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Postby Risottia » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:49 am

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Exactly what part of "beheads teacher", "gun down journalists", "massacre crowd in a theatre" says "definitely not an extremist"?

All of that is extremist. However, 5 million French Muslims aren’t extremists.

And they aren't being jailed or persecuted for their religion.
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Risottia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:All of that is extremist. However, 5 million French Muslims aren’t extremists.

And they aren't being jailed or persecuted for their religion.
So what.


The second one does happen.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:53 am

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Risottia wrote:And they aren't being jailed or persecuted for their religion.
So what.


The second one does happen.

Sorry, that's utter bullshit. Muslims in Europe gets exactly the same rights as anyone else. There's the CoE checking over that.
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:54 am

Risottia wrote:
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The second one does happen.

Sorry, that's utter bullshit. Muslims in Europe gets exactly the same rights as anyone else. There's the CoE checking over that.


It’s not oppression EVERYWHERE, but some cities or regions restrict Muslim rights (Greece, Slovenia etc.)
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:54 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Risottia wrote:And they aren't being jailed or persecuted for their religion.
So what.


The second one does happen.


Yeah, I doubt that very much.

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Postby Xmara » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:03 am

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Xmara wrote:Seems like things have been escalating between France and the Middle East since those comics were published and that teacher was murdered for showing them in class.

Anyway, I’m gonna have to side with France on this one.


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Don’t forget the two Arab Muslims who got stabbed in front of their kids.

That shouldn’t have happened either.
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Postby Sarderia » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:32 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Risottia wrote:Sorry, that's utter bullshit. Muslims in Europe gets exactly the same rights as anyone else. There's the CoE checking over that.


It’s not oppression EVERYWHERE, but some cities or regions restrict Muslim rights (Greece, Slovenia etc.)

What restrictions, if I may ask? Are they specifically addressed to all Muslims, or more to the ethnicity-specific case?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:34 am

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Insaanistan wrote:
The second one does happen.

Sorry, that's utter bullshit. Muslims in Europe gets exactly the same rights as anyone else. There's the CoE checking over that.


Actually, muslims tend to have MORE rights than other groups in various areas. An exemption on bans to slaughter without sedation being an example.
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Postby The Restored Danelaw » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:39 am

Sarderia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
It’s not oppression EVERYWHERE, but some cities or regions restrict Muslim rights (Greece, Slovenia etc.)

What restrictions, if I may ask? Are they specifically addressed to all Muslims, or more to the ethnicity-specific case?

He might mean the fact some hotels don't specify if meat is pork or not. I've seen some do it in Greece and Italy, though it was like, 6-7 years ago.
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Postby Sarderia » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:45 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Risottia wrote:Sorry, that's utter bullshit. Muslims in Europe gets exactly the same rights as anyone else. There's the CoE checking over that.


Actually, muslims tend to have MORE rights than other groups in various areas. An exemption on bans to slaughter without sedation being an example.

IIRC, Muslims believe that saying Bismillahirahmanirrahim (In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful) to an animal's ear, facing the left side of the belly towards Qiblat (Mecca), resting the animal first, and then slitting said animal's throat at the neck (about the location of the Adam's apple) is several steps of the Halal procedure to slaughter an animal. You are free to correct this, if you are Muslim; my memory is a bit hazy.

According to several people, it helps "calm down" and instantly sedate the animal.
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Postby Sarderia » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:48 am

The Restored Danelaw wrote:
Sarderia wrote:What restrictions, if I may ask? Are they specifically addressed to all Muslims, or more to the ethnicity-specific case?

He might mean the fact some hotels don't specify if meat is pork or not. I've seen some do it in Greece and Italy, though it was like, 6-7 years ago.

I don't think that is what he's referring, since that technically does not count as discrimination. After all, as not all restaurants and hotels serves Kosher-labelled products; so do not all serves Halal-labelled products.
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:11 am

I was referring more to Greece going “No. You get one mosque (so no one says we have no mosques) and all the others we’ll turn into bars, nightclubs and adult film studios.”
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Postby Lost Memories » Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:19 am

One of the most vocal nations about the boycott being Pakistan, sounds strident, with some recent news coming from that same place:

Pakistani Christian sentenced to death for ‘blasphemous texts’
Islamabad, Pakistan – A court in the eastern Pakistani city of Lahore has sentenced a Christian man to death for having committed “blasphemy”, his lawyer says, in the latest case of Pakistan’s strict religious laws being applied against minorities.

Asif Pervaiz, 37, has been in custody since 2013 when he was accused of having sent “blasphemous” text messages to a former supervisor at work, lawyer Saif-ul-Malook told Al Jazeera.

The court rejected his testimony wherein he denied the charges and sentenced him to death on Tuesday.
“The complainant was a supervisor in a hosiery factory where Asif was working under him,” said Malook.
“He denied the allegations and said that this man was trying to get him to convert to Islam.”
Speaking in his own defence in court earlier in the trial, Pervaiz claimed the supervisor confronted him after he quit work at the factory, and when he refused to convert he was accused of having sent blasphemous text messages to the man.

Blasphemy laws
Those accused under the laws are mainly Muslim, in a country where 98 percent of the population follows Islam, but the laws disproportionately target members of minorities such as Christians and Hindus.


Searching "christian" on aljazeera seems to easily provide many sad examples.

From a pakistani point of view, maybe it's all very normal, they sentence to death people at home, and expect to do the same abroad.
But from a western point of view, it feels very hypocritical, why are they expecting to be treated 'nicely' according to their own expectations, when minorities inside muslim majority nations are treated like subhumans?
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:40 am

Lost Memories wrote:One of the most vocal nations about the boycott being Pakistan, sounds strident, with some recent news coming from that same place:

Pakistani Christian sentenced to death for ‘blasphemous texts’
Islamabad, Pakistan – A court in the eastern Pakistani city of Lahore has sentenced a Christian man to death for having committed “blasphemy”, his lawyer says, in the latest case of Pakistan’s strict religious laws being applied against minorities.

Asif Pervaiz, 37, has been in custody since 2013 when he was accused of having sent “blasphemous” text messages to a former supervisor at work, lawyer Saif-ul-Malook told Al Jazeera.

The court rejected his testimony wherein he denied the charges and sentenced him to death on Tuesday.
“The complainant was a supervisor in a hosiery factory where Asif was working under him,” said Malook.
“He denied the allegations and said that this man was trying to get him to convert to Islam.”
Speaking in his own defence in court earlier in the trial, Pervaiz claimed the supervisor confronted him after he quit work at the factory, and when he refused to convert he was accused of having sent blasphemous text messages to the man.

Blasphemy laws
Those accused under the laws are mainly Muslim, in a country where 98 percent of the population follows Islam, but the laws disproportionately target members of minorities such as Christians and Hindus.


Searching "christian" on aljazeera seems to easily provide many sad examples.

From a pakistani point of view, maybe it's all very normal, they sentence to death people at home, and expect to do the same abroad.
But from a western point of view, it feels very hypocritical, why are they expecting to be treated 'nicely' according to their own expectations, when minorities inside muslim majority nations are treated like subhumans?


It is hypocritical. It’s something that while not supported by most Pakistanis (in Pakistan, of course, the Western ones definitely almost all hate it), a very significant number are at least okay with it.

Though again, jihadists just bombed a Qur’ân school in Pakistan... soooo...
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Will they also boycott moving to France?
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:49 am

Bear Stearns wrote:Will they also boycott moving to France?


Maybe if they stopped getting bombed they’ll move there less.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:50 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:Will they also boycott moving to France?


Maybe if they stopped getting bombed they’ll move there less.


I wasn't aware that Kuwait, Jordan, and Qatar were getting bombed.
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:51 am

Bear Stearns wrote:Will they also boycott moving to France?

Also, it’s SOME stores in SOME countries. The Arab League didn’t get together like:
“France is being Islamophobic. How do we combat it?”
“We could open a civil dialogue with Mac-“
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Postby The Restored Danelaw » Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:53 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:Will they also boycott moving to France?


Maybe if they stopped getting bombed they’ll move there less.

Right. Because as we all know the Gulf States are terrorist hotbeds under bombardment by the French.
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Maybe if they stopped getting bombed they’ll move there less.


I wasn't aware that Kuwait, Jordan, and Qatar were getting bombed.


I didn’t know Arabs only came from Kuwait, Jordan and Qatar.
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I wasn't aware that Kuwait, Jordan, and Qatar were getting bombed.


I didn’t know Arabs only came from Kuwait, Jordan and Qatar.


Those are the countries leading the boycott.
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:01 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
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I didn’t know Arabs only came from Kuwait, Jordan and Qatar.


Those are the countries leading the boycott.


I knew that. I was referring more to the opinion that seems to be here on this thread that this is supported by all Muslims and all Arab countries.
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Postby The Restored Danelaw » Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:15 am

Insaanistan wrote:
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Those are the countries leading the boycott.


I knew that. I was referring more to the opinion that seems to be here on this thread that this is supported by all Muslims and all Arab countries.

If it isn't, they sure aren't out there protesting against a likely boycott that will hurt them more than it'll ever hurt France.
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Postby Lost Memories » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:53 pm

Macron seems to be the main target of manifestations in those muslim nations which are protesting.
Which is curious, thinking about it, there doesn't seem to be an attack on the french people, just on Macron. It isn't really a specular reaction, given the various anti-islamic comics did also target common muslims. Curious.

Well, anyway, say hi to devil Macron:

There were also some posters with a boot stamp over a picture of Macron, in other news reports.
I'm not sure, but do those have to do with muslims not liking shoes, and seeing them a dirty things?

There may be some meaning lost across the cultural barrier.
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