Arab boycott on France begins!

[Insaanistan]

If only these countries hadn’t been screwed over by colonialism, slavery, the institution of dictators, the attempted erosion of their culture, the unequal treaties keeping their countries in poverty, the Western created terrorists blowing up their mosques and homes, the same countries invading them and destabilizing their countries, the foreign placed dictators being put in power etc etc.

The islamic world had all this before the west did anything.

Of the first two, yep. You guys seem to forget my ancestors were enslaved by Arabs long AFTER my ancestors became Muslim. Arab culture? We adopted SOME of it: many of us are Afro-Asiatic and/or desert peoples who already did that or simply thought it was cool. Though some Arab definitely did force their culture on other ethnic groups. Umayyads-Ābbasids.

[New Steuben]

The islamic world had all this before the west did anything.

Of the first two, yep. You guys seem to forget my ancestors were enslaved by Arabs long AFTER my ancestors became Muslim. Arab culture? We adopted SOME of it: many of us are Afro-Asiatic and/or desert peoples who already did that or simply thought it was cool. Though some Arab definitely did force their culture on other ethnic groups. Umayyads-Ābbasids.

Considering Christianity dominated the middle east FAR before Islam....

[Endem]

Oh boy, this is going to be 2015 all over again

I suspect many more islamic terror attacks

Western countries were totally foolish by allowing such massive immigration without proper assimilation, this was a problem that could have been avoided totally.

No, that's no what I meant, well, partially

The terrorist attacks will probably lead to a general fear which may and probably will radicalize some people into islamophobia who will then become vocal about it thus in Muslim communities there may arise a fear for their safety which may lead to radicalization which will lead to more terrorist attacks which will cause a general fear which may and probably will radicalize some people....

You get what I'm saying

Basically, the moron who beheaded people just started a vicious cycle which will only lead to a further divide and radicalization of both sides which will lead to a new wave of far-right movements and next terrorist attacks

[Tundra Terra]

Of the first two, yep. You guys seem to forget my ancestors were enslaved by Arabs long AFTER my ancestors became Muslim. Arab culture? We adopted SOME of it: many of us are Afro-Asiatic and/or desert peoples who already did that or simply thought it was cool. Though some Arab definitely did force their culture on other ethnic groups. Umayyads-Ābbasids.

Considering Christianity dominated the middle east FAR before Islam....

Dont forget zoroastrianism if you go even further east

[New Steuben]

I suspect many more islamic terror attacks

Western countries were totally foolish by allowing such massive immigration without proper assimilation, this was a problem that could have been avoided totally.

No, that's no what I meant, well, partially

The terrorist attacks will probably lead to a general fear which may and probably will radicalize some people into islamophobia who will then become vocal about it thus in Muslim communities there may arise a fear for their safety which may lead to radicalization which will lead to more terrorist attacks which will cause a general fear which may and probably will radicalize some people....

You get what I'm saying

Basically, the moron who beheaded people just started a vicious cycle which will only lead to a further divide and radicalization of both sides which will lead to a new wave of far-right movements and next terrorist attacks

It's not the terrorists fault though when it comes to certain things.

The French government, like many other western governments, were totally foolish to allow mass immigration from people who were culturally VERY different without PROPER assimilation.

[Insaanistan]

Considering Christianity dominated the middle east FAR before Islam....

Dont forget zoroastrianism if you go even further east

There’s a reason Iran became Muslim slowly.

[Insaanistan]

I suspect many more islamic terror attacks

Western countries were totally foolish by allowing such massive immigration without proper assimilation, this was a problem that could have been avoided totally.

No, that's no what I meant, well, partially

The terrorist attacks will probably lead to a general fear which may and probably will radicalize some people into islamophobia who will then become vocal about it thus in Muslim communities there may arise a fear for their safety which may lead to radicalization which will lead to more terrorist attacks which will cause a general fear which may and probably will radicalize some people....

You get what I'm saying

Basically, the moron who beheaded people just started a vicious cycle which will only lead to a further divide and radicalization of both sides which will lead to a new wave of far-right movements and next terrorist attacks

Why do people listen when you say it?!

[Tundra Terra]

Probably due to the manner in which you speak rather than the content of your speech. If you wish to learn more persuasive methods of speech might I suggest studying the greeks.

[Endem]

No, that's no what I meant, well, partially

The terrorist attacks will probably lead to a general fear which may and probably will radicalize some people into islamophobia who will then become vocal about it thus in Muslim communities there may arise a fear for their safety which may lead to radicalization which will lead to more terrorist attacks which will cause a general fear which may and probably will radicalize some people....

You get what I'm saying

Basically, the moron who beheaded people just started a vicious cycle which will only lead to a further divide and radicalization of both sides which will lead to a new wave of far-right movements and next terrorist attacks

Why do people listen when you say it?!

Because I said the terrorist attacks will lead to Islamophobia due to the attacks people will start to fear the general group from which the attacker comes and due to that fear more attacks will happen because that's just how human mind works

this point is funnily enough best represented by a quote from Men in Black

I however did not started to argue there was rampant Islamophobia as that is not the point of my statement, my statement is "terrorism is f**king bad"

[Insaanistan]

Why do people listen when you say it?!

Because I said the terrorist attacks will lead to Islamophobia due to the attacks people will start to fear the general group from which the attacker comes and due to that fear more attacks will happen because that's just how human mind works

this point is funnily enough best represented by a quote from Men in Black

I however did not started to argue there was rampant Islamophobia as that is not the point of my statement, my statement is "terrorism is f**king bad"

I’ve said that many, MANY times on this thread and others. Occasionally did include there was Islamophobia in the mix.

[New Steuben]

Because I said the terrorist attacks will lead to Islamophobia due to the attacks people will start to fear the general group from which the attacker comes and due to that fear more attacks will happen because that's just how human mind works

this point is funnily enough best represented by a quote from Men in Black

I however did not started to argue there was rampant Islamophobia as that is not the point of my statement, my statement is "terrorism is f**king bad"

I’ve said that many, MANY times on this thread and others. Occasionally did include there was Islamophobia in the mix.

A phobia implies an irrational fear

Its not irrational for someone to fear having their head literally chopped off over a cartoon.

[Endem]

I’ve said that many, MANY times on this thread and others. Occasionally did include there was Islamophobia in the mix.

A phobia implies an irrational fear

Its not irrational for someone to fear having their head literally chopped off over a cartoon.

that is not definition of a phobia

However it's true that you should not have to fear being killed over a drawing

[Thermodolia]

Dont forget zoroastrianism if you go even further east

There’s a reason Iran became Muslim slowly.

And such a shame that was

[Insaanistan]

A phobia implies an irrational fear

Its not irrational for someone to fear having their head literally chopped off over a cartoon.

that is not definition of a phobia

However it's true that you should not have to fear being killed over a drawing

Agreed.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Their safety? Give me a fucking break.



People have just been beheaded, and "Islamophobia" is the first thing that comes to mind?



If there's this many bad apples [terrorists and hate preachers], there's something wrong with the orchard [Islam]. - Bill Maher





Mahathir Mohamad is a conniving snake and a national disgrace. The Malaysian government has officially joined the campaign to intimidate France and Europe into total submission. It is also currently harboring a well-known Islamist hate preacher whom it refuses to deport back to India. It has also repatriated ISIS fighters back to Malaysia for "rehabilitation", meaning these people could just as easily be walking among us and planning attacks on non-Muslim targets.

Seriously, dude? Firstly, yes our safety. Do you live in a world where Muslims are invincible immortals?

Did you read the part where he condemned the killings or no? Seriously, he was talking about the making fun of Muhammad (pbuh).

So, there’s something wrong with atheism, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism etc. ‘Cuz they’re full of bad apples, they just aren’t really reported on nearly as much.

I live in a Muslim-majority country where Islam and Muslims are officially regarded as superior to non-Muslims and we non-Muslims can't raise a finger against their bigoted hegemony over us. Christians were fucking killed by Muslims in the name of Islam. And you're concerned about the safety of Muslims? What about the safety of Christians and French people not to get stabbed and beheaded for drawing a cartoon or being Christian? This is incredibly insensitive and tone-deaf and it's attitudes like these that contribute to the Islamophobia you obsessively rail against.

Did you read the part where our former PM said Muslims have a right to be angry and to kill millions of French people for the massacres of the past? WTF?

[Pan Evropa]

Dont forget zoroastrianism if you go even further east

There’s a reason Iran became Muslim slowly.

Yeah, because the Islamic authorities persecuted the Zoroastrians. Declaring them Najis, excluding them from good jobs and access to education, burning down the library of Ctesiphon (which contained almost an entire history of Persian records), enslaving around 40,000 Persian Zoroastrian nobles, brutally massacring the population of Istakhr that refused to convert, destroying their temples, imposing the Jizya... then you have brutal military leaders like Yazid-ibn-Mohalleb who treated the Zoroastrians horribly. So yes, there is a reason. That reason is that the Muslims persecuted them in such a way to slowly force them to convert. Alhamdullilah!

[Insaanistan]

There’s a reason Iran became Muslim slowly.

Yeah, because the Islamic authorities persecuted the Zoroastrians. Declaring them Najis, excluding them from good jobs and access to education, burning down the library of Ctesiphon (which contained almost an entire history of Persian records), enslaving around 40,000 Persian Zoroastrian nobles, brutally massacring the population of Istakhr that refused to convert, destroying their temples, imposing the Jizya... then you have brutal military leaders like Yazid-ibn-Mohalleb who treated the Zoroastrians horribly. So yes, there is a reason. That reason is that the Muslims persecuted them in such a way to slowly force them to convert. Alhamdullilah!

I’m not sure which period you’re talking about, but in most of the history of Islamic rule of Iran, the only killings once the Muslims took over were of those who tried to revolt. They were declared People of the Book, ensuring them rights. I’d have to look into the incidents you’re citing. But props for knowing the term “Alhamdulilah”.

[Insaanistan]

Just looked up Istakhr, and from what I saw in a matter of minutes, historians argue if it actually was a massacre.

[Insaanistan]

Almost all the sources talking about the library of Ctesiphon being burned are Iranian, other sources seem to suggest that Ūmar burning it very well could have been made up by Iranian Shiās because, well, Ūmar. People also have tried to pin the Library of Alexandria burning on him, but historians dismiss that because “the Muslims loved books too much do something like that.”

[Pan Evropa]

Just looked up Istakhr, and from what I saw in a matter of minutes, historians argue if it actually was a massacre.

Which historians? I only see this claim of a dispute on Wikipedia but can't find any examples. I believe killing 40,000 to 150,000 people and then enslaving nearly all of the survivors is a bad thing. Istakhr was a large Zoroastrian center prior to Islam. The city was reduced to just a few hundred people after the massacre at Istakhr. Anyways, this is getting off topic...

[Insaanistan]

Jordanian brother and sister beaten a couple days ago for “speaking Arabic“ in France. Jordan’s king and queen reportedly later called to check up on them.

[Thermodolia]

Jordanian brother and sister beaten a couple days ago for “speaking Arabic“ in France. Jordan’s king and queen reportedly later called to check up on them.

Source?

[Tundra Terra]

Meanwhile I’m wondering how the Coptic/Gopnik smuggling is doing...
One wants to get out...the other in.

[Echellia]

You just don't see the international Christian community reacting like this to Family Guy.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Jordanian brother and sister beaten a couple days ago for “speaking Arabic“ in France. Jordan’s king and queen reportedly later called to check up on them.

Source?

I wouldn't hold your breath. I've asked for sources a couple of times now and am still waiting on them.