French Exhibit on Genghis Khan Pressured by China

[Kiu Ghesik]

Sounds based.

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Spotted the Yuan Dynasty shill.

The Yuan were based. Created the first passports, respected other cultures, had relations who did a lot to combat climate change... uh, let's not talk about the last one...

I mean, they were doomed to fail, but they did some cool stuff. And some nasty stuff.

Actually they did a lot of nasty stuff.

[TURTLESHROOM II]

Supporting a bloodthirsty anti-communist lunatic and repeating racist stereotypes doesn't "Own the CCP", it just makes you look dumb.

I would rather have a bloodthirsty anti-Marxist lunatic in power than a Marxist in power. Every day. Every time. I would go so far to say that Stalin was worse than Hitler.

[Diahon]

no

No to liking the Yuan Dynasty?

Or no to doubling down when Red China gets butt hurt?

no to one in principle, no to the other if in bad faith or otherwise spewing bigotry or authoritarians who happen to side with us

[The Hindustani State]

I remember when China told a Nepali museum to remove an exhibit on the Vijayanagari king Krishnadevaraya’s ambassador, who famously went to Ming China and refused to KowTow

What was the outcome?

He was a Shaivist Hindu, so he is forbidden to bow to anyone but idols of Lord Shiva, I think they recognized that, but it’s funny because tension between India and China has existed for centuries

I think the exhibit got shut down because the current Nepali government is a puppet of China

[Kiu Ghesik]

Supporting a bloodthirsty anti-communist lunatic and repeating racist stereotypes doesn't "Own the CCP", it just makes you look dumb.

I would rather have a bloodthirsty anti-Marxist lunatic in power than a Marxist in power. Every day. Every time. I would go so far to say that Stalin was worse than Hitler.

Godwin's law, tsk tsk tsk...

[Diahon]

Supporting a bloodthirsty anti-communist lunatic and repeating racist stereotypes doesn't "Own the CCP", it just makes you look dumb.

I would rather have a bloodthirsty anti-Marxist lunatic in power than a Marxist in power. Every day. Every time. I would go so far to say that Stalin was worse than Hitler.

i would prefer mass suicide, tbh

[Ikazia]

Yuan Empire is CHAD EMPIRE. Even after six hundred years, they are STILL butt hurt enough to tell other nations to stop reminding them how their lunch got eaten by Genghis Khan.

France's response should be to open up an exhibit on the Century of Humiliation and those Fifty-Five Days at Beijing.

When you offend Red China or offend a Marxist, you don't apologize.

You double down.

You know that, in Maoist China, Genghis Khan was viewed generally favorably as a good emperor who help spread Song culture to the west? They didn't hate him or decry him. Soooooo....

[TURTLESHROOM II]

no to one in principle, no to the other if in bad faith or otherwise spewing bigotry or authoritarians who happen to side with us

There is nothing wrong with attacking the CCP in bad faith, because the CCP's mere existence is an act of bad faith against all people enslaved under its totalitarian wrath. Being "bigoted" to Red China- note, I mean the government, not your average citizen in the country -is equal to being "bigoted" towards Maduro, or Castro, or Iran, or the Kimmies in Korea, and so on.

Every opportunity to insult and degrade the pride, dignity, image, and self-worth of the CCP and any person willingly part of that organization is an opportunity worth taking. For as long as the CCP crushes China under its heel, I will continue to hope for another Century of Humiliation.

The problem, of course, is that they will ultimately eclipse us if we don't triple down and incentivize outsourcing solely to countries that do not hate us, like Japan or Vietnam, or INDIA, etc. etc. .

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

no to one in principle, no to the other if in bad faith or otherwise spewing bigotry or authoritarians who happen to side with us

There is nothing wrong with attacking the CCP in bad faith, because the CCP's mere existence is an act of bad faith against all people enslaved under its totalitarian wrath. Being "bigoted" to Red China- note, I mean the government, not your average citizen in the country -is equal to being "bigoted" towards Maduro, or Castro, or Iran, or the Kimmies in Korea, and so on.

Every opportunity to insult and degrade the pride, dignity, image, and self-worth of the CCP and any person willingly part of that organization is an opportunity worth taking. For as long as the CCP crushes China under its heel, I will continue to hope for another Century of Humiliation.

The problem, of course, is that they will ultimately eclipse us if we don't triple down and incentivize outsourcing solely to countries that do not hate us, like Japan or Vietnam, or INDIA, etc. etc. .

^^This is why I made Mongol Fardelshufflestein. May regret it in two days, but still.
Yeah, why does the US like to import things from a country that does not seem to like it in the least? Come on, Murica. Come on.

[Willtime]

Will anyone just tell me.
What the description of Genghis Khan and his career is,in this exhibit?

[Aramaalan]

Will anyone just tell me.
What the description of Genghis Khan and his career is,in this exhibit?

That his empire (key word here) included much of modern day China, and possibly that his grandson scooped up the remaining parts?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Not surprised. China has been trying to bully establishments in Europe, through their consuls and ambassadors, when anything if even remotely, is published or discussed that paints China in a bad light.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

The CCP aren't even communist anymore. They're honestly Han fascists. They see Han civilization as the center of the world and believe they are superior to other cultures and have undertaken a policy of forced assimilation on their home front against the Uighurs and now Mongols too, and they seek to enslave the rest of the world so that their needs are met by us.

I want them out of my country. No more of this totalitarian nightmare.

[Ikazia]

Supporting a bloodthirsty anti-communist lunatic and repeating racist stereotypes doesn't "Own the CCP", it just makes you look dumb.

I would rather have a bloodthirsty anti-Marxist lunatic in power than a Marxist in power. Every day. Every time. I would go so far to say that Stalin was worse than Hitler.

That... is kinda fucked up, not gonna lie. First, I'm not gonna go on about the ethics of Marxism and the USSR, but im just gonna state that: 1. Nazism Is solely based on racial supremacy, genocide, and cruelty, and Marxism is not, and 2. I don't want to get into a big debate about Stalin, but if you are judging "evil" from the amount of people killed by a leader, no, Stalin is not worse than Hitler. Some of the numbers that are thrown around about the amount of people killed by Stalin range from 20-60 million, yet the population was continued to grow quite greatly. So, either Stalin was a powerful necromancer and raised them from the dead, or... the number of people killed was greatly inflated, due to anti-communist political pressure in the west.

Also, I have to say being so willing to support a murderous anti-communist dictator instead of a Marxist leader is genuinely worrying. In that case, was it okay that Augusto Pinochet (with the support of the US), launched a military coup against the democratically elected Marxist leader Salvador Allende in Chile? Is the brutal military dictator who butchered his population, used rape as an interrogation tactic, sunk the economy twice, and is regarded as the most hated figure in Chile really better than the non-violent, popular leader who did wonders to help the poor, improved the living standard, helped small businesses and labor unions, as well as countless other achievements?

Fascism is never a preferable alternative. It is an insidious ideology, and poses a danger to all people of the world.

[Diahon]

The CCP aren't even communist anymore. They're honestly Han fascists. They see Han civilization as the center of the world and believe they are superior to other cultures and have undertaken a policy of forced assimilation on their home front against the Uighurs and now Mongols too, and they seek to enslave the rest of the world so that their needs are met by us.

I want them out of my country. No more of this totalitarian nightmare.

The Chinese Communist Party does not control the United States of America. At worst, it funds lobbies and funnels dark money into critical campaigns. That's not control, that's pay-to-play.

What it does control is the People's Republic of China, and that is bad enough.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

The CCP aren't even communist anymore. They're honestly Han fascists. They see Han civilization as the center of the world and believe they are superior to other cultures and have undertaken a policy of forced assimilation on their home front against the Uighurs and now Mongols too, and they seek to enslave the rest of the world so that their needs are met by us.

I want them out of my country. No more of this totalitarian nightmare.

The Chinese Communist Party does not control the United States of America. At worst, it funds lobbies and funnels dark money into critical campaigns. That's not control, that's pay-to-play.

What it does control is the People's Republic of China, and that is bad enough.

Considering how the NBA came out against the Hong Kong protests and how our government keeps giving jobs away to China, I would say they have control here.

And they're gaining control across the global south.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Jesus Christ, I never thought people could spew such shit until I read this thread full of national chauvinists and defenders of fascism. I'm not even a fan of China, and am highly critical of their modern government, but god damn. The brainrot is deep here. Newsflash everyone: Supporting a bloodthirsty anti-communist lunatic and repeating racist stereotypes doesn't "Own the CCP", it just makes you look dumb.

Which racist stereotypes? That China has a history of being racist to non Han people?

[Ikazia]

no to one in principle, no to the other if in bad faith or otherwise spewing bigotry or authoritarians who happen to side with us

There is nothing wrong with attacking the CCP in bad faith, because the CCP's mere existence is an act of bad faith against all people enslaved under its totalitarian wrath. Being "bigoted" to Red China- note, I mean the government, not your average citizen in the country -is equal to being "bigoted" towards Maduro, or Castro, or Iran, or the Kimmies in Korea, and so on.

Every opportunity to insult and degrade the pride, dignity, image, and self-worth of the CCP and any person willingly part of that organization is an opportunity worth taking. For as long as the CCP crushes China under its heel, I will continue to hope for another Century of Humiliation.

The problem, of course, is that they will ultimately eclipse us if we don't triple down and incentivize outsourcing solely to countries that do not hate us, like Japan or Vietnam, or INDIA, etc. etc. .

Dude, you can't claim to not be bigoted towards the Chinese but wish them another Century of Humiliation. That was one of the biggest crimes against humanity on the Chinese PEOPLE, not just the government. If you romanticize a bunch of colonial empires ruthlessly exploiting the people of China, causing them untold suffering, you clearly don't care about the people of China.

[Ikazia]

Jesus Christ, I never thought people could spew such shit until I read this thread full of national chauvinists and defenders of fascism. I'm not even a fan of China, and am highly critical of their modern government, but god damn. The brainrot is deep here. Newsflash everyone: Supporting a bloodthirsty anti-communist lunatic and repeating racist stereotypes doesn't "Own the CCP", it just makes you look dumb.

Which racist stereotypes? That China has a history of being racist to non Han people?

No, I was referring to people talking about opening exhibits about the "Wuhan Virus" and the "Disgusting Chinese Wet Markets." It just screams of racist dogwhistles.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Which racist stereotypes? That China has a history of being racist to non Han people?

No, I was referring to people talking about opening exhibits about the "Wuhan Virus" and the "Disgusting Chinese Wet Markets." It just screams of racist dogwhistles.

Lmao you mean the wet markets that actually exist? Maybe some people need to cut that shit out.

And it is the Wuhan virus. It started in Wuhan.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

OK, that was bad. But I think that was meant to be sarcasm because if China is complaining about something celebrating the Mongols, they would complain a lot more about a COVID museum.

Yeah.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

OK, that was bad. But I think that was meant to be sarcasm because if China is complaining about something celebrating the Mongols, they would complain a lot more about a COVID museum.

I wanna create something that drives the CCP off the deep end. They shouldn't be given any quarter

[Ikazia]

No, I was referring to people talking about opening exhibits about the "Wuhan Virus" and the "Disgusting Chinese Wet Markets." It just screams of racist dogwhistles.

Lmao you mean the wet markets that actually exist? Maybe some people need to cut that shit out.

And it is the Wuhan virus. It started in Wuhan.

Y'know, I'm not a fan of China, but i'm just gonna throw this out there: If a year ago, China banned wet markets, I'll bet you 10 bucks people would be reporting it as "China clamping down on traditional living and individual freedoms."

Also, if you call COVID-19 the "Wuhan Virus" then you're wrong. There's not much to say about it. We didn't call Mad Cow Disease "the British Sickness", and we don't call smallpox "the Europe Virus". Just call it COVID-19, and be done with it.

[Albrenia]

I hope the exhibit is allowed to continue. The CCP should not be able to dictate to free countries like this.

I don't agree with people cheering on bloodthirsty lunatics, be they communist or not. Fuck both Hitler and Stalin.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

I don't call it the Wuhan Virus; I just say Covid or "the virus."

I hope the exhibit is allowed to continue. The CCP should not be able to dictate to free countries like this.

I don't agree with people cheering on bloodthirsty lunatics, be they communist or not. Fuck both Hitler and Stalin.

This.