Why do Some Christians support Trump?

[Sanghyeok]

Its obsession with useless military interventions and the very much anti-christian, cultural marxist cult

I don't think you quite understand Marxists or their principles, and there is no such thing as "Cultural Marxism", but that's alright.

Trump is a reasonable, centrist moderate. He is interested in making the country prosperous and tolerant. Biden used to be a centrist but today he is not only not going to be around for long, he is also dependent on the extreme left for support.

Trump isn't even centrist by American standards, which I think says a lot. He's also not interested in tolerance at all. Biden is still a centrist, and the "extreme left" hates Biden and electroraliism.

The Left is divided into the centrist corporatists, the old school big government socialists and the new trotskyist/marcusian iconclastic cult.

The Left and centrist corporatists. I'm glad Comrade Deng's philosophy has found supporters in the West.

Placating the young extremists is the only way they believe they can carry on with business as usual.

Fair enough to some extent. Corporations do only care about profit.

They will go on believing the CNN MSNBC propaganda...

Centrist propaganda? Delightful.

[Albrenia]

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I like how you first complain about people expressing their opinion as flaming, and then go on to say people are indulging in 'autistic' intolerance.

[Merrill]

You know that there are lot's of methods to prevent fertilization right?

And the Catholic Church is against all of them.

Ironic considering they had no idea how reproduction worked until ~1600-1700's at least.

I'm not Catholic. I know that some Christians believe that all "sins" should be crimes. I don't. Society and government are not the same. The Laws of God and Man should not be the same in all aspects. Crime should be direct harm to another person. Questions of what is Right or Wrong is between a person and their God.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Ok, since the election is now a week away, I have a burning question for Pro Trump Christians: Why do you support him? What is Christian about him? I don’t mean to be rude, it’s just that this dilemma has frustrated me for four years, and I need some answers. I would like to hear why Pro Trump Christians support him / believe he is a man of God

This thread has tons of leftist prejudice and ignorance. If the person that started the thread is genuinely trying to understand and is addressing Trump voters, all the leftist derangement and insults are quite frankly, sheer humiliation and trolling. I thought the Mods were against that sort of thing.......
This is a conversation desired with Trump voters, so allow THEM to have it with Glen.

1. First of all, christians don't vote 'christian'. Christians in the US understand they live in a constitutional republic and not in a theocracy. Be they catholic liberals in NY or conservative mormons in Utah.

2. Christians tend to be conservative and conservatives tend to vote republican. I really do not understand where the grounds for astonishment are...

3. Further to the issue of religion: I believe that the atheist left (I am an atheist myself), having lost any moral guidance, and having become nihilistic to the core, thanks to post-modern constructivism/relativism, is now the political faction in the USA behaving the most religiously and fanatically. Screaming to the sky, cancel-culture, ideological censorship and an overall slide into autistic intolerance, convey the reality that the Left has become completely totalitarian, having transformed left-wing politics into a religion itself. Anyone against left-wing politics is a heretic and must burn ...for the sake of tolerance, of course..................

4. Trump, quite candidly, adressed the evangelicals and owned up to his own faults and personality: he said that, as they very well knew, he was not the most religious person but that as a candidate, his platform would seek to take their concerns into consideration.

5. The alternative - for a christian - at the moment, could not be starker: it is either the corrupt establishment, its obsession with useless military interventions and the very much anti-christian, cultural marxist cult, or Trump. Trump is a reasonable, centrist moderate. He is interested in making the country prosperous and tolerant. Biden used to be a centrist but today he is not only not going to be around for long, he is also dependent on the extreme left for support.

5.1 The Left is divided into the centrist corporatists, the old school big government socialists and the new trotskyist/marcusian iconclastic cult. The centrist corporatists, afraid of lacking socialist bona fides, have allied themselves to the these modern day young anarchists against the socialists. This is why big corporations all display the rainbow flag and scream BLM, in the XXI century, something utterly bizarre seeing as US society has never been more tolerant than right now. This is because they no longer separate private from public life and because placating the young extremists is the only way they believe they can carry on with business as usual.

For all these reasons, any voter informed by christian ethics could only possibly vote for Trump.

No doubt the Pope Francis types will vote Biden but until those people are forced to kiss the shoes of black people or see their businesses burned by the deranged mob, they will go on believing the CNN MSNBC propaganda...

"Trump is reasonable, centrist moderate"

In what alternate universe is that true cuz that shit ain't true here.

Also "media bad" is not an arugment.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Ok, since the election is now a week away, I have a burning question for Pro Trump Christians: Why do you support him? What is Christian about him? I don’t mean to be rude, it’s just that this dilemma has frustrated me for four years, and I need some answers. I would like to hear why Pro Trump Christians support him / believe he is a man of God

This thread has tons of leftist prejudice and ignorance. If the person that started the thread is genuinely trying to understand and is addressing Trump voters, all the leftist derangement and insults are quite frankly, sheer humiliation and trolling. I thought the Mods were against that sort of thing.......
This is a conversation desired with Trump voters, so allow THEM to have it with Glen.

1. First of all, christians don't vote 'christian'. Christians in the US understand they live in a constitutional republic and not in a theocracy. Be they catholic liberals in NY or conservative mormons in Utah.

2. Christians tend to be conservative and conservatives tend to vote republican. I really do not understand where the grounds for astonishment are...

3. Further to the issue of religion: I believe that the atheist left (I am an atheist myself), having lost any moral guidance, and having become nihilistic to the core, thanks to post-modern constructivism/relativism, is now the political faction in the USA behaving the most religiously and fanatically. Screaming to the sky, cancel-culture, ideological censorship and an overall slide into autistic intolerance, convey the reality that the Left has become completely totalitarian, having transformed left-wing politics into a religion itself. Anyone against left-wing politics is a heretic and must burn ...for the sake of tolerance, of course..................

4. Trump, quite candidly, adressed the evangelicals and owned up to his own faults and personality: he said that, as they very well knew, he was not the most religious person but that as a candidate, his platform would seek to take their concerns into consideration.

5. The alternative - for a christian - at the moment, could not be starker: it is either the corrupt establishment, its obsession with useless military interventions and the very much anti-christian, cultural marxist cult, or Trump. Trump is a reasonable, centrist moderate. He is interested in making the country prosperous and tolerant. Biden used to be a centrist but today he is not only not going to be around for long, he is also dependent on the extreme left for support.

5.1 The Left is divided into the centrist corporatists, the old school big government socialists and the new trotskyist/marcusian iconclastic cult. The centrist corporatists, afraid of lacking socialist bona fides, have allied themselves to the these modern day young anarchists against the socialists. This is why big corporations all display the rainbow flag and scream BLM, in the XXI century, something utterly bizarre seeing as US society has never been more tolerant than right now. This is because they no longer separate private from public life and because placating the young extremists is the only way they believe they can carry on with business as usual.

For all these reasons, any voter informed by christian ethics could only possibly vote for Trump.

No doubt the Pope Francis types will vote Biden but until those people are forced to kiss the shoes of black people or see their businesses burned by the deranged mob, they will go on believing the CNN MSNBC propaganda...

Tell those Christians to forget about condemning gay marriage or abortion then since they voted for a guy who supports both. Next time an evangelical complains to me about anything, I'm asking who they voted for in 2016 and if they say Trump, my response will be "dont fucking lecture me about morality. You discredited yourself forever when you voted for the most unchristian president ever."

[Shofercia]

Ok, since the election is now a week away, I have a burning question for Pro Trump Christians: Why do you support him? What is Christian about him? I don’t mean to be rude, it’s just that this dilemma has frustrated me for four years, and I need some answers. I would like to hear why Pro Trump Christians support him / believe he is a man of God

Because he trolls those who have been trolling the Christian Right for decades. Imagine being trolled and mocked for your lifestyle, because of things that your neighbor did, but that you've never done, and have someone troll the trolls and mockers and as a bonus, that very same person appoints Conservative Justices.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Ok, since the election is now a week away, I have a burning question for Pro Trump Christians: Why do you support him? What is Christian about him? I don’t mean to be rude, it’s just that this dilemma has frustrated me for four years, and I need some answers. I would like to hear why Pro Trump Christians support him / believe he is a man of God

Because he trolls those who have been trolling the Christian Right for decades. Imagine being trolled and mocked for your lifestyle, because of things that your neighbor did, but that you've never done, and have someone troll the trolls and mockers and as a bonus, that very same person appoints Conservative Justices.

When you seek revenge, dig two graves.

[The Sovereign Realist State]

Its obsession with useless military interventions and the very much anti-christian, cultural marxist cult

I don't think you quite understand Marxists or their principles, and there is no such thing as "Cultural Marxism", but that's alright.

Trump is a reasonable, centrist moderate. He is interested in making the country prosperous and tolerant. Biden used to be a centrist but today he is not only not going to be around for long, he is also dependent on the extreme left for support.

Trump isn't even centrist by American standards, which I think says a lot. He's also not interested in tolerance at all. Biden is still a centrist, and the "extreme left" hates Biden and electroraliism.

The Left is divided into the centrist corporatists, the old school big government socialists and the new trotskyist/marcusian iconclastic cult.

The Left and centrist corporatists. I'm glad Comrade Deng's philosophy has found supporters in the West.

Placating the young extremists is the only way they believe they can carry on with business as usual.

Fair enough to some extent. Corporations do only care about profit.

They will go on believing the CNN MSNBC propaganda...

Centrist propaganda? Delightful.

Simply denying claims is not an argument. If you disagree, justify why factually

[Telconi]

Because he trolls those who have been trolling the Christian Right for decades. Imagine being trolled and mocked for your lifestyle, because of things that your neighbor did, but that you've never done, and have someone troll the trolls and mockers and as a bonus, that very same person appoints Conservative Justices.

When you seek revenge, dig two graves.

Possibly the best outcome at this point.

[The Sovereign Realist State]

Tell those Christians to forget about condemning gay marriage or abortion then since they voted for a guy who supports both. Next time an evangelical complains to me about anything, I'm asking who they voted for in 2016 and if they say Trump, my response will be "dont fucking lecture me about morality. You discredited yourself forever when you voted for the most unchristian president ever."

So to you Truman was more christian dropping the bomb? Roosevelt with ethnic concentration camps and bombing of german cities?

Trump as a President has not done anything particularly unchristian and has been in fact far more tolerant and peaceful than Bush or Obama.

Fewer wars, much decreased federal government intrusion into private life of citizens with decreased use of taxation, no particular normative impositions on anyone.

Bush and Obama were far more bellicose and far more intrusive in the lives of citizens.

Hard to see how Trump as POTUS has been less christian than his predecessors...

[Shofercia]

Because he trolls those who have been trolling the Christian Right for decades. Imagine being trolled and mocked for your lifestyle, because of things that your neighbor did, but that you've never done, and have someone troll the trolls and mockers and as a bonus, that very same person appoints Conservative Justices.

When you seek revenge, dig two graves.

Those who don't realize that decades of trolling could lead to revenge, shouldn't be trolling. That was how Trump was initially elected, remember the Cracked Article?

[Albrenia]

When you seek revenge, dig two graves.

Those who don't realize that decades of trolling could lead to revenge, shouldn't be trolling. That was how Trump was initially elected, remember the Cracked Article?

Nice to know that Republicans voting in Trump because nasty internet atheists hurt their feelings. Great work guys.

Little did they know most of the people who supported trolling creationists and Christians, now spend their time trolling SJWs. They like low-hanging rage fruit.

[The Sovereign Realist State]

1. A lot of conservative Christian would be very happy if it was though.
2. Actually, they didn't used to as the Republican's hated the Evangelical Christian portion of the population. It wasn't until the late 1900's where the Reps joined up with Evangelicals, beforehand the Reps were just as secular in their beliefs as the Dems are.
3. The left is secular deary. IE being for all beliefs.
4. Which is why he's had 3 wives, had an affair with a porn star, and is constantly saying how he wants to get with his daughter.
5. Trump is a puppet for the Right-Wing extremist organization called the GOP. He's not moderate. Hell, in most of the world most moderate Republicans would be considered right-wing extremists, let alone the GOP.
5 again because for some reason there's 2 5's. WTF are you on about here?

1. A lot? What is a lot? Most americans are christian and most americans do not want a theocracy

2. Same could be said for communists and marxists in the DNC yet... here we are.

3. The Left is not secular because you do not understand the meaning of the term 'normative'.
The Left is not neutral. The Left is aggressively evangelical, trying to IMPOSE its values on others. You see liberals on Fox News but you do not see conservatives making speeches in Hollywod. What happened to Trump supporters during 2016 and post election? They were beaten up in the streets and shouted at in schools and censored in universities.
Roe Vs Wade is very much a partisan judgement: states must be FORCED to have abortion laws.
Now, I am in favour of choice but not in favour of forcing states to have it. THAT is not being secular. That is being very faith driven. So long as the prophet is Marx

4. Not entirely sure what you were answering here... I said he admitted his faults to the evangelicals.... So listing his unchristian private life behaviours changes... what?...............

5. The GOP is right-wing extremist? How exactly? Odd extremism that attracts so many californians to Texas..............................

Depends on what you mean by 'most of the world'. I assure you that in Africa, Asia and eastern Europe, America is seen as leftist. Of course if you mean latin america and europe where all countries are bankrupt by socialism.... then yes, I am sure that conservatism is seen as very 'extremist'..............

[Geneviev]

Tell those Christians to forget about condemning gay marriage or abortion then since they voted for a guy who supports both. Next time an evangelical complains to me about anything, I'm asking who they voted for in 2016 and if they say Trump, my response will be "dont fucking lecture me about morality. You discredited yourself forever when you voted for the most unchristian president ever."

So to you Truman was more christian dropping the bomb? Roosevelt with ethnic concentration camps and bombing of german cities?

Trump as a President has not done anything particularly unchristian and has been in fact far more tolerant and peaceful than Bush or Obama.

Fewer wars, much decreased federal government intrusion into private life of citizens with decreased use of taxation, no particular normative impositions on anyone.

Bush and Obama were far more bellicose and far more intrusive in the lives of citizens.

Hard to see how Trump as POTUS has been less christian than his predecessors...

I don't know about that. Under Obama, politics didn't matter because they didn't affect me. Under Trump, politics kill the people I love. That's a huge intrusion of the worst kind.

[Albrenia]

TIL that literal communist China apparently considers America leftist.

[Sanghyeok]

1. A lot of conservative Christian would be very happy if it was though.
2. Actually, they didn't used to as the Republican's hated the Evangelical Christian portion of the population. It wasn't until the late 1900's where the Reps joined up with Evangelicals, beforehand the Reps were just as secular in their beliefs as the Dems are.
3. The left is secular deary. IE being for all beliefs.
4. Which is why he's had 3 wives, had an affair with a porn star, and is constantly saying how he wants to get with his daughter.
5. Trump is a puppet for the Right-Wing extremist organization called the GOP. He's not moderate. Hell, in most of the world most moderate Republicans would be considered right-wing extremists, let alone the GOP.
5 again because for some reason there's 2 5's. WTF are you on about here?

Depends on what you mean by 'most of the world'. I assure you that in Asia and eastern Europe, America is seen as leftist. Of course if you mean latin america and europe where all countries are bankrupt by socialism.... then yes, I am sure that conservatism is seen as very 'extremist'..............

If we talk about "democratic East Asia" and Oceania, not at all. Even the LDP wouldn't say what Trump does (at least not publicly). I will admit my knowledge of South Asia is limited, and leave that to someone else.

[The Sovereign Realist State]

I don't know about that. Under Obama, politics didn't matter because they didn't affect me. Under Trump, politics kill the people I love. That's a huge intrusion of the worst kind.

What, on God's green earth, are you on about?!!!!....................

[Shofercia]

Those who don't realize that decades of trolling could lead to revenge, shouldn't be trolling. That was how Trump was initially elected, remember the Cracked Article?

Nice to know that Republicans voting in Trump because nasty internet atheists hurt their feelings. Great work guys.

Little did they know most of the people who supported trolling creationists and Christians, now spend their time trolling SJWs. They like low-hanging rage fruit.

Hey, I'm just an observer enjoying the irony. We must seize the Memes of Production and create a Union of Trolls. Joking aside, there's still the aspect of Trump appointing Conservative Justices that certainly helps.

[Sanghyeok]

I don't know about that. Under Obama, politics didn't matter because they didn't affect me. Under Trump, politics kill the people I love. That's a huge intrusion of the worst kind.

What, on God's green earth, are you on about?!!!!....................

Lying and covering up a plague doesn't sound like something Jesus would do.

[Geneviev]

I don't know about that. Under Obama, politics didn't matter because they didn't affect me. Under Trump, politics kill the people I love. That's a huge intrusion of the worst kind.

What, on God's green earth, are you on about?!!!!....................

Donald Trump treating a deadly disease as a political issue is killing people. And killing people is intruding on my life. You can't get much worse than that.

[Albrenia]

What, on God's green earth, are you on about?!!!!....................

Lying and covering up a plague doesn't sound like something Jesus would do.

Unless you count that part where he walked among the Lepers and said 'these people are fine, it's just a flu'.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Tell those Christians to forget about condemning gay marriage or abortion then since they voted for a guy who supports both. Next time an evangelical complains to me about anything, I'm asking who they voted for in 2016 and if they say Trump, my response will be "dont fucking lecture me about morality. You discredited yourself forever when you voted for the most unchristian president ever."

So to you Truman was more christian dropping the bomb? Roosevelt with ethnic concentration camps and bombing of german cities?

Trump as a President has not done anything particularly unchristian and has been in fact far more tolerant and peaceful than Bush or Obama.

Fewer wars, much decreased federal government intrusion into private life of citizens with decreased use of taxation, no particular normative impositions on anyone.

Bush and Obama were far more bellicose and far more intrusive in the lives of citizens.

Hard to see how Trump as POTUS has been less christian than his predecessors...

Looks like you forgot those caged kids.

[Albrenia]

So to you Truman was more christian dropping the bomb? Roosevelt with ethnic concentration camps and bombing of german cities?

Trump as a President has not done anything particularly unchristian and has been in fact far more tolerant and peaceful than Bush or Obama.

Fewer wars, much decreased federal government intrusion into private life of citizens with decreased use of taxation, no particular normative impositions on anyone.

Bush and Obama were far more bellicose and far more intrusive in the lives of citizens.

Hard to see how Trump as POTUS has been less christian than his predecessors...

Looks like you forgot those caged kids.

It doesn't count though, because someone else built the cages he used to put children inside.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

As I said, don't lecture me about morality after voting for a philanderer who said he doesn't need God's forgiveness. It's hypocritical and annoying.

[The Sovereign Realist State]

Lying and covering up a plague doesn't sound like something Jesus would do.

Like Pelosi did and the DNC did by encouraging americans to go party in Chinatown and racebaiting by accusing Trump of racism for blaming China?

You're right.