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Postby Lost Memories » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:49 am

Lost Memories wrote:France tightens security, facing 'very high' terror risk after teacher beheading
France’s national police have called for increased security at religious sites around the All Saint’s holiday this coming weekend, particularly noting online threats from extremists against Christians and moderate French Muslims.

Not surprising. Hope the french security will manage to prevent more attacks.

Though i don't like how christians seems to have been involved into this, since it's very doubtful many christians have much sympathy for vulgarity and profanity like in all the comics involved.

Even if, as much as it's unfair for unrelated people to get involved, it's probably naive to expect the less civil muslims who take part in terrorist attacks to realize the distinction.

And, it starts, again:
As expected, sadly, christians are always the scapegoats.

Stabbing attack in French city of Nice kills three people, wounds several
Three dead as woman beheaded in knife attack at French church
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A knife-wielding attacker shouting “Allahu Akbar” beheaded a woman and killed two other people in a suspected terrorist incident at a church in the French city of Nice on Thursday, police and officials said.

Police said three people were confirmed to have died in the attack and several were injured. The French anti-terrorist prosecutor’s department said it had been asked to investigate.


Avignon: a man with a knife killed by the police
A man armed with a knife allegedly tried to attack police officers in the street this Thursday at around 11.15 am in Avignon, according to information gathered by Europe 1. The attacker reportedly shouted "Allah Akbar" and threatened the police officers who responded by opening fire. The suspect succumbed to his injuries. An investigation is under way.


Muslims attacked the French embassy in Cyprus
A group of Muslims gathered on Tuesday in front of the French embassy in Cyprus and they clashed with police forces. The police also reported that the group removed the French flag while two people were arrested.

The Cypriot government has decided to strengthen safety measures to protect possible French targets in the country.

Meanwhile, media in Cyprus report that the police is assessing the warning recently made by Egypt’s President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi about a potential “wave of jihadists” in the wider region of the Eastern Mediterranean and Turkey’s role.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:05 am

France’s Muslim Council has already condemned the attacks perpetrated by terrorists, and has warned Muslims not to celebrate Mawlid an-Nabawi this Friday out of fear for their safety.
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Postby Lost Memories » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:30 am

Like this other previous appeal?
Insaanistan wrote:Meanwhile, top Muslim figure Sheikh Yasir Qadhi urges Muslims to condemn the killing of Samuel Paty and use peaceful means to stand up to Islamophobia, which he says are in accordance with what Islam teaches.

Really worked wonders, right? 3 people were killed today.
Either they are empty words, or they fall on deaf ears. (or both)
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:46 am

Lost Memories wrote:Like this other previous appeal?
Insaanistan wrote:Meanwhile, top Muslim figure Sheikh Yasir Qadhi urges Muslims to condemn the killing of Samuel Paty and use peaceful means to stand up to Islamophobia, which he says are in accordance with what Islam teaches.

Really worked wonders, right? 3 people were killed today.
Either they are empty words, or they fall on deaf ears. (or both)


Or, and this might be crazy: Muslims don’t have the ability to read and control each other’s minds and actions.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:50 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Lost Memories wrote:Like this other previous appeal?

Really worked wonders, right? 3 people were killed today.
Either they are empty words, or they fall on deaf ears. (or both)


Or, and this might be crazy: Muslims don’t have the ability to read and control each other’s minds and actions.

they are learning it from somewhere. Maybe the imam's shouldn't be preaching all this hate and intolerance
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:09 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Or, and this might be crazy: Muslims don’t have the ability to read and control each other’s minds and actions.

they are learning it from somewhere. Maybe the imam's shouldn't be preaching all this hate and intolerance


Here’s a thought: maybe... just maybe, most Imams aren’t preaching this, and ISIS’s main way of recruitment is via the internet.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:11 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:they are learning it from somewhere. Maybe the imam's shouldn't be preaching all this hate and intolerance


Here’s a thought: maybe... just maybe, most Imams aren’t preaching this, and ISIS’s main way of recruitment is via the internet.


Here is a better idea..

Maybe, just maybe... these Muslims should get a thicker skin and stop being offended to the point of wanting to go on killing sprees over the dumbest of shit?

I know, crazy.

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Postby Pan Evropa » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:21 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:they are learning it from somewhere. Maybe the imam's shouldn't be preaching all this hate and intolerance


Here’s a thought: maybe... just maybe, most Imams aren’t preaching this, and ISIS’s main way of recruitment is via the internet.

ISIS? It is Erdogan and Imran Khan inciting terrorism in France. And because of them and other Islamist leaders, innocent people are dying. Radical Islamism has no place in European civilisation.
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Postby Purpelia » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:22 am

Pan Evropa wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Here’s a thought: maybe... just maybe, most Imams aren’t preaching this, and ISIS’s main way of recruitment is via the internet.

ISIS? It is Erdogan and Imran Khan inciting terrorism in France. And because of them and other Islamist leaders, innocent people are dying. Radical Islamism has no place in European civilisation.

Edrogan is aligned with ISIS right now as they are both fighting the only legitimate government of Syria.
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Postby Pan Evropa » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:23 am

Purpelia wrote:
Pan Evropa wrote:ISIS? It is Erdogan and Imran Khan inciting terrorism in France. And because of them and other Islamist leaders, innocent people are dying. Radical Islamism has no place in European civilisation.

Edrogan is aligned with ISIS right now as they are both fighting the only legitimate government of Syria.

Well that is true I suppose. They are both enemies of Europe and will be celebrating the murder of Catholics no doubt.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:30 am

Ethnic nationalism is Erdogan’s tool for domestic popularity, but Islamism is his geopolitical power. He is using Islamism as a tool to fight Assad in Syria and "reclaim" Rojava, along with encouraging violence and embargoes
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:35 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:they are learning it from somewhere. Maybe the imam's shouldn't be preaching all this hate and intolerance


Here’s a thought: maybe... just maybe, most Imams aren’t preaching this, and ISIS’s main way of recruitment is via the internet.

And maybe the moon is made out of green cheese

The common denominator in these attacks in France is the perpetrator is muslim, and he is doing it for religious reasons.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:37 am

Pan Evropa wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Here’s a thought: maybe... just maybe, most Imams aren’t preaching this, and ISIS’s main way of recruitment is via the internet.

ISIS? It is Erdogan and Imran Khan inciting terrorism in France. And because of them and other Islamist leaders, innocent people are dying. Radical Islamism has no place in European civilisation.


I agree “Islamism” has no place in Europe, or this world for that matter. But is Khan really inciting it? I’m genuinely curious.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:39 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Here’s a thought: maybe... just maybe, most Imams aren’t preaching this, and ISIS’s main way of recruitment is via the internet.

And maybe the moon is made out of green cheese

The common denominator in these attacks in France is the perpetrator is muslim, and he is doing it for religious reasons.

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=inams+preaching+jihad


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... wgmlOhh477
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... geFW1QeIjp
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... iqt_33EXG_
Are there imams preaching this? Yeah. Are they most or a significant number? No. But one bad apple ruins the bunch.
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:39 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:they are learning it from somewhere. Maybe the imam's shouldn't be preaching all this hate and intolerance


Here’s a thought: maybe... just maybe, most Imams aren’t preaching this, and ISIS’s main way of recruitment is via the internet.

Maybe... just maybe after a terrorist attack Muslims could stop making themselves the victim and ya know not kill someone over a cartoon.

Stop saying people think every Muslim is a member of isis.

You don’t have to be a member or supporter of Isis to be a reactionary nut job.

Again no and I mean no one is saying literally every Muslim is a hive mind but the numbers are great enough that people will rightfully generalize.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:40 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Here’s a thought: maybe... just maybe, most Imams aren’t preaching this, and ISIS’s main way of recruitment is via the internet.


Here is a better idea..

Maybe, just maybe... these Muslims should get a thicker skin and stop being offended to the point of wanting to go on killing sprees over the dumbest of shit?

I know, crazy.


Have you noticed that most Muslims haven’t gone on killing sprees and that Muslim institutes, groups and leaders have already condemned the attacks? No?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:42 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:And maybe the moon is made out of green cheese

The common denominator in these attacks in France is the perpetrator is muslim, and he is doing it for religious reasons.

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=inams+preaching+jihad


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... wgmlOhh477
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... geFW1QeIjp
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... iqt_33EXG_
Are there imams preaching this? Yeah. Are they most or a significant number? No. But one bad apple ruins the bunch.


Most, I dunno, a significant #, yes.

Look at the pew poll results listed earlier in the thread. Those folks supporting sharia law in Europe have to come from somewhere.
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:44 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Here is a better idea..

Maybe, just maybe... these Muslims should get a thicker skin and stop being offended to the point of wanting to go on killing sprees over the dumbest of shit?

I know, crazy.


Have you noticed that most Muslims haven’t gone on killing sprees and that Muslim institutes, groups and leaders have already condemned the attacks? No?


Holy fuck no one is saying every Muslim is an evil terrorist. The victim hood mentality is strong here.

No shit groups and leaders condemned the attack, going mask off is counter productive.

The reason why people say “Muslims” or “Islam” is that large numbers of people who make up that faith will get angry and violent over these cartoon. Even if isnt murder the rage over a cartoon is so primitive.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:48 am

Mannixa Prime wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Have you noticed that most Muslims haven’t gone on killing sprees and that Muslim institutes, groups and leaders have already condemned the attacks? No?


Holy fuck no one is saying every Muslim is an evil terrorist. The victim hood mentality is strong here.

No shit groups and leaders condemned the attack, going mask off is counter productive.

The reason why people say “Muslims” or “Islam” is that large numbers of people who make up that faith will get angry and violent over these cartoon. Even if isnt murder the rage over a cartoon is so primitive.


Again, you guys would be singing a different tune if in the wake of the Norte Dame fire a Muslim made a comment ridiculing the Cathedral and mosques and Islamic schools were displaying it.

Muhammad (pbuh) is dear to us, and you should understand that. We are being primitive, we’re upset at the poking fun at our prophet. Why is that so hard to understand?
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:52 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:
Holy fuck no one is saying every Muslim is an evil terrorist. The victim hood mentality is strong here.

No shit groups and leaders condemned the attack, going mask off is counter productive.

The reason why people say “Muslims” or “Islam” is that large numbers of people who make up that faith will get angry and violent over these cartoon. Even if isnt murder the rage over a cartoon is so primitive.


Again, you guys would be singing a different tune if in the wake of the Norte Dame fire a Muslim made a comment ridiculing the Cathedral and mosques and Islamic schools were displaying it.

Muhammad (pbuh) is dear to us, and you should understand that. We are being primitive, we’re upset at the poking fun at our prophet. Why is that so hard to understand?


Who is you guys? I’m agnostic borderline atheist.

Religion rates are falling in the west especially among Gen z.

And most Christians hell of a lot more than Muslims don’t seriously follow their faith or they will not ya know kill someone for a cartoon. Oh and like how your comparing arson to a cartoon.

It is a primitive way of thinking because your “prophets” magic powers are as real as Harry Potter.


So you guys being upset excuses murder? Primitive to the core.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:55 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:
Holy fuck no one is saying every Muslim is an evil terrorist. The victim hood mentality is strong here.

No shit groups and leaders condemned the attack, going mask off is counter productive.

The reason why people say “Muslims” or “Islam” is that large numbers of people who make up that faith will get angry and violent over these cartoon. Even if isnt murder the rage over a cartoon is so primitive.


1: Again, you guys would be singing a different tune if in the wake of the Norte Dame fire a Muslim made a comment ridiculing the Cathedral and mosques and Islamic schools were displaying it.

2: Muhammad (pbuh) is dear to us, and you should understand that. We are being primitive, we’re upset at the poking fun at our prophet. Why is that so hard to understand?


1: Hardly. In fact, if it was funny, I might even get a chuckle out of it. Unlike the current setting where innocent people are being beheaded by true believers of the faith on a shockingly regular basis.

2: Because your faith doesn't have a right to not be offended over the stupidest of shit. The Muslim community needs to grow up overall if this truly is the case.
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Postby Pan Evropa » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:55 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Pan Evropa wrote:ISIS? It is Erdogan and Imran Khan inciting terrorism in France. And because of them and other Islamist leaders, innocent people are dying. Radical Islamism has no place in European civilisation.


I agree “Islamism” has no place in Europe, or this world for that matter. But is Khan really inciting it? I’m genuinely curious.

Yes. Imran Khan has joined Erdogan and Mahathir Mohammed in complaining about the non existent issue of Islamophobia in Europe.
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Postby Echellia » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:58 am

Another addition to the long list of reasons to treat Islam as a dangerous ideology in the same way Germany treats National Socialism.

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Insaanistan wrote:
Again, you guys would be singing a different tune if in the wake of the Norte Dame fire a Muslim made a comment ridiculing the Cathedral and mosques and Islamic schools were displaying it.

Muhammad (pbuh) is dear to us, and you should understand that. We are being primitive, we’re upset at the poking fun at our prophet. Why is that so hard to understand?


Who is you guys? I’m agnostic borderline atheist.

Religion rates are falling in the west especially among Gen z.

And most Christians hell of a lot more than Muslims don’t seriously follow their faith or they will not ya know kill someone for a cartoon. Oh and like how your comparing arson to a cartoon.

It is a primitive way of thinking because your “prophets” magic powers are as real as Harry Potter.


So you guys being upset excuses murder? Primitive to the core.


For the last time: I and most Muslims are against the killings! Geez, guys, why is that so hard to understand?
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