2020 US General Election Thread X: For Those About to Vote

[US-SSR]

wot m8?



Congress decided the Speaker and President pro tem are third and fourth in line, ergo they are, QED.

You're missing the part where "Officer" is a defined term in the Constitution, and explicitly excludes members of Congress.

[citation needed]

Article I explicity states the House and Senate "shall choose their Officers," n'est ce pas?

[Cisairse]

You're missing the part where "Officer" is a defined term in the Constitution, and explicitly excludes members of Congress.

[citation needed]

Article I explicity states the House and Senate "shall choose their Officers," n'est ce pas?

Click the link I posted earlier, it explains it rather in depth.

[Tarsonis]

That is incorrect. Per the constitution, the house votes until a president is elected. The contingent election between Jefferson and burr took multiple ballots. Theoreticslly they could still be divided on inauguration day, if the senate has elected vice president, they would be sworn in and assume the presidency until such time a president is elected.

Actually you are incorrect. If the House does not decide on a president by January 20, Trump and Pence's terms end and the positions of president and vice-president become vacant.
That's where the constitutional crisis begins.

In the case of an EC tie, it is easy to imagine a Senate unable to decide on a VP either, especially in a (very likely) case where the Senate becomes 50-50 split.

Except 12 pm the vice president would be sworn in in accordance with constitution. There would be no legal gap the next vice president would immediately assume the mantle of the presidency under the 25th amendment, until such time as a president can be appointed to take the role.

[Cisairse]

Actually you are incorrect. If the House does not decide on a president by January 20, Trump and Pence's terms end and the positions of president and vice-president become vacant.
That's where the constitutional crisis begins.

In the case of an EC tie, it is easy to imagine a Senate unable to decide on a VP either, especially in a (very likely) case where the Senate becomes 50-50 split.

Except 12 pm the vice president would be sworn in in accordance with constitution. There would be no legal gap the next vice president would immediately assume the mantle of the presidency under the 25th amendment, until such time as a president can be appointed to take the role.

Did you stop reading my post right before I talk about the vice president

[Cisairse]

Anyway I literally cannot believe that we've had confirmed vote totals (16–9 Trump leading) for over 4 minutes and the Wikipedia editors haven't updated the page yet

[Ranoria]

1: Again, this is why states have their own powers. If those people have no power, then the cities run the country. And that's not right. It wouldn't end well, because different groups of people have different needs, you can't run the entire country based on how it will do well for a single demographic.

2: Not how that works. Being a solid state in a race does not mean a state doesn't have power. By that logic, California has no power, because no one needs to campaign there. California is the ace in the hole, though. And land area isn't all that is. States have powers and separate governments, varying laws. One example would be Illinois not respecting concealed carry permits of Ohio, at the very least. So...nope. Those states have a say. Their being solid in their opinion is just more evidence that they need the electoral college to ensure they have that voice heard.

3: I'm aware of when it was put into place. Implying that I support racist policies and the like is simply absurd. Slavery isn't a thing anymore thank god, and this narrative of 'systemic/systematic racism' is getting old. 4. We live in the most free country there ever was. Equality of opportunity.

1. This is also a fucking stupid argument. Cities can be conservative and rural areas can be liberal/progressive. Phoenix Arizona has ben historically conservative and the area I live in is rural and it's heavily progressive leaning. So please, get some new material, you guys have been repeating the same shit for 4 years now and it got old 4 years ago.

2. 100% how it works. Smaller states don't matter, swing states do. Sorry.

3. Well, you support the EC and presumably vote Republican, so it wouldn't be too far a stretch to believe that socioeconomic/racial/gender equality is too high up on your support/pro list.

4. Actually, those are the Fennoscandian countries. Norway, Sweden, and Finland.

1: Not the point. Different ways of life fam, whether they're conservative or liberal, they have different needs. And besides, if you want to talk about repeating the same stuff, you're still calling Trump racist with no basis, and you're only pissed about the EC because our beloved Hillary lost. (how the hell is she not in Federal prison, btw)

2: K, so California, New York don't matter either. Right.

3: And that's hilarious. God, I can't wait until the left collapses, because Trump is awesome, we get 8 years of Crenshaw, and then Candace Owens gets elected, see how the left tries to spin that. "Oh! She's a PR piece," I've heard that one before. Cardi B called her a traitor to her race lol, because she married a white man, least racist thing that she could possibly do. Again, the narrative that the right is racist and/or sexist is just wrong. And if we want to talk about slavery, guess what party Lincoln represented? Republican.

[Albrenia]

Anyway I literally cannot believe that we've had confirmed vote totals (16–9 Trump leading) for over 4 minutes and the Wikipedia editors haven't updated the page yet

Liberal media bias strikes again.

[Dominioan]

1. This is also a fucking stupid argument. Cities can be conservative and rural areas can be liberal/progressive. Phoenix Arizona has ben historically conservative and the area I live in is rural and it's heavily progressive leaning. So please, get some new material, you guys have been repeating the same shit for 4 years now and it got old 4 years ago.

2. 100% how it works. Smaller states don't matter, swing states do. Sorry.

3. Well, you support the EC and presumably vote Republican, so it wouldn't be too far a stretch to believe that socioeconomic/racial/gender equality is too high up on your support/pro list.

4. Actually, those are the Fennoscandian countries. Norway, Sweden, and Finland.

1: Not the point. Different ways of life fam, whether they're conservative or liberal, they have different needs. And besides, if you want to talk about repeating the same stuff, you're still calling Trump racist with no basis, and you're only pissed about the EC because our beloved Hillary lost. (how the hell is she not in Federal prison, btw)

2: K, so California, New York don't matter either. Right.

3: And that's hilarious. God, I can't wait until the left collapses, because Trump is awesome, we get 8 years of Crenshaw, and then Candace Owens gets elected, see how the left tries to spin that. "Oh! She's a PR piece," I've heard that one before. Cardi B called her a traitor to her race lol, because she married a white man, least racist thing that she could possibly do. Again, the narrative that the right is racist and/or sexist is just wrong. And if we want to talk about slavery, guess what party Lincoln represented? Republican.

Not the Lincoln republican thing

[New haven america]

1. This is also a fucking stupid argument. Cities can be conservative and rural areas can be liberal/progressive. Phoenix Arizona has ben historically conservative and the area I live in is rural and it's heavily progressive leaning. So please, get some new material, you guys have been repeating the same shit for 4 years now and it got old 4 years ago.

2. 100% how it works. Smaller states don't matter, swing states do. Sorry.

3. Well, you support the EC and presumably vote Republican, so it wouldn't be too far a stretch to believe that socioeconomic/racial/gender equality is too high up on your support/pro list.

4. Actually, those are the Fennoscandian countries. Norway, Sweden, and Finland.

1: Not the point. Different ways of life fam, whether they're conservative or liberal, they have different needs. And besides, if you want to talk about repeating the same stuff, you're still calling Trump racist with no basis, and you're only pissed about the EC because our beloved Hillary lost. (how the hell is she not in Federal prison, btw)

2: K, so California, New York don't matter either. Right.

3: And that's hilarious. God, I can't wait until the left collapses, because Trump is awesome, we get 8 years of Crenshaw, and then Candace Owens gets elected, see how the left tries to spin that. "Oh! She's a PR piece," I've heard that one before. Cardi B called her a traitor to her race lol, because she married a white man, least racist thing that she could possibly do. Again, the narrative that the right is racist and/or sexist is just wrong. And if we want to talk about slavery, guess what party Lincoln represented? Republican.

1. You're the only person in this thread who isn't over Hillary, lol.
2. Technically speaking, no, they don't.
3. It's actually quite common for conservative leaders to be women, because people, especially those on the right, see them as generally less dangerous.

[Cisairse]

incoming Kanye 49+dc victory in 3…2…1…

[Albrenia]

Kanye whatnow?

[New haven america]

Kanye whatnow?

Kanye West is a candidate of the Birthday Party.

[Dominioan]

Kanye whatnow?

Kanye West is a candidate.

#Kanye2020

What has the world come too

[Albrenia]

Kanye whatnow?

Kanye West is a candidate.

What a doofus.

[San Lumen]

incoming Kanye 49+dc victory in 3…2…1…

He’s not on the ballot in enough states to get to 270.

[Kowani]

3: And that's hilarious. God, I can't wait until the left collapses, because Trump is awesome, we get 8 years of Crenshaw, and then Candace Owens gets elected, see how the left tries to spin that. "Oh! She's a PR piece," I've heard that one before. Cardi B called her a traitor to her race lol, because she married a white man, least racist thing that she could possibly do. Again, the narrative that the right is racist and/or sexist is just wrong. And if we want to talk about slavery, guess what party Lincoln represented? Republican.

Candace Owens has about as much chance in an electoral contest as a moldy sandwich.

[Rusozak]

incoming Kanye 49+dc victory in 3…2…1…

Hate to break it to you,

[Cisairse]

incoming Kanye 49+dc victory in 3…2…1…

He’s not on the ballot in enough states to get to 270.

Neither was I in 2016, but that didn't stop me.

[San Lumen]

3: And that's hilarious. God, I can't wait until the left collapses, because Trump is awesome, we get 8 years of Crenshaw, and then Candace Owens gets elected, see how the left tries to spin that. "Oh! She's a PR piece," I've heard that one before. Cardi B called her a traitor to her race lol, because she married a white man, least racist thing that she could possibly do. Again, the narrative that the right is racist and/or sexist is just wrong. And if we want to talk about slavery, guess what party Lincoln represented? Republican.

Candace Owens has about as much chance in an electoral contest as a moldy sandwich.

They said the same about Trump.

[US-SSR]

[citation needed]

Article I explicity states the House and Senate "shall choose their Officers," n'est ce pas?

Click the link I posted earlier, it explains it rather in depth.

All I see here is a lot of "probably" from one Republican legal eagle who Trump nominated to the Court of International Trade. That's a lot to swallow to conclude that a law Congress made persuant to its Constitutional authority is somehow flawed. Not buying it at all, mate. You wanna prove Nancy Pelosi can't succeed to the Oval or that the next Vice-President of the US isn't a citizen, go tell it to a judge. Good luck with that.

[Albrenia]

incoming Kanye 49+dc victory in 3…2…1…

Hate to break it to you,

I, for one, support our new President.

He's President of the world now too, not just the US.

[San Lumen]

Click the link I posted earlier, it explains it rather in depth.

All I see here is a lot of "probably" from one Republican legal eagle who Trump nominated to the Court of International Trade. That's a lot to swallow to conclude that a law Congress made persuant to its Constitutional authority is somehow flawed. Not buying it at all, mate. You wanna prove Nancy Pelosi can't succeed to the Oval or that the next Vice-President of the US isn't a citizen, go tell it to a judge. Good luck with that.

Emperor Kanye

[Ranoria]

1: Not the point. Different ways of life fam, whether they're conservative or liberal, they have different needs. And besides, if you want to talk about repeating the same stuff, you're still calling Trump racist with no basis, and you're only pissed about the EC because our beloved Hillary lost. (how the hell is she not in Federal prison, btw)

2: K, so California, New York don't matter either. Right.

3: And that's hilarious. God, I can't wait until the left collapses, because Trump is awesome, we get 8 years of Crenshaw, and then Candace Owens gets elected, see how the left tries to spin that. "Oh! She's a PR piece," I've heard that one before. Cardi B called her a traitor to her race lol, because she married a white man, least racist thing that she could possibly do. Again, the narrative that the right is racist and/or sexist is just wrong. And if we want to talk about slavery, guess what party Lincoln represented? Republican.

1. You're the only person in this thread who isn't over Hillary, lol.
2. Technically speaking, no, they don't.
3. It's actually quite common for conservative leaders to be women, because people, especially those on the right, see them as generally less dangerous.

2: Ok, cool, so we've in agreement that you have no idea how the electoral college works. California doesn't matter, hilarious.
3: See, this is the thing. Electing women or people of color, setting policies to support people of color? Continuously trying to help the black community? You'll all just say "It's just for PR." Okay, so let me ask you this: When's the master plan, which must be a part of this, come into play? What's the end goal that requires doing so much for minorities, that could possibly be bad enough to make that worth it? It's ridiculous. You have to see that it's ridiculous.

But you don't think California's 55 electoral votes play a role in the election, either.

[New haven america]

Hate to break it to you,

I, for one, support our new President.

He's President of the world now too, not just the US.

I don't.

Libertarianism is ewwy.

[Cisairse]

Click the link I posted earlier, it explains it rather in depth.

All I see here is a lot of "probably" from one Republican legal eagle who Trump nominated to the Court of International Trade. That's a lot to swallow to conclude that a law Congress made persuant to its Constitutional authority is somehow flawed. Not buying it at all, mate. You wanna prove Nancy Pelosi can't succeed to the Oval or that the next Vice-President of the US isn't a citizen, go tell it to a judge. Good luck with that.

I am sure that plenty of people would tell it to plenty of judges, most likely 9, in the event that this happens.