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Who Do You Support in the 2020 General Election?

Donald Trump (R)
147
29%
Joe Biden (D)
276
54%
Howie Hawkins (G)
59
12%
Jo Jorgensen (L)
27
5%
 
Total votes : 509

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Postby Torisakia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:22 pm

Heloin wrote:
Torisakia wrote:That and you can't go on any website, regardless of its main content, without seeing his name. I personally take a shot every time I see someone on Modern Warfare with the clan tag "TRUMP" or "MAGA".

Sounds like a quick road to alcohol poisoning.

I do so in hopes that I permanently black out and no longer have to continue to experience this world we're in right now. Unfortunately it hasn't worked yet.
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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:22 pm

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Undoubtedly: we'll see tomorrow whether America has learn its lesson, or double down, the latter will certainly be detrimental to this great nation. Either way, it's going to an exciting but tense, anxious, nervous, and stressful day.


Thankfully I sleep through most of it, waking to see the actual results coming in. Perhaps get a large bottle of vodka and try do the same.


Not a big drinker but I will be staying up as long as I can though I do have an early morning flight to Florida the next day so, sleep will be important for me...

But in any case, wish us the best of luck here: we're going to need it.
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:24 pm

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Thankfully I sleep through most of it, waking to see the actual results coming in. Perhaps get a large bottle of vodka and try do the same.


Not a big drinker but I will be staying up as long as I can though I do have an early morning flight to Florida the next day so, sleep will be important for me...

But in any case, wish us the best of luck here: we're going to need it.


Well quite, I like liking America, I want to like America, this past 4 years has been depressing.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:24 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Undoubtedly: we'll see tomorrow whether America has learn its lesson, or double down, the latter will certainly be detrimental to this great nation. Either way, it's going to an exciting but tense, anxious, nervous, and stressful day.


Thankfully I sleep through most of it, waking to see the actual results coming in. Perhaps get a large bottle of vodka and try do the same.

Call me superstitious, but I'm not sleeping during the election after I did that in 2016. I learned from my past mistakes.
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Postby Torisakia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:24 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Same story, different year for me. I'm not legally allowed to vote so I can't really argue for or against any further.

I can't vote either, but I have my beliefs anyway. :lol2:

Even if I was allowed to vote again, I wouldn't actually vote for any of the candidates. I'd just write-in someone like Godzilla or Long Arm Larry. Now those guys are fit for president.
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Postby Shrillland » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:26 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Thankfully I sleep through most of it, waking to see the actual results coming in. Perhaps get a large bottle of vodka and try do the same.

Call me superstitious, but I'm not sleeping during the election after I did that in 2016. I learned from my past mistakes.


I'll probably be up until 4 AM or thereabouts because if we don't have the conclusion by then, we won't until Friday or Saturday.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:28 pm

Torisakia wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I can't vote either, but I have my beliefs anyway. :lol2:

Even if I was allowed to vote again, I wouldn't actually vote for any of the candidates. I'd just write-in someone like Godzilla or Long Arm Larry. Now those guys are fit for president.

That's a wasted vote.

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Geneviev wrote:Call me superstitious, but I'm not sleeping during the election after I did that in 2016. I learned from my past mistakes.


I'll probably be up until 4 AM or thereabouts because if we don't have the conclusion by then, we won't until Friday or Saturday.

That sounds about right. I will probably stay awake until there is a winner or I need to get ready for school, whichever is first.
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:30 pm

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I read it should be rather speedy actually. Not night-of results like we're used to but probably not a month long nightmare like I originally feared. I heard to expect a clear result within a week. Now, contention and post-election drama is another story. No matter the number the results are going to be challenged pretty much until inauguration day.

Even a few hours would be unbearable with an election like this. A week would be terrible. It is to be expected, but it would be terrible.


I want to see this week's alcohol sales when this is done. Should show a good uptick.
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Postby Heloin » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:31 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Even if I was allowed to vote again, I wouldn't actually vote for any of the candidates. I'd just write-in someone like Godzilla or Long Arm Larry. Now those guys are fit for president.

That's a wasted vote.

The only wasted vote is one that isn't cast.

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Postby Geneviev » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:32 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Even a few hours would be unbearable with an election like this. A week would be terrible. It is to be expected, but it would be terrible.


I want to see this week's alcohol sales when this is done. Should show a good uptick.

That's pretty likely. My family is already interested in ice cream sales, too.
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Postby Torisakia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:33 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Even if I was allowed to vote again, I wouldn't actually vote for any of the candidates. I'd just write-in someone like Godzilla or Long Arm Larry. Now those guys are fit for president.

That's a wasted vote.

Well so is voting for whatever two bozos are on the ballot, so it kinda balances out.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:34 pm

Heloin wrote:
Geneviev wrote:That's a wasted vote.

The only wasted vote is one that isn't cast.


I live in California, the only wasted vote is one that isn't cast for Joe Biden.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:34 pm

Torisakia wrote:
Geneviev wrote:That's a wasted vote.

Well so is voting for whatever two bozos are on the ballot, so it kinda balances out.

That is at least a vote that will affect the election.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:36 pm

Heloin wrote:
Geneviev wrote:That's a wasted vote.

The only wasted vote is one that isn't cast.


Or isn't counted. There should be an option to have your vote displayed on a website, so you could check it was recorded properly.
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:37 pm

Torisakia wrote:
Geneviev wrote:That's a wasted vote.

Well so is voting for whatever two bozos are on the ballot, so it kinda balances out.


Here - read up on Biden's plans and let us know specifically what you don't like.

I'd share Trump's for balance but Trump doesn't actually have any plans on his website. That alone should tell you all you need to know about him.
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Postby Torisakia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:37 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Well so is voting for whatever two bozos are on the ballot, so it kinda balances out.

That is at least a vote that will affect the election.

The way I see it, that just means that we either get dumbass #1 or dumbass #2. It's basically the same thing. So there really isn't much of a change.

And Godzilla would be a much better president than both Trump and Biden in a potara fusion.
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Postby Ranoria » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:38 pm

Tucker Carlson after playing a couple clips of Joe Biden being absolutely unintelligible at his ‘rallies:’ “Poor guy, why does wife let him run?”

Hilarious.

Edit: one of the clips
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Postby Torisakia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:40 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Well so is voting for whatever two bozos are on the ballot, so it kinda balances out.


Here - read up on Biden's plans and let us know specifically what you don't like.

I'd share Trump's for balance but Trump doesn't actually have any plans on his website. That alone should tell you all you need to know about him.

Well first off I'm immediately greeted by a plea for donations when I click on that link, so that's already off-putting.

His plans look almost verbatim to that of Obama's (which makes sense given he was his VP). It's the same copy-paste stuff we get from every Democratic candidate every election. "Fix the economy", "Give Affordable Healthcare". Has someone been counting how many times any of them have actually delivered on those promises.

Same with Trump, more or less.
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Postby Heloin » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:41 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Well so is voting for whatever two bozos are on the ballot, so it kinda balances out.

That is at least a vote that will affect the election.

If that's the metric that you measure a wasted vote then any vote that isn't for the winning candidate was wasted.

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Postby Torisakia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:42 pm

Heloin wrote:
Geneviev wrote:That is at least a vote that will affect the election.

If that's the metric that you measure a wasted vote then any vote that isn't for the winning candidate was wasted.

That's how it works. We encourage everyone to vote and have a voice, but only for the candidate I want.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:43 pm

Torisakia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Here - read up on Biden's plans and let us know specifically what you don't like.

I'd share Trump's for balance but Trump doesn't actually have any plans on his website. That alone should tell you all you need to know about him.

Well first off I'm immediately greeted by a plea for donations when I click on that link, so that's already off-putting.

His plans look almost verbatim to that of Obama's (which makes sense given he was his VP). It's the same copy-paste stuff we get from every Democratic candidate every election. "Fix the economy", "Give Affordable Healthcare". Has someone been counting how many times any of them have actually delivered on those promises.

Same with Trump, more or less.

He wouldn't have to make plans for that if a certain Republican President didn't get elected due to voter apathy now, would he?
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Postby Torisakia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:44 pm

New haven america wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Well first off I'm immediately greeted by a plea for donations when I click on that link, so that's already off-putting.

His plans look almost verbatim to that of Obama's (which makes sense given he was his VP). It's the same copy-paste stuff we get from every Democratic candidate every election. "Fix the economy", "Give Affordable Healthcare". Has someone been counting how many times any of them have actually delivered on those promises.

Same with Trump, more or less.

He wouldn't have to make plans for that if a certain Republican President didn't get elected due to voter apathy now, would he?

Pretty certain he got elected because people voted for him. I thought that was how the system worked. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:46 pm

Torisakia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Here - read up on Biden's plans and let us know specifically what you don't like.

I'd share Trump's for balance but Trump doesn't actually have any plans on his website. That alone should tell you all you need to know about him.

Well first off I'm immediately greeted by a plea for donations when I click on that link, so that's already off-putting.

His plans look almost verbatim to that of Obama's (which makes sense given he was his VP). It's the same copy-paste stuff we get from every Democratic candidate every election. "Fix the economy", "Give Affordable Healthcare". Has someone been counting how many times any of them have actually delivered on those promises.

Same with Trump, more or less.


When Obama took over the presidency the economy was fucked, so yeah I'd pretty much say he fixed it. He also delivered on healthcare, perhaps not perfect but partly because he asked a bipartisan congress to create one.

And no, not same as Trump, he has no plans to deliver on and he doesn't deliver anyway. He had Congress, he couldn't pass healthcare, he could hardly pass anything, his entire presidency has been by EO.

Where's the wall, did Mexico pay for it, whereas the big beautiful healthcare plan, where's the plan for the environment beyond just cutting regulations and leaving global bodies and treaties, where's an education plan..

..where's anything but his blathering lies?
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Postby New haven america » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:47 pm

Torisakia wrote:
New haven america wrote:He wouldn't have to make plans for that if a certain Republican President didn't get elected due to voter apathy now, would he?

Pretty certain he got elected because people voted for him. I thought that was how the system worked. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Well you are wrong.

The Electoral College doesn't take the Popular Vote into account. Trump lost the PV by almost 2 million+ but won the EC cause people in key states who should've voted sat out, leading to Trump winning the EC due to voter apathy and thus becoming the President.

Here's some advice: If you want to rail against the system, learn how the system works first.
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Postby Torisakia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:49 pm

New haven america wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Pretty certain he got elected because people voted for him. I thought that was how the system worked. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Well you are wrong.

The Electoral doesn't take the Popular Vote into account. Trump lost the PV by almost 2 million+ but won the EC cause people in key states who should've voted sat out, leading to Trump winning the EC due to voter apathy and thus becoming the President.

Here's some advice, if you want to rail against the system, learn how the system works first.

Given that I like in a die-hard Republican state, it would actually be a wasted vote to vote for the Democratic candidate because, as far as I know, our electors can still vote for the Republican candidate even if they lose the popular vote in-state.

The fact that I can't even understand the system shows just how fucked up it is.
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