2020 US General Election Thread X: For Those About to Vote

[San Lumen]

It was one of the closest but not the closest ever statewide election in US history. There are two contenders for that depending on your point of view.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1839_Mass ... l_election
The first being the 1839 Massachusetts governor election. State law required that candidates get a majority of the vote. Marcus Morton exceeded that threshold by a single vote over incumbent Edward Everett.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1912_Kans ... l_election
The second is the 1912 Kanas governor election. George H. Hodges defeated the popular Republican Arthur Capper by a razor-thin margin of 29 votes out of 359,684 cast

Marcus Morton defeated Everett by 309 votes, not one. Morton received 50% of the votes cast plus one. It's in the Wiki article you linked.

Yes however had he gotten one less vote he would not have received a majority of votes and the Whig controlled state legislature would have decided the election. Hence why I said depending on your point of view.

[Farnhamia]

Marcus Morton defeated Everett by 309 votes, not one. Morton received 50% of the votes cast plus one. It's in the Wiki article you linked.

Yes however had he gotten one less vote he would not have received a majority of votes and the Whig controlled state legislature would have decided the election. Hence why I said depending on your point of view.

You obviously forgot that my point of view is the only one that matters.

[The Black Forrest]

It’s easy to declare yourself right. That’s ok. You do generate laughs.

With that out of the way, you can actually try defending your argument and explain how charter schools offer a weaker education, or why deregulation is bad. Testing is not the issue, but the way it's done in the US is insane.

Here you go. Forgot this article. Had to look for it.

https://www.gse.harvard.edu/news/ed/17/ ... er-schools

[Greater Miami Shores]

AWWW! You wrecked your POE with a star wars reference! I was borderline thinking you were serious.

Everyone has the right to at least one pop-culture reference in a debate.

If I ever see any fellow Republicans at a Trump Rally or near a Trump Rally, disrespecting with personal insults, foul language and with the finger any Biden supporter, I will stand up for them, I will defend them.

GMS.

You'll defend the Biden supporters?

Yes I will, I have posted a few times, I went up to 2 Pro Biden Ladies counter demonstrating their support for Biden near a Trump rally, and said to them, I respect your democratic rights to be here with your signs in support of Biden like you are doing right here and now. They said thank you.

I said, the disrespect of this right, is the lack of freedom and democracy we don't have in my native Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela.

This respect is given it is not earned.

This Past Sunday, and I Posted about it, at a Trump rally, we had a large crowd, the Biden supporters were counter demonstrating at a small area near us with a smaller crowd. There were police officers cops, separating us from each other. I got close to the Biden side, I said to one of them, I respect your democratic rights to be here supporting Biden. But the guy did not hear me. A Lady Cop said to me, I heard what you said to him, you did not say anything bad, but we have to keep you guys apart, please move back to your area, which I did.

I will not let any fellow Republicans Trump supporters, disrespect with political insults, personal insults, foul language and the finger any Biden supporter, around me. So far I have not seen it happen at the peaceful Trump Rallies I have attended, on the Biden supporters who pass by us on cars and walking.

As has been done to me and us by many Democrat Biden supporters, but obviously not all.

I don't put any persons on ignore, because I strongly disagree with their views on Trump, Republicans, Biden, Democrats and any issues, for any reasons.

I respect all persons democratic rights to think differently than I do. I have to say it to them with respect, and I expect the same back from them.

This respect is given it is not earned.

Many on NS do not respect my democratic rights to think differently than they do on this issue, but they don't have a problem with me and my posts on other issues, go figure?

Republicans Trump supporters like Karelia and others don't have a problem with my views and posts. Because we agree with each other on most issues. I wonder why?

I am not politically stupid, I am not a Poe or a bot, but I really am very Tech Stupid.

I Rest My Case.

GMS.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Hmmm partially. Ever notice the verbiage of the republicans? They talk about throwing money at education and yet they always mention allocating funds to the military.

Charter schools are detrimental to the education of the people. They are not regulated and tend to offer a weaker education. Guess who fully supports charter schools?

Here is your chance. How have the republicans worked to improve education for the poor and as mentioned black communities?

The fact that charter schools are not regulated is a plus, not a detriment. Also, testing scores are a horrible method of determining quality of education.

That's anti-scientific. "Good intentions will produce good results, but it's necessary to abolish testing or else it won't work"

I am so glad you're not a teacher.

[Northern Davincia]

With that out of the way, you can actually try defending your argument and explain how charter schools offer a weaker education, or why deregulation is bad. Testing is not the issue, but the way it's done in the US is insane.

Here you go. Forgot this article. Had to look for it.

https://www.gse.harvard.edu/news/ed/17/ ... er-schools

Alright, now you can pull out the relevant details. The reality is that your dislike of charter schools is unfounded.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilylangh ... 2cedec759d

[Northern Davincia]

The fact that charter schools are not regulated is a plus, not a detriment. Also, testing scores are a horrible method of determining quality of education.

That's anti-scientific. "Good intentions will produce good results, but it's necessary to abolish testing or else it won't work"

I am so glad you're not a teacher.

Did I say anything about abolishing testing? I did not. Some countries do testing well, the US generally does not.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

That's anti-scientific. "Good intentions will produce good results, but it's necessary to abolish testing or else it won't work"

I am so glad you're not a teacher.

Did I say anything about abolishing testing? I did not. Some countries do testing well, the US generally does not.

So you'd let charter schools make up their own tests?

And because those are "good" tests and the public school ones are "bad" tests, there's no way of comparing them.

Is there any way that is going to end well?







Also, isn't there an International Baccalaureate for HS students, which uses the same test in every country ..?

[Northern Davincia]

Did I say anything about abolishing testing? I did not. Some countries do testing well, the US generally does not.

So you'd let charter schools make up their own tests?

And because those are "good" tests and the public school ones are "bad" tests, there's no way of comparing them.

Is there any way that is going to end well?

I would let charter schools make their own tests, and parents will be the judge of quality. If they disapprove, they will take their child out of the school and send them to another one. Charter school tests are not inherently good or bad, and neither are those of public schools, but testing itself is a troublesome measure of learning.

[The Black Forrest]

Here you go. Forgot this article. Had to look for it.

https://www.gse.harvard.edu/news/ed/17/ ... er-schools

Alright, now you can pull out the relevant details. The reality is that your dislike of charter schools is unfounded.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilylangh ... 2cedec759d

You didn’t even read mine. I read yours.....

[San Lumen]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/2 ... net-429972

Biden eyes Republicans for potential cabinet picks. some of the people being considered are Quibi CEL Meg Whitman, Former Ohio Governor John Kasich, MA Governor Charlie Baker, Former Rep Charlie Dent, and former Senator Jeff Flake.

It is common for a transition team to start vetting people before an election. I hope election day is a blowout for Biden.

[Corrian]

https://www.nwprogressive.org/weblog/2020/10/jay-inslee-leads-loren-culp-by-sixteen-points-in-washingtons-2020-gubernatorial-race.html

Governor Jay Inslee of Washington leads his opponent Loren Culp 56-40. If Victorious it would be his third term.

Should be a wider margin, but I'll take it.

[Post War America]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/20/biden-transition-republican-cabinet-429972

Biden eyes Republicans for potential cabinet picks. some of the people being considered are Quibi CEL Meg Whitman, Former Ohio Governor John Kasich, MA Governor Charlie Baker, Former Rep Charlie Dent, and former Senator Jeff Flake.

It is common for a transition team to start vetting people before an election. I hope election day is a blowout for Biden.

This has already been posted, you responded to it even.

[Corrian]

https://www.nwprogressive.org/weblog/2020/10/jay-inslee-leads-loren-culp-by-sixteen-points-in-washingtons-2020-gubernatorial-race.html

Governor Jay Inslee of Washington leads his opponent Loren Culp 56-40. If Victorious it would be his third term.

Disappointing. Inslee has been a less than effective governor.

Culp's a moron though.

[San Lumen]

Disappointing. Inslee has been a less than effective governor.

Culp's a moron though.

Republicans seem to like nominating inept people. They nominated a flat earther for senate in Delaware.

[Northern Davincia]

Alright, now you can pull out the relevant details. The reality is that your dislike of charter schools is unfounded.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilylangh ... 2cedec759d

You didn’t even read mine. I read yours.....

Your article demonstrates that not all charter schools are the same, which everyone knew already. I would not point out the worst offenses of public schools and hoist them up as the standard. The fact that a poorly-performing charter school can close and a poorly-performing public school cannot is a key difference here. The market chooses the fittest one to survive as justly as nature does in the ecosystem.

[Telconi]

Culp's a moron though.

Republicans seem to like nominating inept people. They nominated a flat earther for senate in Delaware.

The chances of the Senate decided what geometric shape the earth is seem awfully low.

[Shrillland]

Spencer Cox and Chris Peterson, the two major party candidates for Governor of Utah, have just released a joint ad calling for civility and acceptance after the election: https://theweek.com/speedreads/944806/utahs-democratic-republican-candidates-governor-release-joint-ad-urging-civility-fair-election

[Stylan]

Honestly, either Trump or Biden could win. I feel like the polls may be more accurate this time, but.... who knows.

The Dems will 100 percent win senate tho.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

. The reality is that fascism has a strict definition

Not really, fascism at its core is authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial control, suppression of opposition, strong regimentation of society and opposition to liberal democracy so not all that strict, add the elements of racial supremacy, populism, xenophobia and nativism that neo-fascism brings to the table and it makes the definition even less strict.

[The Black Forrest]

You didn’t even read mine. I read yours.....

Your article demonstrates that not all charter schools are the same, which everyone knew already. I would not point out the worst offenses of public schools and hoist them up as the standard. The fact that a poorly-performing charter school can close and a poorly-performing public school cannot is a key difference here. The market chooses the fittest one to survive as justly as nature does in the ecosystem.

Ok. So you scanned it. I was waiting for the “free market” argument.

How do you handle the disruption for the students over the failed schools?

[San Lumen]

Honestly, either Trump or Biden could win. I feel like the polls may be more accurate this time, but.... who knows.

The Dems will 100 percent win senate tho.

The senate isnt flipping if Trump wins reelection

[Stylan]

Honestly, either Trump or Biden could win. I feel like the polls may be more accurate this time, but.... who knows.

The Dems will 100 percent win senate tho.

The senate isnt flipping if Trump wins reelection

Ehhhhh

Why do you say that?

[San Lumen]

The senate isnt flipping if Trump wins reelection

Ehhhhh

Why do you say that?

Because almost all of the competitive seats are in states Trump won.

[Corrian]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/20/biden-transition-republican-cabinet-429972

Biden eyes Republicans for potential cabinet picks. some of the people being considered are Quibi CEL Meg Whitman, Former Ohio Governor John Kasich, MA Governor Charlie Baker, Former Rep Charlie Dent, and former Senator Jeff Flake.

It is common for a transition team to start vetting people before an election. I hope election day is a blowout for Biden.

Ew, why does he need to give fuel for the "He's gonna be a Republican!" crowd? And Meg Whitman of all people? Gross.