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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:30 am

Insaanistan wrote:
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There is truth in that. I knew an Iranian who had to flee the country because he was gay and a friend tipped him off the authority was planning to visit him in the early morning hours. He left everything behind. Just grabbed money and ran......

Qur’ân: You can be gay, just don’t be in a relationship. But even if they do, you can’t do anything to them.
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Bullshit. That’s the same lame ass excuse the Catholics and Christians give as to why they don’t hate gays. Hate the sin but not the sinner is a load of bullshit
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Postby Bala Mantre » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:33 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Qur’ân: You can be gay, just don’t be in a relationship. But even if they do, you can’t do anything to them.
Governments in MENA:
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Bullshit. That’s the same lame ass excuse the Catholics and Christians give as to why they don’t hate gays. Hate the sin but not the sinner is a load of bullshit

And in the Bible, it says "A man shall not sleep with a boy.''
Not a another man, but a boy!
See the difference?
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:35 am

The Marlborough wrote:Also can we stop with the pervasive "Slavery in the Muslim world wasn't that bad and in fact a lot of slaves didn't mind it" myth. It's the same BS that was peddled about slavery in the South for a long time and is just insulting to the victims of slavery.

Also didn’t the Muslims regularly castrate their slaves? Unlike the US
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:36 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Qur’ân: You can be gay, just don’t be in a relationship. But even if they do, you can’t do anything to them.
Governments in MENA:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=htt ... AdAAAAABAD

Bullshit. That’s the same lame ass excuse the Catholics and Christians give as to why they don’t hate gays. Hate the sin but not the sinner is a load of bullshit


It’s more “hate the sin, not the sinner, but you cannot hurt the sinner at all.”
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Postby Purpelia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:37 am

Random question. How is any of this evil olympiad of whose slavery was worse slavery and whose zealots hate homosexuals more relevant to the current economic situation between certain Arab nations and France?
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Postby Bala Mantre » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:37 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Also can we stop with the pervasive "Slavery in the Muslim world wasn't that bad and in fact a lot of slaves didn't mind it" myth. It's the same BS that was peddled about slavery in the South for a long time and is just insulting to the victims of slavery.

Also didn’t the Muslims regularly castrate their slaves? Unlike the US

So did Europeans and Asian countries
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Postby The Restored Danelaw » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:38 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Bullshit. That’s the same lame ass excuse the Catholics and Christians give as to why they don’t hate gays. Hate the sin but not the sinner is a load of bullshit


It’s more “hate the sin, not the sinner, but you cannot hurt the sinner at all.”
That's utter bullshit. At least get good at lying before you pull this sort of crap lmao.
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Postby Bala Mantre » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:39 am

Purpelia wrote:Random question. How is any of this evil olympiad of whose slavery was worse slavery and whose zealots hate homosexuals more relevant to the current economic situation between certain Arab nations and France?

No idea, it seems that two groups decided to bash heads on the forums.
Anyway, Im worried that this will result in the Arab League pulling out oil and that willresult in a trade war/Great Depression
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Postby The Restored Danelaw » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:40 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Also can we stop with the pervasive "Slavery in the Muslim world wasn't that bad and in fact a lot of slaves didn't mind it" myth. It's the same BS that was peddled about slavery in the South for a long time and is just insulting to the victims of slavery.

Also didn’t the Muslims regularly castrate their slaves? Unlike the US

While raping a slave was an unspoken and hush-hush "benefit" of having slaves in the west, it was the primary reason for slavery among the Muslims. Most male slaves were supposed to look after their master's sex slaves. So yes, pretty much. Obviously that's not to say castration was limited only to the Muslims.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:43 am

Bala Mantre wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Bullshit. That’s the same lame ass excuse the Catholics and Christians give as to why they don’t hate gays. Hate the sin but not the sinner is a load of bullshit

And in the Bible, it says "A man shall not sleep with a boy.''
Not a another man, but a boy!
See the difference?

No it doesn’t. The Bible most definitely says man. Not boy. The original Hebrew clearly says man. Now there is debate as to whether or not that applies to regular Jews or just the priests and if it does apply to regular Jews theres debate about whether or not it applied to people doing the dirty outside of marriage or if it was in regards to the pagan practices of having sex in a religious ceremony.

Either way the verse most definitely says man and not boy
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Postby Bala Mantre » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:43 am

The Restored Danelaw wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Also didn’t the Muslims regularly castrate their slaves? Unlike the US

While raping a slave was an unspoken and hush-hush "benefit" of having slaves in the west, it was the primary reason for slavery among the Muslims. Most male slaves were supposed to look after their master's sex slaves. So yes, pretty much. Obviously that's not to say castration was limited only to the Muslims.

I dont see how this relates to the topic of the forum...
But whatever, get it out of your system
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:44 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Bullshit. That’s the same lame ass excuse the Catholics and Christians give as to why they don’t hate gays. Hate the sin but not the sinner is a load of bullshit


It’s more “hate the sin, not the sinner, but you cannot hurt the sinner at all.”

And its bullshit all the same because no Muslim majority nation follows that last part
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Postby Shriyans » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:48 am

turkey should not have done that on FRANCE

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Postby Bala Mantre » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:50 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
It’s more “hate the sin, not the sinner, but you cannot hurt the sinner at all.”

And its bullshit all the same because no Muslim majority nation follows that last part

Theres the threat of backlash aka they pull out the gas thus shooting a lot of nations in the foot
Or they burn their oil fields like Saudi Arabia did once or twice
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:09 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Bala Mantre wrote:And in the Bible, it says "A man shall not sleep with a boy.''
Not a another man, but a boy!
See the difference?

No it doesn’t. The Bible most definitely says man. Not boy. The original Hebrew clearly says man. Now there is debate as to whether or not that applies to regular Jews or just the priests and if it does apply to regular Jews theres debate about whether or not it applied to people doing the dirty outside of marriage or if it was in regards to the pagan practices of having sex in a religious ceremony.

Either way the verse most definitely says man and not boy

There's a debate as to whether or not the Greek translation refers to pedophilia or not, and there's evidence that suggests the line in Leviticus refers to rape rather than homosexuality, as IIRC rape isn't mentioned elsewhere in that book and given the culture of the time it really should have been.
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Postby Bala Mantre » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:12 am

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No it doesn’t. The Bible most definitely says man. Not boy. The original Hebrew clearly says man. Now there is debate as to whether or not that applies to regular Jews or just the priests and if it does apply to regular Jews theres debate about whether or not it applied to people doing the dirty outside of marriage or if it was in regards to the pagan practices of having sex in a religious ceremony.

Either way the verse most definitely says man and not boy

There's a debate as to whether or not the Greek translation refers to pedophilia or not, and there's evidence that suggests the line in Leviticus refers to rape rather than homosexuality, as IIRC rape isn't mentioned elsewhere in that book and given the culture of the time it really should have been.

I find it interesting reading some of the bible verses.
But what do you think on the topic at hand?
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:13 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
It’s more “hate the sin, not the sinner, but you cannot hurt the sinner at all.”

And its bullshit all the same because no Muslim majority nation follows that last part


That doesn’t make it BS, it just further explains why most Muslims hate the governments of Muslim majority countries.
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:15 am

The Restored Danelaw wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Also didn’t the Muslims regularly castrate their slaves? Unlike the US

While raping a slave was an unspoken and hush-hush "benefit" of having slaves in the west, it was the primary reason for slavery among the Muslims. Most male slaves were supposed to look after their master's sex slaves. So yes, pretty much. Obviously that's not to say castration was limited only to the Muslims.

Indeed, many Arab empires engaged in sexual slavery. Some people enegaged in it with Male slaves, further demonstrating how little slavers actually cared about what Islam says when it comes to what they want.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:36 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And its bullshit all the same because no Muslim majority nation follows that last part


That doesn’t make it BS, it just further explains why most Muslims hate the governments of Muslim majority countries.

Most Muslims or just you?
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Postby Risottia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:45 am

Sanghyeok wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54683738

As can be seen in above article, several Arab countries are beginning a boycott on French goods. This happened just shortly after Macron and Erdogan's relationship got spicy, when Erdogan said Macron "needed mental health treatment" and Macron replied by recalling the French ambassador for Turkey. Apparently the reason for their breakup was Macron supporting more secular reforms, which was firmly rejected by Erdogan. Obviously one side or another has to give in first, but who will it be?

So, what does everyone think will happen? Will France succumb under the pressure and go back on its reforms? Will France continue to be stubborn and hold on? Will this make NATO meetings more awkward? Please discuss.


Turkey is hardly Arab. Better like "fundie-supporting countries begin a boycott on French goods because arresting a ring of terrorists posing as mosque-goers is clearly an evil oppression of the freedom to behead the evil blasphemers".
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Postby Risottia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:49 am

Insaanistan wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:It's especially hilarious when you consider that a lot of Arab countries themselves crackdown on extremist mosques. It's not like Egypt developed a pervasive police state in part to act against the Muslim Brotherhood, Wahhabists, and Salafists.


Yeah... they crackdown on extremists... not Islam.


Exactly what part of "beheads teacher", "gun down journalists", "massacre crowd in a theatre" says "definitely not an extremist"?
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:56 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
That doesn’t make it BS, it just further explains why most Muslims hate the governments of Muslim majority countries.

Most Muslims or just you?

Most Muslims. Definitely most. Especially against Saudi Arabia. In the (paraphrased) words of Hassan Minhaj
Bin Salman gave women in Saudi Arabia the right to drive, and many Americans thought “This guy is great.” But after the Khashoggi killing, they thought “Maybe he’s not the Grest Reformer we thought he was.” Meanwhile every Muslim you know was like “Yeah,no sh*+. He’s the Crown Prince of Saudi Araba!”

Also, last year, there were many boycotting Hajj as to make sure Saudi Arabia didn’t get extra money.
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:57 am

Risottia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Yeah... they crackdown on extremists... not Islam.


Exactly what part of "beheads teacher", "gun down journalists", "massacre crowd in a theatre" says "definitely not an extremist"?

All of that is extremist. However, 5 million French Muslims aren’t extremists.
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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:02 am

Funny that he doesn't call for a boycott against China. I mean, genocide and whatnot. With the Lira falling and the economy tumbling, boycotting China would be fun – and short.

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Postby Albionist Great Britain » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:06 am

Vive la France! Though I understand the economic issues with this, I find the Arab states’ reaction to be hilarious and petty, but perfectly in-character for their ilk. May France be strong and stand firm against the Arab attacks upon French industry.

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