2020 US General Election Thread X: For Those About to Vote

[Jerzylvania]

BTW, how do you like my Flag?

Seems an easy choice but some people may prefer to be eaten by the grue waiting for them in that creepy path.

Hmph. Well, I chose the Horsey cartoon. I liked it best.

It takes all kinds. Maybe, just maybe... Election Day is too damn close to Halloween?

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Not so much their tactics?

Personally I regret the way Democrats dumb down policies and make them emotive. But parties here do the same, and for the left of center parties it's about trying to hold onto their old base of working class, unionists and minorities. In the latter case I guess it makes sense, given that some of them don't have a firm grasp of English. But the working class aren't illiterate, or dumb, and haven't been since the second world war. I guess in the US there's no danger of left-leaning intelligentsia and professional voting otherwise, they know the policies and don't need to be campaigned to. So "explain it like I'm five" doesn't lose their votes. Still, surely there are lower income people who would find that patronizing?

The American working class as well as the middle class are, by and large, not masterfully educated. It's entirely necessary that matters of grave importance are simplified for them so they do not approach these subjects from a place of misconception. While the working class and middle class are not illiterate, they are generally not experts of particular disciplines.

Wow, that's from page 14. Awesome digging there!

Maybe if they expressed themselves in text more often, they could use links to explain in more detail what they mean by "middle class families" or "tax cuts for everyone". Am I part of a family? Sure if you're announcing a child benefit increase, I don't resent that families are getting more money for having young children, but I do feel resentful that they're using the emotive word in a way that doesn't apply to my family. And tax cuts for people who don't pay income tax? Saying "everyone" is just a lie.

Actually, politicians could link to all that detail and explanation with a little screen on their lapel. Flash up a URL in QR code on that, maybe have buttons on it the politician pushes so it's clear they're controlling it, not the other way around ...

[Albrenia]

After this pandemic shit's over, there's plenty of other nice places to live if you're seriously considering moving.

I'd say Australia, but I'm biased because we're awesome despite our fucking hilarious politics.

I mean, your politics are a farce. We all know the emus took over like, almost a century ago at this point. (I presume you're aware of the Great Emu War?)

Emus destroyed an armored truck killed...2-3 soldiers, I think? Reports vary between 10 and 100 emus having been killed by the Australian military, and I'd lowball that personally, assuming the CO wanted to make himself look better. Oh, and tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition were wasted iirc.

So yeah...we know who runs Australia.

I'm kidding...kinda. Numbers might be a bit off.

There was no Emu War. I am not being forced to type this.

I am not seeking new slaves for the Emulords.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Seems an easy choice but some people may prefer to be eaten by the grue waiting for them in that creepy path.

Hmph. Well, I chose the Horsey cartoon. I liked it best.

It takes all kinds. Maybe, just maybe... Election Day is too damn close to Halloween?

It’s a horror fest, to be sure. *nod*

[The Marlborough]

A lot of overseas Chinese in general vote Trump because they think Biden will be soft on China.

Even tho, ironically enough, Trump has been practically ceding geopolitical power to China his whole presidency.

In some places yes, in others no. Trump has sought to court both Vietnam and India and has been decent at doing that. Vietnam even pledged to try and reduce the trade imbalance between the US and Vietnam plus the Trump admin tried getting a waiver for Vietnam on certain sanctions that prevent them from selling tech to them, albeit unsuccessfully iirc because it needed the approval of Congress. He also came around to spending more money in Africa to counter Chinese influence. I will say he wasted too much time trying to court China which is going to be hard to do because the Europeans aren't interested in a strategic alliance to counter China.

[Jerzylvania]

BTW, how do you like my Flag?

The cave is more interesting though.

But eventually it depends on... if you can find your way out.

We're in too deep already.

[Jerzylvania]

Hmph. Well, I chose the Horsey cartoon. I liked it best.

It takes all kinds. Maybe, just maybe... Election Day is too damn close to Halloween?

It’s a horror fest, to be sure. *nod*

Indeed.

[The Black Forrest]

America's Foreign Enemies Mostly Hope for a Joe Biden Win

You know this president is improving America’s position on the world stage when our enemies want Biden to win

*shrugs* Our enemies might also be using the “Russia wants Biden to win so I better vote for Trump” propaganda.

Trump is struggling with the so called Boomer vote. They also remember the USSR so.....

Looking at it from an intelligence perspective; it makes sense they want a simpleton like Trump to be in charge.

Trump has greatly increased the position of Russia, China, Turkey and even North Korea.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

After this pandemic shit's over, there's plenty of other nice places to live if you're seriously considering moving.

I'd say Australia, but I'm biased because we're awesome despite our fucking hilarious politics.

I mean, your politics are a farce. We all know the emus took over like, almost a century ago at this point. (I presume you're aware of the Great Emu War?)

Emus destroyed an armored truck killed...2-3 soldiers, I think? Reports vary between 10 and 100 emus having been killed by the Australian military, and I'd lowball that personally, assuming the CO wanted to make himself look better. Oh, and tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition were wasted iirc.

So yeah...we know who runs Australia.

I'm kidding...kinda. Numbers might be a bit off.

The coat of arms has an Emu and a Kangaroo. I expect the 'roo is the brains of the outfit!

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Trump is struggling with the so called Boomer vote. They also remember the USSR so.....

If Biden wins I want to hear it from everyone:

Thanks, Boomer

[Torisakia]

I'm from Alabama, so I don't have it good either. I just tell people I'm stateless. I actually want to revoke my American citizenship at some point.

After this pandemic shit's over, there's plenty of other nice places to live if you're seriously considering moving.

I'd say Australia, but I'm biased because we're awesome despite our fucking hilarious politics.

At this point I'd rather live as a gay man in Saudi Arabia than live in the US. So any place is fine.

[Albrenia]

Not surprising Boomers would side with Biden, considering Trump's basically given them the Lord Farquaad treatment and said "Some of you will die, but that's a risk I'm willing to take".

[The Marlborough]

I don't really see how Trump has increased the position of NK in the world considering NK isn't really interested in spreading its influence all that much to begin with. The Trump administration being willing to accept NK as a nuclear power is one of the closer steps towards peace in US-NK relations in a long time. It's especially ridiculous when you consider that SK's own position has been to ease tensions without demanding denuclearization itself.

[San Lumen]

You have said votes of those who dont share your values shouldnt be able to vote and that a peaceful transfer of power shouldn't be respected.

How is that unequal?

The answer ought to be obvious.

[The Black Forrest]

BTW, how do you like my Flag?

Seems an easy choice but some people may prefer to be eaten by the grue waiting for them in that creepy path.

Grue? You can’t be that old.

[Albrenia]

Seems an easy choice but some people may prefer to be eaten by the grue waiting for them in that creepy path.

Grue? You can’t be that old.

Well now you make me feel old.

[Telconi]

I mean, I admire the consistency, even if the it's consistently bad.

Unequal doesn't always mean bad. You asked how some people having voting rights and not others is unequal, so I answered.

I still don't understand how everyone having the same options, that is "Vote for whoever you want who isn't a Nazi/Gun grabber" is unequal, it extends identical voting rights to everyone.

[San Lumen]

https://filesforprogress.org/datasets/2 ... 1.2.20.pdf

Possible upset brewing in Mississippi.

Trump leads 55 to 41 whereas Hyde Smith only leads Epsy 50-47 for senate.

[Nakena]

After this pandemic shit's over, there's plenty of other nice places to live if you're seriously considering moving.

I'd say Australia, but I'm biased because we're awesome despite our fucking hilarious politics.

At this point I'd rather live as a gay man in Saudi Arabia than live in the US. So any place is fine.

What makes the US so bad?

[Albrenia]

Unequal doesn't always mean bad. You asked how some people having voting rights and not others is unequal, so I answered.

I still don't understand how everyone having the same options, that is "Vote for whoever you want who isn't a Nazi/Gun grabber" is unequal, it extends identical voting rights to everyone.

I guess that's one way to look at it. Although that would make one-party systems also considered 'equal'. Since everyone would have the right to vote for The Party.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Seems an easy choice but some people may prefer to be eaten by the grue waiting for them in that creepy path.

Grue? You can’t be that old.

For all you know I may be a methuselah. Think on it.

[Bombadil]

I don't really see how Trump has increased the position of NK in the world considering NK isn't really interested in spreading its influence all that much to begin with. The Trump administration being willing to accept NK as a nuclear power is one of the closer steps towards peace in US-NK relations in a long time. It's especially ridiculous when you consider that SK's own position has been to ease tensions without demanding denuclearization itself.

I don't know, Trump cosying up to Kim has caused China to break the sanctions and start helping NK export coal. Previously China had fallen in line with imposing sanctions but any threat to that relationship will change it pronto. Ideally the pressure should be on China to squeeze NK, not buddy up with NK who have zero intention of doing anything other than whatever they want to do.

The only reason Kim wanted to deal with Trump is for the sanctions from China to be removed.

[Telconi]

I still don't understand how everyone having the same options, that is "Vote for whoever you want who isn't a Nazi/Gun grabber" is unequal, it extends identical voting rights to everyone.

I guess that's one way to look at it. Although that would make one-party systems also considered 'equal'. Since everyone would have the right to vote for The Party.

Well, they would be, but as you said: "unequal doesn't always mean bad". The converse is true as well.

In the instance of what I'm talking about though, things would be both equal and good.

[Sungoldy-China]

Who wins this election won't change anything.

The real problem for the United States is that ordinary Americans bear the cost of American hegemony, but the benefits of American hegemony are reaped by big companies and big capitalists.

Young people who cannot afford school loans join the army to fight for oil companies and dollars，

Ordinary Americans bear high medical insurance costs to ensure that large medical companies have enough money and experimental materials to support technological leadership

Even Trump did not care about bringing work back to the U.S. from the trade war, but to ensure the technological leadership and patent protection of U.S. companies. His trade agreement was merely to further expand the power and profitability of U.S. companies overseas. The more he signed A trade agreement will further help American companies transfer jobs.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Unequal doesn't always mean bad. You asked how some people having voting rights and not others is unequal, so I answered.

I still don't understand how everyone having the same options, that is "Vote for whoever you want who isn't a Nazi/Gun grabber" is unequal, it extends identical voting rights to everyone.

You understand how limiting the available candidates limits the freedom of voters.
Nazis (or whatever) can no longer vote for the candidate they most prefer. Everyone else can. That's not equal voting rights.

I know you'll pretend not to understand, so I have to dumb it down even further. And you'll keep doing that until it's dumbed down so far it no longer makes sense. Well save your fingers, I'm not playing that game.