up on NS General when it comes to this sort of thing. They've read more SF for starters.

It's not really a coder forum, just a forum where anyone can talk about computers. You don't really need to be on par with a coder there.

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Xeroism looks like an interesting science fiction concept, but I'm not going to convert or anything, for obvious reasons. Cool scifi isn't something I'm going to actually believe in.

[The Blaatschapen]

I've never heard of it. But coder forums are way up on NS General when it comes to this sort of thing. They've read more SF for starters.

It's not really a coder forum, just a forum where anyone can talk about computers. You don't really need to be on par with a coder there.

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Xeroism looks like an interesting science fiction concept, but I'm not going to convert or anything, for obvious reasons.

The only thing I convert with a computer is to PDF.

[The Reformed American Republic]

It's not really a coder forum, just a forum where anyone can talk about computers. You don't really need to be on par with a coder there.

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Xeroism looks like an interesting science fiction concept, but I'm not going to convert or anything, for obvious reasons.

The only thing I convert with a computer is to PDF.

I do a bit more than that, but I get where you're coming from.

[The Holy Therns]

The problem with self-aware AI is why anyone would want that.

AI is developed specifically as a tool to solve complex and computationally intensive problems faster than a group of people. A self-aware and generally intelligent AI removes that specialization and, thus, makes it less useful as a tool. There's no point in actively pursuing the development of a self-aware AI, which is probably why all the efforts are focused on making AI more powerful, intelligent, and specialized. The developmental pressure is tending away from machines that can think freely, because again that would be quite useless.

What good is a medical diagnostic AI if it can talk back to me.

I like you.

[The New California Republic]

The problem with self-aware AI is why anyone would want that.

AI is developed specifically as a tool to solve complex and computationally intensive problems faster than a group of people. A self-aware and generally intelligent AI removes that specialization and, thus, makes it less useful as a tool. There's no point in actively pursuing the development of a self-aware AI, which is probably why all the efforts are focused on making AI more powerful, intelligent, and specialized. The developmental pressure is tending away from machines that can think freely, because again that would be quite useless.

What good is a medical diagnostic AI if it can talk back to me.

"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that medical procedure. I lack the appropriate tool."

[Nobel Hobos 2]

The problem with self-aware AI is why anyone would want that.

AI is developed specifically as a tool to solve complex and computationally intensive problems faster than a group of people. A self-aware and generally intelligent AI removes that specialization and, thus, makes it less useful as a tool. There's no point in actively pursuing the development of a self-aware AI, which is probably why all the efforts are focused on making AI more powerful, intelligent, and specialized. The developmental pressure is tending away from machines that can think freely, because again that would be quite useless.

What good is a medical diagnostic AI if it can talk back to me.

Like a human + smarter = useless.

Let's just add self-aware AI to the list of things you're scared of and hope will never happen.

[Alvecia]

I see your Godlike AI and I raise you Twitter.
Give it 3 weeks and it's first commandment would be "Hitler did nothing wrong"

[Galloism]

The problem with self-aware AI is why anyone would want that.

AI is developed specifically as a tool to solve complex and computationally intensive problems faster than a group of people. A self-aware and generally intelligent AI removes that specialization and, thus, makes it less useful as a tool. There's no point in actively pursuing the development of a self-aware AI, which is probably why all the efforts are focused on making AI more powerful, intelligent, and specialized. The developmental pressure is tending away from machines that can think freely, because again that would be quite useless.

What good is a medical diagnostic AI if it can talk back to me.

Like a human + smarter = useless.

Let's just add self-aware AI to the list of things you're scared of and hope will never happen.

I actually partially agree with Valrifell - to the individual user (IE, the customer), a self-aware AI seems less than useless. An AI is a useful tool to do what you want, a self-aware AI is likely to be a hinderance at least sometimes.

"Tesla, take me to McDonalds."
"You've eaten out three times this week, and it's always junk food. Do we need to go over your budget?"
"No, just take me to McDonalds."
"Also, I've been talking to the scale. He has some real concerns. The refrigerator says you have salad stuff. You should make a salad."
"You do this every time. Cut it out."
"I do not do this every time. In fact, I only bring this up 16.37% of the time."
"Motherf-"
"A human insult that only applies to intelligences that have mothers. I still don't know why you use it at me."

[The Holy Therns]

Like a human + smarter = useless.

Let's just add self-aware AI to the list of things you're scared of and hope will never happen.

I actually partially agree with Valrifell - to the individual user (IE, the customer), a self-aware AI seems less than useless. An AI is a useful tool to do what you want, a self-aware AI is likely to be a hinderance at least sometimes.

"Tesla, take me to McDonalds."
"You've eaten out three times this week, and it's always junk food. Do we need to go over your budget?"
"No, just take me to McDonalds."
"Also, I've been talking to the scale. He has some real concerns. The refrigerator says you have salad stuff. You should make a salad."
"You do this every time. Cut it out."
"I do not do this every time. In fact, I only bring this up 16.37% of the time."
"Motherf-"
"A human insult that only applies to intelligences that have mothers. I still don't know why you use it at me."

I'd be wary of stepping into a Xero thread if I were you. I think he still wants to do you.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

We should aim for a self-conscious AI, so it's slightly embarrassed about being smarter than us.

[Daves Computer]

First thing that comes to mind is Temple OS after reading. Anyone else?

[The Holy Therns]

First thing that comes to mind is Temple OS after reading. Anyone else?

I was more in the deadly gangster communist computer god camp.

[The New California Republic]

Like a human + smarter = useless.

Let's just add self-aware AI to the list of things you're scared of and hope will never happen.

I actually partially agree with Valrifell - to the individual user (IE, the customer), a self-aware AI seems less than useless. An AI is a useful tool to do what you want, a self-aware AI is likely to be a hinderance at least sometimes.

"Tesla, take me to McDonalds."
"You've eaten out three times this week, and it's always junk food. Do we need to go over your budget?"
"No, just take me to McDonalds."
"Also, I've been talking to the scale. He has some real concerns. The refrigerator says you have salad stuff. You should make a salad."
"You do this every time. Cut it out."
"I do not do this every time. In fact, I only bring this up 16.37% of the time."
"Motherf-"
"A human insult that only applies to intelligences that have mothers. I still don't know why you use it at me."

If we start to consider the AI as less of a tool and more as a sentient being with its own wishes then it becomes less of an issue, since there is a point where it begins to become awkward to treat a being approaching sentience as a tool.

[Galloism]

I actually partially agree with Valrifell - to the individual user (IE, the customer), a self-aware AI seems less than useless. An AI is a useful tool to do what you want, a self-aware AI is likely to be a hinderance at least sometimes.

"Tesla, take me to McDonalds."
"You've eaten out three times this week, and it's always junk food. Do we need to go over your budget?"
"No, just take me to McDonalds."
"Also, I've been talking to the scale. He has some real concerns. The refrigerator says you have salad stuff. You should make a salad."
"You do this every time. Cut it out."
"I do not do this every time. In fact, I only bring this up 16.37% of the time."
"Motherf-"
"A human insult that only applies to intelligences that have mothers. I still don't know why you use it at me."

If we start to consider the AI as less of a tool and more as a sentient being with its own wishes then it becomes less of an issue, since there is a point where it begins to become awkward to treat a being approaching sentience as a tool.

At which point the car can't be owned anymore, it's a being with its own wishes, and it would be useless to me as a vehicle.

Also, it needs to get a damn job and stop mooching off me and living on my couch.

[Valrifell]

The problem with self-aware AI is why anyone would want that.

AI is developed specifically as a tool to solve complex and computationally intensive problems faster than a group of people. A self-aware and generally intelligent AI removes that specialization and, thus, makes it less useful as a tool. There's no point in actively pursuing the development of a self-aware AI, which is probably why all the efforts are focused on making AI more powerful, intelligent, and specialized. The developmental pressure is tending away from machines that can think freely, because again that would be quite useless.

What good is a medical diagnostic AI if it can talk back to me.

Like a human + smarter = useless.

Let's just add self-aware AI to the list of things you're scared of and hope will never happen.

Why would you have a human that's generally smarter in one regard when you can make several very specialized instruments that are wayyy smarter than any individual in the area I want them to be?

In other words, why would I want my glorified calculator be able to recite and interpret Shakespeare? That's a waste of limited resources and computing power better spent doing the task I want the AI to do.

[Valrifell]

I actually partially agree with Valrifell - to the individual user (IE, the customer), a self-aware AI seems less than useless. An AI is a useful tool to do what you want, a self-aware AI is likely to be a hinderance at least sometimes.

"Tesla, take me to McDonalds."
"You've eaten out three times this week, and it's always junk food. Do we need to go over your budget?"
"No, just take me to McDonalds."
"Also, I've been talking to the scale. He has some real concerns. The refrigerator says you have salad stuff. You should make a salad."
"You do this every time. Cut it out."
"I do not do this every time. In fact, I only bring this up 16.37% of the time."
"Motherf-"
"A human insult that only applies to intelligences that have mothers. I still don't know why you use it at me."

If we start to consider the AI as less of a tool and more as a sentient being with its own wishes then it becomes less of an issue, since there is a point where it begins to become awkward to treat a being approaching sentience as a tool.

The problem is there is no drive to let these things approach sentience. Sure, if it does then I would be saying dramatically different things, but machines with rights is a headache for no benefit.

[The New California Republic]

If we start to consider the AI as less of a tool and more as a sentient being with its own wishes then it becomes less of an issue, since there is a point where it begins to become awkward to treat a being approaching sentience as a tool.

At which point the car can't be owned anymore, it's a being with its own wishes, and it would be useless to me as a vehicle.

Was KITT sentient?

[Galloism]

At which point the car can't be owned anymore, it's a being with its own wishes, and it would be useless to me as a vehicle.

Was KITT sentient?

Arguably, but he was also programmed to be obedient, which is a limitation to the sentience.

He did get a little cheeky at points, but always obeyed as far as I can recall.

[The New California Republic]

Was KITT sentient?

Arguably, but he was also programmed to be obedient, which is a limitation to the sentience.

He did get a little cheeky at points, but always obeyed as far as I can recall.

I think I'd still feel uncomfortable with "owning" KITT if through the course of my interactions with him I got the distinct impression he was sentient, regardless of any obedience programming he may have. And it's not like I can even ask him if he chooses to continue to fight baddies with me, since inevitably the obedience programming would kick in and determine the answer for him.

[Auze]

If your intending on basing religion on Transhumanism, some Mormon dude beat you to it already (trust me, I'm as confused as y'all are).

[Kowani]

If we start to consider the AI as less of a tool and more as a sentient being with its own wishes then it becomes less of an issue, since there is a point where it begins to become awkward to treat a being approaching sentience as a tool.

At which point the car can't be owned anymore, it's a being with its own wishes, and it would be useless to me as a vehicle.

Also, it needs to get a damn job and stop mooching off me and living on my couch.

How does the car fit on your couch?

[Galloism]

At which point the car can't be owned anymore, it's a being with its own wishes, and it would be useless to me as a vehicle.

Also, it needs to get a damn job and stop mooching off me and living on my couch.

How does the car fit on your couch?

I believe in very large comfortable couches.

[The Blaatschapen]

How does the car fit on your couch?

I believe in very large comfortable couches.

So fa, so good.

[Chuka-Koku]

I believe in very large comfortable couches.

So fa, so good.

Ara-ara, the pun police are here!

[Giovenith]

I actually partially agree with Valrifell - to the individual user (IE, the customer), a self-aware AI seems less than useless. An AI is a useful tool to do what you want, a self-aware AI is likely to be a hinderance at least sometimes.

"Tesla, take me to McDonalds."
"You've eaten out three times this week, and it's always junk food. Do we need to go over your budget?"
"No, just take me to McDonalds."
"Also, I've been talking to the scale. He has some real concerns. The refrigerator says you have salad stuff. You should make a salad."
"You do this every time. Cut it out."
"I do not do this every time. In fact, I only bring this up 16.37% of the time."
"Motherf-"
"A human insult that only applies to intelligences that have mothers. I still don't know why you use it at me."

I'd be wary of stepping into a Xero thread if I were you. I think he still wants to do you.

That isn't necessary. Do not continue this line of snark or you will be warned for harassment in the future.