Are conservative parties hateful?

[Luminesa]

Not sure if your brain has been corrupted by PUDDING, Sanghyeok, but pudding is definitely delicious and fattening.

GK Chesterton had a good quote about conservatism and liberalism: “The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.” I think the truth is somewhere more in the middle.

I think we should be careful not to classify all conservative parties as hateful, because that means that all conservatives end-up not having a place at the table. We have a chance as people to engage others who disagree with us in a kind and respectful manner, and even if we do not change their views, we can change the way they respect us. It takes patience and it takes maturity. But I think we’ve created a big-enough chasm this year between conservatives and progressives, and maybe we should be dialoguing on our disagreements rather than throwing chairs at each other.

[Sanghyeok]

I don't think UK Conservatives are blatant about their hate, though.

You should look into Priti Patel.

The Tory party also recently voted against extending a free school meal system for poor families over Christmas.
And Boris Johnson's racist comments are quite well known.

I also wish to correct you that while UKIP is certainly a hate parry, they have gone down in popularity to being no threat in anyway.

Ah, it's been some time since I was last in London so thanks for your correction. I did read about the Tories cutting the free school meals- shame on them!- but I don't think that's hateful, just being bad people.

[Sanghyeok]

I don't hate them, I just think they need to change some of their views.

They would claim that they don't hate the people you claim they hate, they just would like them to change their lifestyles or not enter their borders.

There's a difference between "You shouldn't hate gay people" and "You shouldn't be gay"

[Luminesa]

I don't think UK Conservatives are blatant about their hate, though.

You should look into Priti Patel.

The Tory party also recently voted against extending a free school meal system for poor families over Christmas.
And Boris Johnson's racist comments are quite well known.

I also wish to correct you that while UKIP is certainly a hate party, they have gone down in popularity to being no threat in anyway.

Well that’s rather horrifying.

[Telconi]

They would claim that they don't hate the people you claim they hate, they just would like them to change their lifestyles or not enter their borders.

There's a difference between "You shouldn't hate gay people" and "You shouldn't be gay"

You agree with one and not the other?

[Odreria]

I don't think UK Conservatives are blatant about their hate, though.

You should look into Priti Patel.

The Tory party also recently voted against extending a free school meal system for poor families over Christmas.
And Boris Johnson's racist comments are quite well known.

I also wish to correct you that while UKIP is certainly a hate party, they have gone down in popularity to being no threat in anyway.

gotta love the tories

[Celritannia]

You should look into Priti Patel.

The Tory party also recently voted against extending a free school meal system for poor families over Christmas.
And Boris Johnson's racist comments are quite well known.

I also wish to correct you that while UKIP is certainly a hate party, they have gone down in popularity to being no threat in anyway.

Well that’s rather horrifying.

You can see more about it in the UK thread.

I also want to add the: in 2019, the UN had to write a report on the increasing rise of poverty, especially amongst families with children, and the Tory party brushed it off.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

You should look into Priti Patel.

The Tory party also recently voted against extending a free school meal system for poor families over Christmas.
And Boris Johnson's racist comments are quite well known.

I also wish to correct you that while UKIP is certainly a hate party, they have gone down in popularity to being no threat in anyway.

gotta love the tories

Dafuq?

[Sanghyeok]

I see Merkel more as centrist though.

Only in American terms. By European standards she's definitely on the right

I thought the CDU was centre-right by EU terms and the CSU was right, at least based on their policies?

[Dumb Ideologies]

They would claim that they don't hate the people you claim they hate, they just would like them to change their lifestyles or not enter their borders.

There's a difference between "You shouldn't hate gay people" and "You shouldn't be gay"

Yes, that you agree with one and find the other horrifying enough to strongly dislike those who hold that view.

[Luminesa]

You should look into Priti Patel.

The Tory party also recently voted against extending a free school meal system for poor families over Christmas.
And Boris Johnson's racist comments are quite well known.

I also wish to correct you that while UKIP is certainly a hate party, they have gone down in popularity to being no threat in anyway.

gotta love the tories

I’ve seen this, ish. I read the article a little, but it was a while ago, and “mild starvation” does not help children learn. How crazy.

[Dominioan]

You should look into Priti Patel.

The Tory party also recently voted against extending a free school meal system for poor families over Christmas.
And Boris Johnson's racist comments are quite well known.

I also wish to correct you that while UKIP is certainly a hate party, they have gone down in popularity to being no threat in anyway.

gotta love the tories

Uh

[Sanghyeok]

There's a difference between "You shouldn't hate gay people" and "You shouldn't be gay"

You agree with one and not the other?

No, the former is telling people not to express a hateful opinion and the latter is denying LGBT people their humanity.

[Sanghyeok]

There's a difference between "You shouldn't hate gay people" and "You shouldn't be gay"

Yes, that you agree with one and find the other horrifying enough to strongly dislike those who hold that view.

I think those who don't believe gay people are people need to look at their views again. I don't hate them.

[Phaenix]

You should look into Priti Patel.

The Tory party also recently voted against extending a free school meal system for poor families over Christmas.
And Boris Johnson's racist comments are quite well known.

I also wish to correct you that while UKIP is certainly a hate party, they have gone down in popularity to being no threat in anyway.

gotta love the tories

"Mum, I'm starving!"
"Figure it out yourself! Look, Boris is on!"

[Dumb Ideologies]

You agree with one and not the other?

No, the former is telling people not to express a hateful opinion and the latter is denying LGBT people their humanity.

Seems like they're both about stopping people expressing themselves in a way that the person arguing the point feels is harmful for society.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

No, the former is telling people not to express a hateful opinion and the latter is denying LGBT people their humanity.

Seems like they're both about stopping people expressing themselves.

And that’s pretty much it. That’s the game.

[Chestaan]

Only in American terms. By European standards she's definitely on the right

I thought the CDU was centre-right by EU terms and the CSU was right, at least based on their policies?

I'd accept centre-right, yeah, but I wouldn't say centrist. I more think of the Lib-Dems as centrists. But in many ways left/centre/right is a pointless distinction

[Sanghyeok]

No, the former is telling people not to express a hateful opinion and the latter is denying LGBT people their humanity.

Seems like they're both about stopping people expressing themselves.

No, as I said there is a difference in terms of hatefulness. Conservatives would happily do the latter, which is hateful.

[Telconi]

You agree with one and not the other?

No, the former is telling people not to express a hateful opinion and the latter is denying LGBT people their humanity.

Why is it hateful?

[Odreria]

I mean Sparta was pretty based with making the kids in military school steal and hunt and fight for the food they needed but I'm afraid we've moved passed that nowadays.

[Sanghyeok]

I thought the CDU was centre-right by EU terms and the CSU was right, at least based on their policies?

I'd accept centre-right, yeah, but I wouldn't say centrist. I more think of the Lib-Dems as centrists. But in many ways left/centre/right is a pointless distinction

UK's Lib-Dems or?

[Telconi]

Seems like they're both about stopping people expressing themselves.

No, as I said there is a difference in terms of hatefulness. Conservatives would happily do the latter, which is hateful.

Your ideology is equally hateful, you just think it's good to hate the people you hate.

[Muralos]

Unfortunately, they haven't been communist for some time.

They are still socialist, there is no way you can deny if they are left wing or not.

Well, as far as I'm concerned... the CCP is in another universe from the leftist parties that Sanghyeok was probably thinking of (and the parties that would come to most of our minds).

The Democratic Party in the US, the Labour Party in New Zealand (Jacinda Ardern's party) or any garden-variety centre-left/progressive party in Europe are what comes to mind when I hear "mainstream left parties" (Sanghyeok's words)... and they seem to not rally around hate as much as accommodating a variety of people groups. Of course, you all may have different perceptions of the left.

To answer the original question:
I can only speak to the United States, and my answer would be no, although it can seem that way. Our conservative party (the Republican Party) appears to be most concerned with preserving the status quo. Individual supporters of the party seem to be pretty unforgiving, though. That's how I would characterize them.

I'd like to read more posts from this thread though because the question is actually interesting IMO and it helps shine a light on how people of different political leanings think about stuff...

[Odreria]

No, the former is telling people not to express a hateful opinion and the latter is denying LGBT people their humanity.

Why is it hateful?

Hating gay people isn't hateful? Interesting.