NATION

PASSWORD

2020 US General Election Thread X: For Those About to Vote

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

Who Do You Support in the 2020 General Election?

Donald Trump (R)
147
29%
Joe Biden (D)
276
54%
Howie Hawkins (G)
59
12%
Jo Jorgensen (L)
27
5%
 
Total votes : 509

User avatar
Cisairse
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10935
Founded: Mar 17, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Cisairse » Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
US-SSR wrote:
All I see here is a lot of "probably" from one Republican legal eagle who Trump nominated to the Court of International Trade. That's a lot to swallow to conclude that a law Congress made persuant to its Constitutional authority is somehow flawed. Not buying it at all, mate. You wanna prove Nancy Pelosi can't succeed to the Oval or that the next Vice-President of the US isn't a citizen, go tell it to a judge. Good luck with that.

Emperor Kanye

Yes
The details of the above post are subject to leftist infighting.

I officially endorse Fivey Fox for president of the United States.

User avatar
Torisakia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16473
Founded: Jun 04, 2011
Anarchy

Postby Torisakia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cisairse wrote:incoming Kanye 49+dc victory in 3…2…1…

He’s not on the ballot in enough states to get to 270.

Not with that attitude.
Royal Alexandre Hockey Invitational II Champions, NS Sports' Unofficial Champions of Life™
Pro: truth
Anti: uptight short sided narrow minded hypocrites, neurotic psychotic pigheaded politicians, short-haired yellow-bellied sons of Tricky Dick who try to mother-hubbard soft soap me with pockets full of hopes, tight-lipped condescending mama's little chauvinists, Schizophrenic egocentric paranoiac primadonnas

User avatar
Cultural Posadism
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1075
Founded: Oct 05, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Cultural Posadism » Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:54 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Cisairse wrote:incoming Kanye 49+dc victory in 3…2…1…


Hate to break it to you,
Image

Oh hell yes
be gay do crime

User avatar
Albrenia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16619
Founded: Aug 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Albrenia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:55 pm

New haven america wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
I, for one, support our new President.

He's President of the world now too, not just the US.

I don't.

Libertarianism is ewwy.


I'd normally agree, but free ponies for all and turning Rand Paul gay win me over. Also the hat really kicks.

User avatar
Rusozak
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5978
Founded: Jun 14, 2015
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Rusozak » Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:55 pm

San Lumen wrote:
US-SSR wrote:
All I see here is a lot of "probably" from one Republican legal eagle who Trump nominated to the Court of International Trade. That's a lot to swallow to conclude that a law Congress made persuant to its Constitutional authority is somehow flawed. Not buying it at all, mate. You wanna prove Nancy Pelosi can't succeed to the Oval or that the next Vice-President of the US isn't a citizen, go tell it to a judge. Good luck with that.

Emperor Kanye


Kanyemperor.
NOTE: This nation's government style, policies, and opinions in roleplay or forum 7 does not represent my true beliefs. It is purely for the enjoyment of the game.

User avatar
San Lumen
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 81223
Founded: Jul 02, 2009
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:55 pm

Cisairse wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Emperor Kanye

Yes

By order of the galactic senate you are under arrest Chancellor.

Kanye: I am the senate.

User avatar
Telconi
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34903
Founded: Oct 08, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Telconi » Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:56 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Well people like to bring up the whole thing of "well if you don't vote you have no right to complain" (which makes no sense, but I won't get into that now), even though I haven't liked this country since I was a young boy.

We want to go on and on about personal freedoms, yet we'll do everything in our power to dictate others actions.

As a gay man I got equal rights by people voting. By not voting your putting that in jeopardy.


In the state I live in, you got those rights despite people voting.
-2.25 LEFT
-3.23 LIBERTARIAN

PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

User avatar
New haven america
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43452
Founded: Oct 08, 2012
Left-Leaning College State

Postby New haven america » Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:56 pm

Ranoria wrote:
New haven america wrote:1. You're the only person in this thread who isn't over Hillary, lol.
2. Technically speaking, no, they don't.
3. It's actually quite common for conservative leaders to be women, because people, especially those on the right, see them as generally less dangerous.

1: Ok, cool, so we've in agreement that you have no idea how the electoral college works. California doesn't matter, hilarious.
2: See, this is the thing. Electing women or people of color, setting policies to support people of color? Continuously trying to help the black community? You'll all just say "It's just for PR." Okay, so let me ask you this: When's the master plan, which must be a part of this, come into play? What's the end goal that requires doing so much for minorities, that could possibly be bad enough to make that worth it? It's ridiculous. You have to see that it's ridiculous.

But you don't think California's 55 electoral votes play a role in the election, either.

1. Neither does Texas. Do you have an actual point or...?
2. To gain equality and freedom for all of those in America regardless of class, race, sex/gender, sexuality, etc... You know, something America currently doesn't have and something most of the Republicans are generally against. Also, I'm not on the left so stop grouping we in with your bogeyman thank you.
Last edited by New haven america on Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:59 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Human of the male variety
Will accept TGs
Char/Axis 2024

That's all folks~

User avatar
Kowani
Post Czar
 
Posts: 44696
Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:57 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kowani wrote:Candace Owens has about as much chance in an electoral contest as a moldy sandwich.

They said the same about Trump.

If you think Candace Owens or Trump are comparable in any way, you have fundamentally failed your analysis of the Trump presidency.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

User avatar
Telconi
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34903
Founded: Oct 08, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Telconi » Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:58 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kowani wrote:Candace Owens has about as much chance in an electoral contest as a moldy sandwich.

They said the same about Trump.


And they were right.
-2.25 LEFT
-3.23 LIBERTARIAN

PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

User avatar
Tarsonis
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 27271
Founded: Sep 20, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Tarsonis » Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:58 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Except 12 pm the vice president would be sworn in in accordance with constitution. There would be no legal gap the next vice president would immediately assume the mantle of the presidency under the 25th amendment, until such time as a president can be appointed to take the role.

Did you stop reading my post right before I talk about the vice president


In your initial post you didn't suppose both would be vacant, just the presidency.
NS Keyboard Warrior since 2005
Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Galatians 6:7 " Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
1 Corinthians 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

User avatar
Major-Tom
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15670
Founded: Mar 09, 2016
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Major-Tom » Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:58 pm

I, for one, eagerly look forward to Prop 207 passing in AZ. Because reasons.

User avatar
San Lumen
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 81223
Founded: Jul 02, 2009
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:59 pm

Major-Tom wrote:I, for one, eagerly look forward to Prop 207 passing in AZ. Because reasons.

What is prop 207?

User avatar
Albrenia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16619
Founded: Aug 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Albrenia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:59 pm

Major-Tom wrote:I, for one, eagerly look forward to Prop 207 passing in AZ. Because reasons.


Because once again I am too lazy to look it up myself, what does Arizona Prop 207 do? Is it the gay marriage one?

User avatar
Ranoria
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19789
Founded: Mar 29, 2013
Capitalizt

Postby Ranoria » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:00 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ranoria wrote:1: Ok, cool, so we've in agreement that you have no idea how the electoral college works. California doesn't matter, hilarious.
2: See, this is the thing. Electing women or people of color, setting policies to support people of color? Continuously trying to help the black community? You'll all just say "It's just for PR." Okay, so let me ask you this: When's the master plan, which must be a part of this, come into play? What's the end goal that requires doing so much for minorities, that could possibly be bad enough to make that worth it? It's ridiculous. You have to see that it's ridiculous.

But you don't think California's 55 electoral votes play a role in the election, either.

1. Neither does Texas. Do you have an actual point or...?
2. To gain equality and freedom for all of those in America regardless of class, race, sex/gender, sexuality, etc... You know, something America currently doesn't have and something most of the Republicans generally against. Also, I'm not on the left so stop grouping we in with your bogeyman thank you.

Right. Everyone at those polls, we're thinking, "Yeah, let's elect a woman/black person, because that's what democrats don't like." You have to realize this makes no rational sense.

Wait wait hold up, so you're admitting that our (the right's) goal is to gain equality and such for everyone? I think we're having a breakthrough /s

Assuming you misinterpreted what I said. Systemic racism is a lie. To say that slavery has no consequences today would be nothing short of moronic, but to imply that skin color, slavery, and Jim Crow laws are the only factor is just as foolish. Personal decision making? There's one for ya.
Fan of football, the Murican kind. But soccer is cool too! Just not really my thing. C(:^D/-<
I go by Ran. Unless, of course, you want to type out Ranoria. That's your decision.
Lumi is my NS mom
NSCF 20, NSCF 22, NSCF 27, World Bowl 42, World Bowl 43

User avatar
Shrillland
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21036
Founded: Apr 12, 2010
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Shrillland » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:00 pm

Major-Tom wrote:I, for one, eagerly look forward to Prop 207 passing in AZ. Because reasons.


I wonder what those could be....

All I have is a lousy income tax measure myself.
How America Came to This, by Kowani: Racialised Politics, Ideological Media Gaslighting, and What It All Means For The Future
Plebiscite Plaza 2023
Confused by the names I use for House districts? Here's a primer!
In 1963, Doctor Who taught us all we need to know about politics when a cave woman said, "Old men see no further than tomorrow's meat".

User avatar
Telconi
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34903
Founded: Oct 08, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Telconi » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:00 pm

Major-Tom wrote:I, for one, eagerly look forward to Prop 207 passing in AZ. Because reasons.


If AZ is anything like here, your drug dealer doesn't.
-2.25 LEFT
-3.23 LIBERTARIAN

PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

User avatar
Tarsonis
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 27271
Founded: Sep 20, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Tarsonis » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:00 pm

Cisairse wrote:
US-SSR wrote:
All I see here is a lot of "probably" from one Republican legal eagle who Trump nominated to the Court of International Trade. That's a lot to swallow to conclude that a law Congress made persuant to its Constitutional authority is somehow flawed. Not buying it at all, mate. You wanna prove Nancy Pelosi can't succeed to the Oval or that the next Vice-President of the US isn't a citizen, go tell it to a judge. Good luck with that.

I am sure that plenty of people would tell it to plenty of judges, most likely 9, in the event that this happens.


don't they get around this by resigining?
NS Keyboard Warrior since 2005
Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Galatians 6:7 " Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
1 Corinthians 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

User avatar
Telconi
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34903
Founded: Oct 08, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Telconi » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:01 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:I, for one, eagerly look forward to Prop 207 passing in AZ. Because reasons.


Because once again I am too lazy to look it up myself, what does Arizona Prop 207 do? Is it the gay marriage one?


It's to let Tom smoke the devil's lettuce without the po po putting him in the pen.
-2.25 LEFT
-3.23 LIBERTARIAN

PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

User avatar
Major-Tom
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15670
Founded: Mar 09, 2016
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Major-Tom » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:01 pm

Telconi wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:I, for one, eagerly look forward to Prop 207 passing in AZ. Because reasons.


If AZ is anything like here, your drug dealer doesn't.


I can neither confirm nor deny that.

User avatar
US-SSR
Minister
 
Posts: 2313
Founded: Aug 02, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby US-SSR » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:01 pm

Rusozak wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Emperor Kanye


Kanyemperor.


Yeezemperor.
8:46

We're not going to control the pandemic!

It is a slaughter and not just a political dispute.

"The scraps of narcissism, the rotten remnants of conspiracy theories, the offal of sour grievance, the half-eaten bits of resentment flow by. They do not cohere. But they move in the same, insistent current of self, self, self."

User avatar
Major-Tom
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15670
Founded: Mar 09, 2016
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Major-Tom » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:01 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:I, for one, eagerly look forward to Prop 207 passing in AZ. Because reasons.


I wonder what those could be....

All I have is a lousy income tax measure myself.


Which entails?

Albrenia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:I, for one, eagerly look forward to Prop 207 passing in AZ. Because reasons.


Because once again I am too lazy to look it up myself, what does Arizona Prop 207 do? Is it the gay marriage one?


A proposition to ban same-sex divorce, correct.
Last edited by Major-Tom on Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
New haven america
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43452
Founded: Oct 08, 2012
Left-Leaning College State

Postby New haven america » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:02 pm

Prop 207 is for legal pot.

You're late Arizona, my state's already moved on to magic mushrooms.
Human of the male variety
Will accept TGs
Char/Axis 2024

That's all folks~

User avatar
Telconi
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34903
Founded: Oct 08, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Telconi » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:02 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Telconi wrote:
If AZ is anything like here, your drug dealer doesn't.


I can neither confirm nor deny that.


Literally everyone I knew who sold, and most who smoked, pot were straight up campaigning for no votes on the initiative here.
-2.25 LEFT
-3.23 LIBERTARIAN

PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

User avatar
Shrillland
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21036
Founded: Apr 12, 2010
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Shrillland » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:02 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
I wonder what those could be....

All I have is a lousy income tax measure myself.


Which entails?


Nothing, you just have a significant measure and I don't is what I was going for.
How America Came to This, by Kowani: Racialised Politics, Ideological Media Gaslighting, and What It All Means For The Future
Plebiscite Plaza 2023
Confused by the names I use for House districts? Here's a primer!
In 1963, Doctor Who taught us all we need to know about politics when a cave woman said, "Old men see no further than tomorrow's meat".

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Achan, Austria-Bohemia-Hungary, Belarusball, Cerespasia, Continental Free States, Dimetrodon Empire, Dogmeat, El Lazaro, Emotional Support Crocodile, Federation of Vanguard, Floofybit, Grinning Dragon, Ifreann, Improper Classifications, Kubra, Mertagne, Mithridatium, Neu California, Northern Seleucia, NS Jerusalem Israel, Samrif, The Republic of Western Sol, Unogonduria

Advertisement

Remove ads