2020 US General Election Thread X: For Those About to Vote

[Torisakia]

I am in prison. It's the prison called "life".

Ok and if you haven't committed certain crimes you therefore can vote unless your underage. I therefore don't buy your not allowed to vote.

Well you can't prove any of that beyond a reasonable doubt, so you'll just have to take my word for it.

Take your pick.


1. That's 5 minutes too long, honestly. 2. I can do a lot in that 5 minutes. 3. Also I plan to leave the country sometime within the next 4 years anyway so whether or not me voting or not voting completely fucks the US (which is impossible to do given that it's already fucked beyond all repair) is no skin off my nose.

1. This apathy is what got Trump and Bush into office.
2. Like register to vote.
3. Most countries have banned Americans from traveling to them because of how Trump is handling the pandemic.

That 5 minutes could be spent doing something more meaningful, like stapling my genitals to the ceiling, cutting myself with a thin sheet of paper, and dousing myself in isopropyl alcohol. If that's apathy, then so be it. The tl;dr of it is I just really don't care.

And if the pandemic is still going on in 4 years, then I doubt there will be any humans left to prevent me from traveling.

[Cultural Posadism]

I will never get over the fact that, by and large, South America currently has far better electoral systems than the United States.

I don't need to register to vote because I'm registered the moment I turn 18. Gerrymandering is not a thing. The electoral college is not a thing. Turnout is not an issue because voting is compulsory. We don't have to worry about voting machines being hacked or fucking up because we don't use them. Provincial and municipal governments don't get to fuck around with the number and locations of voting places. Voting places are guarded by the military, as are ballots, to prevent any shenanigans. Election day is a national holiday and always takes place on a Sunday to boot. And while I do have to present an ID to vote, t's a national ID that's easily and cheaply issued to everyone.

[Cisairse]

today's the day

[New haven america]

Ok and if you haven't committed certain crimes you therefore can vote unless your underage. I therefore don't buy your not allowed to vote.

Well you can't prove any of that beyond a reasonable doubt, so you'll just have to take my word for it.

1. This apathy is what got Trump and Bush into office.
2. Like register to vote.
3. Most countries have banned Americans from traveling to them because of how Trump is handling the pandemic.

1. That 5 minutes could be spent doing something more meaningful, like stapling my genitals to the ceiling, cutting myself with a thin sheet of paper, and dousing myself in isopropyl alcohol. If that's apathy, then so be it. The tl;dr of it is I just really don't care.

2. And if the pandemic is still going on in 4 years, then I doubt there will be any humans left to prevent me from traveling.

1. Thank you for proving my point.
2. Probably will if you don't vote against Trump.

[San Lumen]

Ok and if you haven't committed certain crimes you therefore can vote unless your underage. I therefore don't buy your not allowed to vote.

Well you can't prove any of that beyond a reasonable doubt, so you'll just have to take my word for it.

1. This apathy is what got Trump and Bush into office.
2. Like register to vote.
3. Most countries have banned Americans from traveling to them because of how Trump is handling the pandemic.

That 5 minutes could be spent doing something more meaningful, like stapling my genitals to the ceiling, cutting myself with a thin sheet of paper, and dousing myself in isopropyl alcohol. If that's apathy, then so be it. The tl;dr of it is I just really don't care.

And if the pandemic is still going on in 4 years, then I doubt there will be any humans left to prevent me from traveling.

Using Occam's Razor the only other explanation is that your not of the legal age to vote.

The pandemic will not be still going on in four years.

[Penguin Union Nation]

That 5 minutes could be spent doing something more meaningful, like stapling my genitals to the ceiling

In only five minutes? Now that's industrious.

[Ranoria]

It was indeed, yes.

2008	229,945,000	57.1%
2012	235,248,000	54.9%
2016	250,056,000	55.5%

Obama won in a landslide in 2008, with 365 electoral votes and 69 mil popular, (10 mil more than friggin dirty McCain) and then 332/65,446,032(beat Romney by about 5 mil),in 2012. Hillary's margins in the popular vote are adorable by comparison. Hillary got 65,845,063 to Trump's 62,980,160.

So Hillary got more than Obama's 2012 reelection (albeit barely), not as many as he did in 2008. But her margins weren't even close.

EDIT for note: this is all per 270 to win.

Oh hey, thanks. So it was record setting in numbers alone, but not percentages. I did not know that.

Edit: Another note: Our population increased by about 9.2 mil between 2012 and 2016. 14.5 mil between the years that would have correlated to people becoming eligible to vote between 2012 and 2016. So no on voter apathy.

Also threw this in afterwards. So if voter apathy got Trump in, it got Obama re-elected in 2012 as well.^

Well you can't prove any of that beyond a reasonable doubt, so you'll just have to take my word for it.


That 5 minutes could be spent doing something more meaningful, like stapling my genitals to the ceiling, cutting myself with a thin sheet of paper, and dousing myself in isopropyl alcohol. If that's apathy, then so be it. The tl;dr of it is I just really don't care.

And if the pandemic is still going on in 4 years, then I doubt there will be any humans left to prevent me from traveling.

Using Occam's Razor the only other explanation is that your not of the legal age to vote.

The pandemic will not be still going on in four years.

if Biden gets elected and isn't as active in supporting a vaccine, who knows. Because remember, our immune systems can't fight this...right?

[San Lumen]

Yeah, after some more thought I think I'll just do Huey Long to make it a true protest vote.

And what purpose does that serve?

[Cisairse]

final prediction

[Tarsonis]

I will never get over the fact that, by and large, South America currently has far better electoral systems than the United States.

I don't need to register to vote because I'm registered the moment I turn 18. Gerrymandering is not a thing. The electoral college is not a thing. Turnout is not an issue because voting is compulsory. We don't have to worry about voting machines being hacked or fucking up because we don't use them. Election day is a national holiday and always takes place on a Sunday to boot. And while I do have to present an ID to vote, t's a national ID that's easily and cheaply issued to everyone.

here you seem like you want this

[Cultural Posadism]

Also, I hope that someday the US joins the rest of the civilized world in rejecting electronic voting.

[US-SSR]

Well you are wrong.

The Electoral College doesn't take the Popular Vote into account. Trump lost the PV by almost 2 million+ but won the EC cause people in key states who should've voted sat out, leading to Trump winning the EC due to voter apathy and thus becoming the President.

Here's some advice: If you want to rail against the system, learn how the system works first.

The electoral college ensures that New York City and California don't run the country on their own, same concept as the Senate. You can't have the cities ruling the nation with no consideration for other groups. See: Czechoslovakia. Getting rid of said college would put a ton of states in a position where their populations are, in essence, powerless.

Now, you could argue: Who cares! The candidate most popular with the people should win. Well guess what kids, that's why we have state's rights. Some states do stuff, as a matter of fact, in direct opposition to the federal government. New Jersey, NY, California? Liberal as can be, (and California is an absolute dumpster fire), so everyone can be governed in a way they chose to be.

This "big states might run things" dog don't hunt. The major differences in the US today aren't between the 99 percent in NY, CA and FL and the 99 percent in ND, NB and OK, they're between the 1 percent and the 99 percent in the 50 states and the District of Columbia.

[Cultural Posadism]

Well you are wrong.

The Electoral College doesn't take the Popular Vote into account. Trump lost the PV by almost 2 million+ but won the EC cause people in key states who should've voted sat out, leading to Trump winning the EC due to voter apathy and thus becoming the President.

Here's some advice: If you want to rail against the system, learn how the system works first.

The electoral college ensures that New York City and California don't run the country on their own, same concept as the Senate. You can't have the cities ruling the nation with no consideration for other groups.

So you support affirmative action for people in rural areas?

That seems kinda sus to me dude.

[Tarsonis]

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final prediction

thats actually not out of the realm of possibility.

[San Lumen]

Oh hey, thanks. So it was record setting in numbers alone, but not percentages. I did not know that.

Edit: Another note: Our population increased by about 9.2 mil between 2012 and 2016. 14.5 mil between the years that would have correlated to people becoming eligible to vote between 2012 and 2016. So no on voter apathy.

Also threw this in afterwards. So if voter apathy got Trump in, it got Obama re-elected in 2012 as well.^

Using Occam's Razor the only other explanation is that your not of the legal age to vote.

The pandemic will not be still going on in four years.

if Biden gets elected and isn't as active in supporting a vaccine, who knows. Because remember, our immune systems can't fight this...right?

It will be long over by 2024 regardless of who wins.

[Torisakia]

Well you can't prove any of that beyond a reasonable doubt, so you'll just have to take my word for it.


1. That 5 minutes could be spent doing something more meaningful, like stapling my genitals to the ceiling, cutting myself with a thin sheet of paper, and dousing myself in isopropyl alcohol. If that's apathy, then so be it. The tl;dr of it is I just really don't care.

2. And if the pandemic is still going on in 4 years, then I doubt there will be any humans left to prevent me from traveling.

1. Thank you for proving my point.
2. Probably will if you don't vote against Trump.

You're welcome. I'd rather die than have to vote. And again, if I plan to leave the country anyway then there's no sense in me voting because I won't have the misfortune of being here during that time.

So if I don't vote against him, what I said about there being no humans left stands. If I do, then the pandemic likely ends between now and four years. So I win either way.

[Albrenia]

final prediction

You monster.

[San Lumen]

1. Thank you for proving my point.
2. Probably will if you don't vote against Trump.

You're welcome. I'd rather die than have to vote. And again, if I plan to leave the country anyway then there's no sense in me voting because I won't have the misfortune of being here during that time.

So if I don't vote against him, what I said about there being no humans left stands. If I do, then the pandemic likely ends between now and four years. So I win either way.

so which is it? You legally can't vote or simply don't want too?

[Cultural Posadism]

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final prediction

thats actually not out of the realm of possibility.

538 gives it a 1/100 chance of happening.

[Cultural Posadism]

I will never get over the fact that, by and large, South America currently has far better electoral systems than the United States.

I don't need to register to vote because I'm registered the moment I turn 18. Gerrymandering is not a thing. The electoral college is not a thing. Turnout is not an issue because voting is compulsory. We don't have to worry about voting machines being hacked or fucking up because we don't use them. Election day is a national holiday and always takes place on a Sunday to boot. And while I do have to present an ID to vote, t's a national ID that's easily and cheaply issued to everyone.

here you seem like you want this

yummy

[Torisakia]

You're welcome. I'd rather die than have to vote. And again, if I plan to leave the country anyway then there's no sense in me voting because I won't have the misfortune of being here during that time.

So if I don't vote against him, what I said about there being no humans left stands. If I do, then the pandemic likely ends between now and four years. So I win either way.

so which is it? You legally can't vote or simply don't want too?

Yes.

[San Lumen]

thats actually not out of the realm of possibility.

538 gives it a 1/100 chance of happening.

I dont see it as likely and a contingent election in the House would a absolute unmitigated disaster given how so many don't understand how it works. Each individual member doesnt get a vote. Each state delegation as a whole gets one vote.

[Ranoria]

thats actually not out of the realm of possibility.

538 gives it a 1/100 chance of happening.

Someone told me Nancy Pelosi becomes president if that happens. I thought it came down to the popular vote, but jesus. shudders

That would make me consider emigrating.

[Albrenia]

Geezums, leave Torisakia alone. I'm one of those 'voting is a duty' people and even I can see they don't want to vote, and in the US that's their choice.

[San Lumen]

so which is it? You legally can't vote or simply don't want too?

Yes.

Yes to which?