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by Punished UMN » Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:37 pm
Atheris wrote:George Washington is a better President, in my eyes, and the best the country's ever had. Hell, he's probably one of the best leaders in modern history.
That being said, Abe was no slouch, either. They were both extremely good.
You... know Lincoln didn't want to particularly end slavery, right? It was more or less forced on him, and while he was elected on a platform of anti-slavery, he didn't necessarily want to abolish the practice.
by Reverend Norv » Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:39 pm
I am loth to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battle-field, and patriot grave, to every living heart and hearthstone, all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature.
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
Col. Thomas Rainsborough, Putney Debates, 1647
A God who let us prove His existence would be an idol.
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by Benuty » Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:19 pm
United Hemand Insia wrote:I personally would Abraham, especially after the Civil War. Abe didn't own slaves like George did.
by Benuty » Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:21 pm
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by Empirical Switzerland » Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:44 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:Lincoln was better because he didn’t commit high treason against the British Crown.
George did.
News: Swiss Man uses 'Fonduethrower' on cow test-subject, lethality confirmed, Priest gets drunk on Blood of Christ, claims he just couldn't handle the Jesusness, and War with Tupeia deemed 'inevitable'.
by Aeritai » Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:00 pm
by Aclion » Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:47 pm
by Farnhamia » Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:59 pm
Aclion wrote:I've been thinking about this, well not Lincoln v Washington specifically but presidents in general. I've come to the conclusion that these types of questions are mostly meaningless. The countries that Lincoln and Washington led were so vastly different trying to weigh them is a futile endeavor. Even comparisons like Carter and Clinton pitch people dealing vastly different challenges.
That said Lincoln could totally take Washington in a fight
by Aclion » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:08 pm
Farnhamia wrote:Aclion wrote:I've been thinking about this, well not Lincoln v Washington specifically but presidents in general. I've come to the conclusion that these types of questions are mostly meaningless. The countries that Lincoln and Washington led were so vastly different trying to weigh them is a futile endeavor. Even comparisons like Carter and Clinton pitch people dealing vastly different challenges.
That said Lincoln could totally take Washington in a fight
I don't know about that, Lincoln had two inches on Washington but I bet George had a good 20 pounds on Abe.
by Farnhamia » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:09 pm
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