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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:35 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
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Less “some people” and more 48% of the whole population to the point as of late 2019, “Islamophobia is now a point of pride in France” .


That means 52% of the French are not islamaphobic. Not great stats but they're boycotting France for that?


Yes, they are. I don’t support the boycott, but France needs to work on its Islamophobia problem
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:36 am

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The Restored Danelaw wrote:Yes, and I supported it, fully and completely.

“Freedom for all! Unless it’s something muzlim.”

You are aware that France bans all religious clothing in public right? Jews can’t wear their hats and Catholics can’t wear whatever they wear and Muslims can’t wear their shit.

Saying that Muslims should be able to wear their shit when nobody else is allowed is absolute bullshit
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:37 am

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Aureumterra III wrote:I opposed the ban, but not on the principle of perceived persecution, but rather I don’t like the government dictating what someone can and cannot wear


Question: Do you seriously think women who wear the burqa are oppressed?

Anyone who is required to wear a religious garment based on their gender is oppressed
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:37 am

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That means 52% of the French are not islamaphobic. Not great stats but they're boycotting France for that?


Yes, they are. I don’t support the boycott, but France needs to work on its Islamophobia problem


I doubt the governments of the Arab league even have seen said poll though. To me it just seems like the minute the French government said "we need secularism and integration," the Arab league flipped out.

There's needs to be integration and secularism in France. Anyone who thinks North Africans in France shouldn't accept the prevailing culture and feel French shouldn't even be in France.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:37 am

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Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
That means 52% of the French are not islamaphobic. Not great stats but they're boycotting France for that?


Yes, they are. I don’t support the boycott, but France needs to work on its Islamophobia problem

After a teacher got beheaded, I really don’t see why French people wouldn't be Islamophobic.

And as you always do, you’re shifting the blame from the radical Islamist parallel society that has developed in France to some imagined persecution of Muslims
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:38 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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Question: Do you seriously think women who wear the burqa are oppressed?

Anyone who is required to wear a religious garment based on their gender is oppressed


Are nuns oppressed?
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:38 am

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Thermodolia wrote:That’s not persecution.


“You can wear what you want. Except that muzlimy thing, get that out of here!”

Dude I support banning all religious articles and clothing in public. This has nothing to do with Muslims or whatever but with religious bullshit.
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Postby The Restored Danelaw » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:38 am

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The Restored Danelaw wrote:Yes, and I supported it, fully and completely.

“Freedom for all! Unless it’s something muzlim.”

I don't agree with the very concept of freedom to practice religion at all, much less for Muslims, so you're not really doing yourself any favors with that gotcha lmao.
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:38 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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“You can wear what you want. Except that muzlimy thing, get that out of here!”

Dude I support banning all religious articles and clothing in public. This has nothing to do with Muslims or whatever but with religious bullshit.

Oh, let me rephrase.
“Freedom for all! Except religious people!”
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:39 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Anyone who is required to wear a religious garment based on their gender is oppressed


Are nuns oppressed?

Yes, as are women who are wearing those vails in Christian faiths
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:39 am

The Restored Danelaw wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:“Freedom for all! Unless it’s something muzlim.”

I don't agree with the very concept of freedom to practice religion at all, much less for Muslims, so you're not really doing yourself any favors with that gotcha lmao.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:39 am

The Restored Danelaw wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:“Freedom for all! Unless it’s something muzlim.”

I don't agree with the very concept of freedom to practice religion at all, much less for Muslims, so you're not really doing yourself any favors with that gotcha lmao.


As much of a militant atheist as I am, I wouldn't wanna live in a world where people get arrested and sent to gulag for practicing religion, especially Islam. It isnt a good way to end religion.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:40 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Dude I support banning all religious articles and clothing in public. This has nothing to do with Muslims or whatever but with religious bullshit.

Oh, let me rephrase.
“Freedom for all! Except religious people!”

Not wearing religious garments in public isn’t a violation of freedom. It’s so that nobody gets pissy or upset over the fact that they might be sitting next to a Jew or Muslim or what have you.

The less markers there are in public the better.
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Postby The Restored Danelaw » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:41 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Restored Danelaw wrote:I don't agree with the very concept of freedom to practice religion at all, much less for Muslims, so you're not really doing yourself any favors with that gotcha lmao.


As much of a militant atheist as I am, I wouldn't wanna live in a world where people get arrested and sent to gulag for practicing religion, especially Islam. It isnt a good way to end religion.

Eh. I guess I didn't exactly word it right. I meant freedom of religious expression rather than being religious in general.
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:41 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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Are nuns oppressed?

Yes, as are women who are wearing those vails in Christian faiths


I think it’s oppressive forcing people not to wear them and having a societal standard that less clothes on women=more freedom and forcing women to conform to the standards of men and objectifying them to the point companies feel a need to put a half naked women on a comercial or billboard to sell a car, or cologne, or something else.
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:42 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Oh, let me rephrase.
“Freedom for all! Except religious people!”

Not wearing religious garments in public isn’t a violation of freedom. It’s so that nobody gets pissy or upset over the fact that they might be sitting next to a Jew or Muslim or what have you.

The less markers there are in public the better.


“Muslims are such snowflakes! I also don’t want them wearing religious things near me because I don’t like it.“
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Thermodolia wrote:Yes, as are women who are wearing those vails in Christian faiths


I think it’s oppressive forcing people not to wear them and having a societal standard that less clothes on women=more freedom and forcing women to conform to the standards of men and objectifying them to the point companies feel a need to put a half naked women on a comercial or billboard to sell a car, or cologne, or something else.

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:43 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Restored Danelaw wrote:I don't agree with the very concept of freedom to practice religion at all, much less for Muslims, so you're not really doing yourself any favors with that gotcha lmao.


As much of a militant atheist as I am, I wouldn't wanna live in a world where people get arrested and sent to gulag for practicing religion, especially Islam. It isnt a good way to end religion.

The French method, which bans the public practice of religion, is the best way to go.

I have no problem if people practice their religion inside. Just don’t show it to the world. Like a dick I’m fine if you have one just don’t whip it out in public, shove it in my face, or show it to children
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:43 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Oh, let me rephrase.
“Freedom for all! Except religious people!”

Not wearing religious garments in public isn’t a violation of freedom. It’s so that nobody gets pissy or upset over the fact that they might be sitting next to a Jew or Muslim or what have you.

The less markers there are in public the better.

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Postby Sanghyeok » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:43 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Aureumterra III wrote:I opposed the ban, but not on the principle of perceived persecution, but rather I don’t like the government dictating what someone can and cannot wear


Question: Do you seriously think women who wear the burqa are oppressed?


No, I supported it because it was a blanket ruling on religion in public overall- also banning large crosses, for example.
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:45 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
As much of a militant atheist as I am, I wouldn't wanna live in a world where people get arrested and sent to gulag for practicing religion, especially Islam. It isnt a good way to end religion.

The French method, which bans the public practice of religion, is the best way to go.

I have no problem if people practice their religion inside. Just don’t show it to the world. Like a dick I’m fine if you have one just don’t whip it out in public, shove it in my face, or show it to children


Why? We shouldn’t be proud? Should be ban sports clothes because people should support teams only inside?

Also, I’ve seen that quote before somewhere...
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:46 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Not wearing religious garments in public isn’t a violation of freedom. It’s so that nobody gets pissy or upset over the fact that they might be sitting next to a Jew or Muslim or what have you.

The less markers there are in public the better.


“Muslims are such snowflakes! I also don’t want them wearing religious things near me because I don’t like it.“

Dude are you being purposely obtuse or what? Because you seem to continuously miss the points where I say I don’t give a fly fuck what your religion is I don’t want to see it in public.

You are special for being a fucking Muslim so don’t act like it, and yes the fact you are making it all about you is very snowflakey
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:46 am

Sanghyeok wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Question: Do you seriously think women who wear the burqa are oppressed?


No, I supported it because it was a blanket ruling on religion in public overall- also banning large crosses, for example.


Why not crosses in general to make it equal?
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:47 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
“Muslims are such snowflakes! I also don’t want them wearing religious things near me because I don’t like it.“

Dude are you being purposely obtuse or what? Because you seem to continuously miss the points where I say I don’t give a fly fuck what your religion is I don’t want to see it in public.

You are special for being a fucking Muslim so don’t act like it, and yes the fact you are making it all about you is very snowflakey


“Special” how, akhi?
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:47 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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Are nuns oppressed?

Yes, as are women who are wearing those vails in Christian faiths


How would you be oppressed for choosing to become a nun? It's not as if women are forced to become nuns, it's a vocation people are called to, as are men to becoming monks or priests.

As for veils, that's also not typically forced, at least not in Catholicism. It's usually seen as a very pious thing to do, but nobody's forced to do it.
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