2020 US General Election Thread X: For Those About to Vote

[Nobel Hobos 2]

So you'd let charter schools make up their own tests?

And because those are "good" tests and the public school ones are "bad" tests, there's no way of comparing them.

Is there any way that is going to end well?

I would let charter schools make their own tests, and parents will be the judge of quality.

I have a problem with that too. Parents who are bad judges (of anything, ie stupid) will sometimes make the wrong decision, further disadvantaging children in addition to the disadvantage of having Judge Stupid as their parent.

If they disapprove, they will take their child out of the school and send them to another one.

Which itself is bad for the child's education, as well as being unpleasant for them (probably: some kids like the attention of being "new") and this will factor into the parent's decision, biasing them against moving the kid out of a school they're doing badly in.

Charter school tests are not inherently good or bad, and neither are those of public schools, but testing itself is a troublesome measure of learning.

Well class sizes (in elementary) correlate inversely with education quality, particularly for weaker students. If the charter school continued to get funding for a while after a student left, smaller class sizes would raise their performance as a school and stop more students leaving. But where would that money come from?

Without that though, with funding per student (vouchers), students leaving would have a slight positive effect up to 25-30 (class size) but then the school would have to lay off a teacher. At which point I expect it would implode. Parents would pull their kid out, another teacher would go, and pop! In business this would be a bankruptcy, though I guess charter schools are usually non-profits?

[Stylan]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/20/biden-transition-republican-cabinet-429972

Biden eyes Republicans for potential cabinet picks. some of the people being considered are Quibi CEL Meg Whitman, Former Ohio Governor John Kasich, MA Governor Charlie Baker, Former Rep Charlie Dent, and former Senator Jeff Flake.

It is common for a transition team to start vetting people before an election. I hope election day is a blowout for Biden.

Yeah that isn't surprising, Biden is literally Bill Clinton 2.0.

[San Lumen]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/20/biden-transition-republican-cabinet-429972

Biden eyes Republicans for potential cabinet picks. some of the people being considered are Quibi CEL Meg Whitman, Former Ohio Governor John Kasich, MA Governor Charlie Baker, Former Rep Charlie Dent, and former Senator Jeff Flake.

It is common for a transition team to start vetting people before an election. I hope election day is a blowout for Biden.

Ew, why does he need to give fuel for the "He's gonna be a Republican!" crowd? And Meg Whitman of all people? Gross.

Charlie Baker would be a good pick. He's a very liberal Republican.

[Telconi]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/20/biden-transition-republican-cabinet-429972

Biden eyes Republicans for potential cabinet picks. some of the people being considered are Quibi CEL Meg Whitman, Former Ohio Governor John Kasich, MA Governor Charlie Baker, Former Rep Charlie Dent, and former Senator Jeff Flake.

It is common for a transition team to start vetting people before an election. I hope election day is a blowout for Biden.

Yeah that isn't surprising, Biden is literally Bill Clinton 2.0.

Christ, I hope not.

[Rusozak]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/20/biden-transition-republican-cabinet-429972

Biden eyes Republicans for potential cabinet picks. some of the people being considered are Quibi CEL Meg Whitman, Former Ohio Governor John Kasich, MA Governor Charlie Baker, Former Rep Charlie Dent, and former Senator Jeff Flake.

It is common for a transition team to start vetting people before an election. I hope election day is a blowout for Biden.

Yeah that isn't surprising, Biden is literally Bill Clinton 2.0.

Minus the mad saxophone skills.

[San Lumen]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/20/biden-transition-republican-cabinet-429972

Biden eyes Republicans for potential cabinet picks. some of the people being considered are Quibi CEL Meg Whitman, Former Ohio Governor John Kasich, MA Governor Charlie Baker, Former Rep Charlie Dent, and former Senator Jeff Flake.

It is common for a transition team to start vetting people before an election. I hope election day is a blowout for Biden.

Yeah that isn't surprising, Biden is literally Bill Clinton 2.0.

How?

[Greater Miami Shores]

Yes however had he gotten one less vote he would not have received a majority of votes and the Whig controlled state legislature would have decided the election. Hence why I said depending on your point of view.

You obviously forgot that my point of view is the only one that matters.

Never argue with a Mod, I agree, lol I'm having a lol attack,

[Corrian]

Culp's a moron though.

Republicans seem to like nominating inept people. They nominated a flat earther for senate in Delaware.

Fun fact, Culp has no political history. Just like Trump. This is Republicans picks lately. He apparently dropped out of high school, started a construction company, then decided to be a cop, the only cop mind you, of a town of 1,000 people, in Republic, Washington. Then he decides the next step is to run for governor. There's like no in between political experience. And he's who gets the nomination of all people. And Republicans wonder why they keep losing up here.

Like look, I actually agree with the general idea that yes, politicians in Olympia SHOULD do more for the eastern side of the state, and not just care for the western side. But the solution to that isn't to choose a candidate who only cares about the eastern side of the state and not the western side.

Mind you, he's also an anti-masker, made a comment about how democracy leads to socialism which leads to communism, got famous by going against a law passed by the voters, then proceeds to get butthurt (Along with his fans) for something going against a law passed by the voters, aka the car tabs thing. Like they're not even self aware of the irony of that.


Also in the bit of the debate I saw, he was commenting about how "Poor forest management" is what caused our fires up here this year. Apparently he's unaware that the largest fire this year was in the non-forested part of our state.

[Shrillland]

Republicans seem to like nominating inept people. They nominated a flat earther for senate in Delaware.

Fun fact, Culp has no political history. Just like Trump. This is Republicans picks lately. He apparently dropped out of high school, started a construction company, then decided to be a cop, the only cop mind you, of a town of 1,000 people, in Republic, Washington. Then he decides the next step is to run for governor. There's like no in between political experience. And he's who gets the nomination of all people. And Republicans wonder why they keep losing up here.

Like look, I actually agree with the general idea that yes, politicians in Olympia SHOULD do more for the eastern side of the state, and not just care for the western side. But the solution to that isn't to choose a candidate who only cares about the eastern side of the state and not the western side.

Mind you, he's also an anti-masker, made a comment about how democracy leads to socialism which leads to communism, got famous by going against a law passed by the voters, then proceeds to get butthurt (Along with his fans) for something going against a law passed by the voters, aka the car tabs thing. Like they're not even self aware of the irony of that.


Also in the bit of the debate I saw, he was commenting about how "Poor forest management" is what caused our fires up here this year. Apparently he's unaware that the largest fire this year was in the non-forested part of our state.

That and the Republicans were hopelessly deadlocked as I recall. It could've been worse, Tim Eyman could've gotten the nod.

[Stylan]

Yeah that isn't surprising, Biden is literally Bill Clinton 2.0.

How?

Very milquetoast neoliberal who isn't as socially progressive as people like Sanders, Obama, or AOC.

[Corrian]

Ew, why does he need to give fuel for the "He's gonna be a Republican!" crowd? And Meg Whitman of all people? Gross.

Charlie Baker would be a good pick. He's a very liberal Republican.

I don't know Charlie Dent, but the others kinda suck besides Charlie Baker. Jeff Flake talked a tough game and did jack shit against Trump just like the rest, Meg Whitman spent a shit ton on a failed bid for California Governor, and John Kasich isn't as good as people make him out to be.

[San Lumen]

Charlie Baker would be a good pick. He's a very liberal Republican.

I don't know Charlie Dent, but the others kinda suck besides Charlie Baker. Jeff Flake talked a tough game and did jack shit against Trump just like the rest, Meg Whitman spent a shit ton on a failed bid for California Governor, and John Kasich isn't as good as people make him out to be.

Flake and Whitman would be bad choices I agree. Kasich isnt terrible though. Dent is very moderate but Baker is left of him.

[The Black Forrest]

I would let charter schools make their own tests, and parents will be the judge of quality.

I have a problem with that too. Parents who are bad judges (of anything, ie stupid) will sometimes make the wrong decision, further disadvantaging children in addition to the disadvantage of having Judge Stupid as their parent.

If they disapprove, they will take their child out of the school and send them to another one.

Which itself is bad for the child's education, as well as being unpleasant for them (probably: some kids like the attention of being "new") and this will factor into the parent's decision, biasing them against moving the kid out of a school they're doing badly in.

Charter school tests are not inherently good or bad, and neither are those of public schools, but testing itself is a troublesome measure of learning.

Well class sizes (in elementary) correlate inversely with education quality, particularly for weaker students. If the charter school continued to get funding for a while after a student left, smaller class sizes would raise their performance as a school and stop more students leaving. But where would that money come from?

Without that though, with funding per student (vouchers), students leaving would have a slight positive effect up to 25-30 (class size) but then the school would have to lay off a teacher. At which point I expect it would implode. Parents would pull their kid out, another teacher would go, and pop! In business this would be a bankruptcy, though I guess charter schools are usually non-profits?

There is always the assumption there will be space at the better schools.

Some of the data does point to better marks. However, there are examples the study centered on the schools where there is a lottery system to get in.

http://hechingered.org/content/charter- ... port_1288/

It’s fascinating when an institution can it gets money. Charters are allocated funds and the public schools are thrown money I guess......

Antway, this is a bit of a tangent so......

[Telconi]

Republicans seem to like nominating inept people. They nominated a flat earther for senate in Delaware.

Fun fact, Culp has no political history. Just like Trump. This is Republicans picks lately. He apparently dropped out of high school, started a construction company, then decided to be a cop, the only cop mind you, of a town of 1,000 people, in Republic, Washington. Then he decides the next step is to run for governor. There's like no in between political experience. And he's who gets the nomination of all people. And Republicans wonder why they keep losing up here.

Like look, I actually agree with the general idea that yes, politicians in Olympia SHOULD do more for the eastern side of the state, and not just care for the western side. But the solution to that isn't to choose a candidate who only cares about the eastern side of the state and not the western side.

Mind you, he's also an anti-masker, made a comment about how democracy leads to socialism which leads to communism, got famous by going against a law passed by the voters, then proceeds to get butthurt (Along with his fans) for something going against a law passed by the voters, aka the car tabs thing. Like they're not even self aware of the irony of that.


Also in the bit of the debate I saw, he was commenting about how "Poor forest management" is what caused our fires up here this year. Apparently he's unaware that the largest fire this year was in the non-forested part of our state.

It's the same sort of stuff we get here, everyone knows the candidates are just token candidates who only exist to take the L anyhow. So why does it matter if they're crazy?

[San Lumen]

Republicans seem to like nominating inept people. They nominated a flat earther for senate in Delaware.

Fun fact, Culp has no political history. Just like Trump. This is Republicans picks lately. He apparently dropped out of high school, started a construction company, then decided to be a cop, the only cop mind you, of a town of 1,000 people, in Republic, Washington. Then he decides the next step is to run for governor. There's like no in between political experience. And he's who gets the nomination of all people. And Republicans wonder why they keep losing up here.

Like look, I actually agree with the general idea that yes, politicians in Olympia SHOULD do more for the eastern side of the state, and not just care for the western side. But the solution to that isn't to choose a candidate who only cares about the eastern side of the state and not the western side.

Mind you, he's also an anti-masker, made a comment about how democracy leads to socialism which leads to communism, got famous by going against a law passed by the voters, then proceeds to get butthurt (Along with his fans) for something going against a law passed by the voters, aka the car tabs thing. Like they're not even self aware of the irony of that.


Also in the bit of the debate I saw, he was commenting about how "Poor forest management" is what caused our fires up here this year. Apparently he's unaware that the largest fire this year was in the non-forested part of our state.

What a loon. shows had far right Republicans have become. They are doubling down on the ignore urban areas mantra and anti science.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

You obviously forgot that my point of view is the only one that matters.

Never argue with a Mod, I agree, lol I'm having a lol attack,

Mods have better things to do than argue with we mortals.

More peaceful, happy, constructive things. Rescuing a beetle from their ornamental pond for instance ...

[Senkaku]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/20/biden-transition-republican-cabinet-429972

Biden eyes Republicans for potential cabinet picks. some of the people being considered are Quibi CEL Meg Whitman, Former Ohio Governor John Kasich, MA Governor Charlie Baker, Former Rep Charlie Dent, and former Senator Jeff Flake.

It is common for a transition team to start vetting people before an election. I hope election day is a blowout for Biden.

Jesus fucking christ. If he does that it's going to destroy any hope, ability, or will for progressive policymaking. I was really hoping we weren't going to get the compromise-austerity-triangulation Biden scenario but fuck I guess that's what's happening

[Telconi]

Fun fact, Culp has no political history. Just like Trump. This is Republicans picks lately. He apparently dropped out of high school, started a construction company, then decided to be a cop, the only cop mind you, of a town of 1,000 people, in Republic, Washington. Then he decides the next step is to run for governor. There's like no in between political experience. And he's who gets the nomination of all people. And Republicans wonder why they keep losing up here.

Like look, I actually agree with the general idea that yes, politicians in Olympia SHOULD do more for the eastern side of the state, and not just care for the western side. But the solution to that isn't to choose a candidate who only cares about the eastern side of the state and not the western side.

Mind you, he's also an anti-masker, made a comment about how democracy leads to socialism which leads to communism, got famous by going against a law passed by the voters, then proceeds to get butthurt (Along with his fans) for something going against a law passed by the voters, aka the car tabs thing. Like they're not even self aware of the irony of that.


Also in the bit of the debate I saw, he was commenting about how "Poor forest management" is what caused our fires up here this year. Apparently he's unaware that the largest fire this year was in the non-forested part of our state.

What a loon. shows had far right Republicans have become. They are doubling down on the ignore urban areas mantra and anti science.

I mean, turnabout's fair play, why should they pay attention to urban areas?

[San Lumen]

What a loon. shows had far right Republicans have become. They are doubling down on the ignore urban areas mantra and anti science.

I mean, turnabout's fair play, why should they pay attention to urban areas?

A governor should only be concerned with one part of the state? They are the executive of the entire state not just places that voted for them.

[Telconi]

I mean, turnabout's fair play, why should they pay attention to urban areas?

A governor should only be concerned with one part of the state? They are the executive of the entire state not just places that voted for them.

What should be is entirely irrelevant, because we don't get that.

[San Lumen]

A governor should only be concerned with one part of the state? They are the executive of the entire state not just places that voted for them.

What should be is entirely irrelevant, because we don't get that.

How do you not?

[Telconi]

What should be is entirely irrelevant, because we don't get that.

How do you not?

Democrat governors don't give a shit about us. So if we win, why should we give a shit about their supporters?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Yeah that isn't surprising, Biden is literally Bill Clinton 2.0.

Minus the mad saxophone skills.

So he's lame as fuck?

[United Hemand Insia]

Minus the mad saxophone skills.

So he's lame as fuck?

Yes

[The Black Forrest]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/20/biden-transition-republican-cabinet-429972

Biden eyes Republicans for potential cabinet picks. some of the people being considered are Quibi CEL Meg Whitman, Former Ohio Governor John Kasich, MA Governor Charlie Baker, Former Rep Charlie Dent, and former Senator Jeff Flake.

It is common for a transition team to start vetting people before an election. I hope election day is a blowout for Biden.

Jesus fucking christ. If he does that it's going to destroy any hope, ability, or will for progressive policymaking. I was really hoping we weren't going to get the compromise-austerity-triangulation Biden scenario but fuck I guess that's what's happening

Soooo the two parties are fighting and it’s a bad thing to try and get more talking and working together on issues?

Would your Howie dude “degrade” himself for a staff potition?

Why not get people to poss that to Biden?