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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:31 pm

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Resilient Acceleration wrote:Overall, I think it just depends on how much you're willing to trade off. Another example would be my two close friends, who are very sticky lovers. Not only they're of a different ethnicity, they're also a different religion, which is far more scandalous. Ironically (and probably also due to my influence lol), both became atheists during highschool, so the religious difference don't really matter to them personally. But the boy's parent (which, admittedly, is a broken family) is a radical Islamist that views music as haram and cut off his earphone with a scissor when he was caught listening to music. So if everything worked out until after college (which I have my doubts, but who knows), he plans to just move to Australia where there are also better jobs, "convert" to Christianity (which won't be a problem since he's an atheist) and marry.

Had I been chosen as the school valedictorian during the graduation ceremony, I actually planned to give a speech to openly endorse inter-religious relationships in front of all the parents, pointing out that the Islamist-linked leader of the opposition is also actually the offspring of a happy, inter-religious couple. Sadly I came up third in the ranks, so the dream wasn't realized :p


Where do you live where radical Islam just springs up like that?

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:34 pm

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Postby The Marlborough » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:35 pm

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The Marlborough wrote:The hottest take I've come across in regards to interracial relationships is that they are instances of rape.


What

Yeah there are people out there who think that as a result of systemic oppression and different dynamics of power between racial groups, it's impossible for there to ever be full genuine consent. It's a pretty dumb idea that treats people like they are children incapable of making their own decisions, especially in regards to whom they decide to date.
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Postby Dominioan » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:37 pm

In cam be argued that its good really. The more mixed race people we have, the less people grow up to be racists.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:38 pm

Dominioan wrote:In cam be argued that its good really. The more mixed race people we have, the less people grow up to be racists.


Maybe. Latin America is pretty mixed and it still has racists.
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:39 pm

Dominioan wrote:In cam be argued that its good really. The more mixed race people we have, the less people grow up to be racists.


You would be surprised at the number of mixed race racists.
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Postby Dominioan » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:40 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Dominioan wrote:In cam be argued that its good really. The more mixed race people we have, the less people grow up to be racists.


Maybe. Latin America is pretty mixed and it still has racists.

True. But I turned out fine...I think.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:44 pm

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Maybe. Latin America is pretty mixed and it still has racists.

True. But I turned out fine...I think.


I know I didn't but that wasn't from race mixing.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:49 pm

Yes, they’re fine and acceptable.
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Postby AquilaJordyn » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:04 pm

Yes, of course, it is acceptable.

From a biological, genetic perspective, genetic diversity is preferable. If you had a kid, who was 25% European, 25% African, 25% Asian, and 25%, say, Inuit, that kid would be a genetically stronger individual than I am, at 100% European. Not "Superior" but "Stronger" because they would be more well-adapted to all potential threats than I am, and more able to take nutrients from all foods, as they'd have genes from all continents. If anyone was going to survive a mass-extinction event, bet on that kid. According to Ancestry, I'm almost pure French genetically. Unless the next mass extinction event is caused by the Black Plague or requires subsisting entirely on bread and wine, I am doomed.

I could probably cite off a list of common genetic defects faced by northern and western Europeans that show we're not superior to any other race, but whatever.

If you like a Croat girl, then like a Croat girl. Slav love is right love. One you go Slav, your heart is solved.

No offence to your mother or anything, but the idea that anyone should feel pressured to date based on race is the most detestable idea I can think of.

I think so because based on personal experiences of my friends and myself, there is little more beautiful in this world than two people being able to love each other, as their distinct cultural heritages being able to not just stay out of conflict with each other, but complement each other, is amazing. It's so perfectly human, it shows our cultural values and ethnic identities don't have to conflict, and can in fact live in harmony.

There is nothing wrong about preferring to date people of your own race or ethnicity, but you'd be missing out on a lot of life and the beauty of humanity by setting boundaries like that.

....then again, I guess I'm just really a Catholic. Universality is my biggest turn-on :/. Talk cosmopolitan to me girl.
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:07 pm

AquilaJordyn wrote:Yes, of course, it is acceptable.

From a biological, genetic perspective, genetic diversity is preferable. If you had a kid, who was 25% European, 25% African, 25% Asian, and 25%, say, Inuit, that kid would be a genetically stronger individual than I am, at 100% European.


I think that you're making the mistake of assuming all these ethnicities are homogeneous when science suggests that you can be more closely related to someone in a different race than another person within it. There are certainly strong genetic traits in people of all races (at the risk of sounding like an eugenicist) but I would hesitate to attribute genetic strength or lack thereof to someone based on their ethnic mix. On some level, we are all heavily mixed.
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Postby Kandorith » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:12 pm

Why not? My father married someone from a different "race" and I haven't dated someone from even my own ethnicity in like 15 years?(Mostly because there's barely any people of my ethnicity in this country or in my age range.) Don't mind it at all. The only things I do notice is the difference between cultures, but hey you can always learn from each other.

I do believe that such relationships can even strengthen the genes of the offspring so to say. But hey; I only read it somewhere and it might as well be completely untrue.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:15 pm

Since I've yet to have a girlfriend who is seen of my race...it would be rather problematic if it was suddenly unacceptable.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:30 pm

Yes interracial romance and marriage is absolutely acceptable. We are all people and love is love.

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Postby Geneviev » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:31 pm

Yes. As long as you're happy and not doing anything that could harm anyone else, it doesn't really matter all that much.

Besides, race is basically fake.
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Postby Aeritai » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:33 pm

Wow I'm surprised this thread has been civil so far... Usually a poster with pro-Nazi views would come in here saying why mixed relationships are bad. Knowing NSG we might just get that soon enough.
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Postby Karodova » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:36 pm

As long as no one fetishizes a race, there is absolutely nothing with interracial dating.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:37 pm

Geneviev wrote:Yes. As long as you're happy and not doing anything that could harm anyone else, it doesn't really matter all that much.

Besides, race is basically fake.


I could be misquoting this but i remember seeing something from Bill Nye that race has no basis in science. Skin tone has to do with the angle and intensity of the sun due to the curvature of the Earth.

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Postby Geneviev » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:39 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Yes. As long as you're happy and not doing anything that could harm anyone else, it doesn't really matter all that much.

Besides, race is basically fake.


I could be misquoting this but i remember seeing something from Bill Nye that race has no basis in science. Skin tone has to do with the angle and intensity of the sun due to the curvature of the Earth.

Sure. Skin tone is scientific. But our racial categories are all invented and they change constantly. Making decisions based on them is definitely not scientific.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:44 pm

Aeritai wrote:Wow I'm surprised this thread has been civil so far... Usually a poster with pro-Nazi views would come in here saying why mixed relationships are bad. Knowing NSG we might just get that soon enough.

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Geneviev wrote:Yes. As long as you're happy and not doing anything that could harm anyone else, it doesn't really matter all that much.

Besides, race is basically fake.


I could be misquoting this but i remember seeing something from Bill Nye that race has no basis in science. Skin tone has to do with the angle and intensity of the sun due to the curvature of the Earth.

Oh, yeah. Nobody who anthropologists or biologists take seriously argues that race is a thing. The science there is about as settled as climate change.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:51 pm

There is nothing wrong with relationships between people of different ethnicities.
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Postby Punished UMN » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:55 pm

Yes, it's fine.
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Postby AquilaJordyn » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:08 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
AquilaJordyn wrote:Yes, of course, it is acceptable.

From a biological, genetic perspective, genetic diversity is preferable. If you had a kid, who was 25% European, 25% African, 25% Asian, and 25%, say, Inuit, that kid would be a genetically stronger individual than I am, at 100% European.


I think that you're making the mistake of assuming all these ethnicities are homogeneous when science suggests that you can be more closely related to someone in a different race than another person within it. There are certainly strong genetic traits in people of all races (at the risk of sounding like an eugenicist) but I would hesitate to attribute genetic strength or lack thereof to someone based on their ethnic mix. On some level, we are all heavily mixed.


I mean, yes, few people are totally homogenous. But more diversity is attributable to a wider genetic gene-pool. I get that we're not starkly different, but limiting yourself to only date people within your own race certainly limits your offsprings total genetic variability. More options= more chances for variation. Heavily endangered species, like the White Rhino, which is functionally extinct, if they ever recovered, would suffer tremendously because there are so few individuals in the species, that even if they manage to come back, the genetic variability of the species would be far less than their healthy, pre-human levels. All I'm saying is, genetic diversity is good for a species and having a smaller population (Say only Europeans) would limit your species total possible diversity. There are some unique traits, genes, besides skin color, that you can find in a population. That's how gene tests work at all. I mean, some if not most of those unique traits are neutral, and contribute nothing to us. Most strongly positive traits, we mostly all share, because they spread through evolutionary pressures. But when it comes to survival, something might prove useful later down the road that you don't realize. So a trait that is unique to say, East Asians, which does not have an obvious benefit, could have one in the future. Maybe.

Honestly, the only point I was trying to make is that a wider, more diverse gene pool is always a benefit for a species. Even if we're not totally homogenous, I don't see how having a wider-array of people to date would not be genetically advantageous.

...Not that people should be choosing dates based on genetic diversity of their species or their potential offspring.
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Postby Torisakia » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:03 pm

Yes but so long as it doesn't go past handholding. Actually, that goes for all types of romance. Can't have you kids getting too crazy.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:05 pm

It's cute when the Sapiens get into hang-ups over dating other tribes of Sapiens.
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