2020 US General Election Thread X: For Those About to Vote

[Shrillland]

Its highly unlikely. There is no way for a postal worker to know someones party affiliation.

So it's not possible for postal workers to effect elections? Why cry about DeJoy then?

Elections can be messed up without knowing party affiliations. What we're seeing in Pennsylvania is more incompetence caused by the cuts that Trump and DeJoy have insisted on, and in ruby red counties, or at least historically so, to boot. When you have 30,000 ballots in one county seemingly lost in the mail and the USPS delays or possible neglect from the same being the most likely cause, then yes, postal workers can affect outcomes without necessarily intending to do so or striking at a particular party.

[San Lumen]

Trump is preparing a huge blitz of executive orders for after the election, and holy shit.

The architect of Donald Trump’s hardline immigration policy, senior adviser Stephen Miller, is said to have a drawer full of executive orders ready to be signed in “shock and awe” style if Trump is re-elected.

The former homeland security department chief of staff Miles Taylor said this wishlist was reserved for the second term because it included policies that were too unpopular for a president seeking re-election.

This comes as no surprise to those who have watched and worried as legal pathways to US immigration shut under Trump, and who wonder not just about four more years of him as president, but also about four more years with Miller at his side.

The 35-year-old has managed to keep his position as a senior adviser to the president after being exposed for having an affinity for white nationalism and becoming synonymous with unpopular Trump administration policies such as family separation – when thousands of children were taken away from their parents at the southern border to deter would-be migrants. Three years later, more than 500 kids are still yet to be reunited with their parents.

Jean Guerrero, the author of the Miller biography Hatemonger, told the Guardian: “There’s a number of things they have been cautious about because of the legal and political risks in the first term and I think that in a second term you would see Stephen Miller get much freer rein when it comes to his wishlist of items.”

Those items are expected to include attempting to eliminate birthright citizenship, making the US citizenship test more difficult to pass, ending the program which protects people from deportation when there is a crisis is their country (Temporary Protected Status) and slashing refugee admissions even further, to zero.

Holy cow. That is terrifying.

Its likely we wont be taking in any refugees for several years but that said I dont support cutting it to zero.

[United Hemand Insia]

technically I'm a minority since I am a Trump supporter.

Damn right you are. This is the first honest statement you've made.

Not true. Honesty is subjective, so technically, if it comes from the heart, it is true. So actually I have been quite honest.

[Gravlen]

When was the other time? I'm pretty sure that's the first time. I do have an argument, hence why we were ARGUING. Did that get throught oyur thick skull?

Usually you pull relevant historical instances to the argument.

What does the Irish famine have to do with worth of the Trump presidency?

One million people died during the Irish famine. The death toll of Covid is almost 1.2 million, and in the US the death toll has passed a quarter of the deaths of the Irish famine.

I'm sure that's the message the poster is trying to convey...

[United Hemand Insia]

Well, we're Irish people in the US back then were minorities, and technically I'm a minority since I am a Trump supporter.

Being a racial minority is in no way comparable to being a Trump supporter jfc.

Really? Pretty sure I just compared the two.

[Eukaryotic Cells]

Trump is preparing a huge blitz of executive orders for after the election, and holy shit.

The architect of Donald Trump’s hardline immigration policy, senior adviser Stephen Miller, is said to have a drawer full of executive orders ready to be signed in “shock and awe” style if Trump is re-elected.

The former homeland security department chief of staff Miles Taylor said this wishlist was reserved for the second term because it included policies that were too unpopular for a president seeking re-election.

This comes as no surprise to those who have watched and worried as legal pathways to US immigration shut under Trump, and who wonder not just about four more years of him as president, but also about four more years with Miller at his side.

The 35-year-old has managed to keep his position as a senior adviser to the president after being exposed for having an affinity for white nationalism and becoming synonymous with unpopular Trump administration policies such as family separation – when thousands of children were taken away from their parents at the southern border to deter would-be migrants. Three years later, more than 500 kids are still yet to be reunited with their parents.

Jean Guerrero, the author of the Miller biography Hatemonger, told the Guardian: “There’s a number of things they have been cautious about because of the legal and political risks in the first term and I think that in a second term you would see Stephen Miller get much freer rein when it comes to his wishlist of items.”

Those items are expected to include attempting to eliminate birthright citizenship, making the US citizenship test more difficult to pass, ending the program which protects people from deportation when there is a crisis is their country (Temporary Protected Status) and slashing refugee admissions even further, to zero.

Pretty horrifying, although this is a fairly common political strategy.

[Telconi]

So it's not possible for postal workers to effect elections? Why cry about DeJoy then?

Just because you can’t know who’s voting for who doesn’t mean that indiscriminately attempting to discount mail-in votes, which swing heavily democrat (in general), doesn’t have an effect on the election. But that argument only goes one way.

If postal tampering only counts based upon explicit knowledge of the vote being cast, then discounting mail votes isn't partisan interference.

Alternatively, if we count it as partisan interference based on educated conjecture, then Democrat leaning postal workers could quite easily tamper with ballots presumed to be largely Republican

[United Hemand Insia]

Usually you pull relevant historical instances to the argument.

What does the Irish famine have to do with worth of the Trump presidency?

One million people died during the Irish famine. The death toll of Covid is almost 1.2 million, and in the US the death toll has passed a quarter of the deaths of the Irish famine.

I'm sure that's the message the poster is trying to convey...

I'm a poster, now? Not even the latter?

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Trump is preparing a huge blitz of executive orders for after the election, and holy shit.

The architect of Donald Trump’s hardline immigration policy, senior adviser Stephen Miller, is said to have a drawer full of executive orders ready to be signed in “shock and awe” style if Trump is re-elected.

The former homeland security department chief of staff Miles Taylor said this wishlist was reserved for the second term because it included policies that were too unpopular for a president seeking re-election.

This comes as no surprise to those who have watched and worried as legal pathways to US immigration shut under Trump, and who wonder not just about four more years of him as president, but also about four more years with Miller at his side.

The 35-year-old has managed to keep his position as a senior adviser to the president after being exposed for having an affinity for white nationalism and becoming synonymous with unpopular Trump administration policies such as family separation – when thousands of children were taken away from their parents at the southern border to deter would-be migrants. Three years later, more than 500 kids are still yet to be reunited with their parents.

Jean Guerrero, the author of the Miller biography Hatemonger, told the Guardian: “There’s a number of things they have been cautious about because of the legal and political risks in the first term and I think that in a second term you would see Stephen Miller get much freer rein when it comes to his wishlist of items.”

Those items are expected to include attempting to eliminate birthright citizenship, making the US citizenship test more difficult to pass, ending the program which protects people from deportation when there is a crisis is their country (Temporary Protected Status) and slashing refugee admissions even further, to zero.

And some folks will continue to say his administration isn’t furthering white supremacy.

[Valrifell]

Being a racial minority is in no way comparable to being a Trump supporter jfc.

Really? Pretty sure I just compared the two.

And you're wrong to do so.

[Kowani]

Being a racial minority is in no way comparable to being a Trump supporter jfc.

Really? Pretty sure I just compared the two.

They are, however, very bad comparisons.

[United Hemand Insia]

Really? Pretty sure I just compared the two.

And you're wrong to do so.

I am not. There's nothing wrong with comparing them.

[United Hemand Insia]

Really? Pretty sure I just compared the two.

They are, however, very bad comparisons.

We weren't talking about the quality.

[Valrifell]

They are, however, very bad comparisons.

We weren't talking about the quality.

Then you're being annoyingly literal with what I'm saying.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

And you're wrong to do so.

I am not. There's nothing wrong with comparing them.

One is an immutable trait, the other is not so there kinda is.

[San Lumen]

Just because you can’t know who’s voting for who doesn’t mean that indiscriminately attempting to discount mail-in votes, which swing heavily democrat (in general), doesn’t have an effect on the election. But that argument only goes one way.

If postal tampering only counts based upon explicit knowledge of the vote being cast, then discounting mail votes isn't partisan interference.

Alternatively, if we count it as partisan interference based on educated conjecture, then Democrat leaning postal workers could quite easily tamper with ballots presumed to be largely Republican

Do you have x ray vision and know this for sure?

[Cultural Posadism]

Well, we're Irish people in the US back then were minorities, and technically I'm a minority since I am a Trump supporter.

Being a racial minority is in no way comparable to being a Trump supporter jfc.

Sounds like he wants to be disproportionately imprisoned and disenfranchised. Why should we refuse him that wish?

[Greater Miami Shores]

How are they going to know that? Do they have a crystal ball that tell them this?

X-ray glasses.

There are neighborhoods with more Republicans than Democrats, there are neighborhoods with more Democrats than Republicans. There are houses that have Trump yard signs on the front yard, the mailmans or mailladies can see.

I Posted on the first nastiest Presidential debate ever, between Trump and Biden, about the Pro Trump Republican Lady who told us, they have noticed they are not receiving their mail and packages, they suspect the mail man in their area is a Pro Biden Democrat, and is keeping their mail and packages from them. They filled an official complaint against the mail man in their area's post office.

It was dismissed and made fun of by the Pro Biden Democrat leftist on NS.

I Posted on the same post, a Republican Trump supporter friend of mine, told us his son works in the security field. He told his dad, there are eye contact lenses that can transmit information to a person. Like it seemed to many Republicans Biden might have had a wire during the first and second debate with Trump. They said, on the second debate, at times Biden seemed to be looking at his watch, and seemed to be looking x and waiting to answer a question. This is what they said.

[Telconi]

If postal tampering only counts based upon explicit knowledge of the vote being cast, then discounting mail votes isn't partisan interference.

Alternatively, if we count it as partisan interference based on educated conjecture, then Democrat leaning postal workers could quite easily tamper with ballots presumed to be largely Republican

Do you have x ray vision and know this for sure?

Does this post make sense to you?

[United Hemand Insia]

We weren't talking about the quality.

Then you're being annoyingly literal with what I'm saying.

I love being annoying. If it annoys you, you best believe I will keep doing it.

[Gravlen]

That's still not a great thing Trump has done.

I was denouncing Biden, I never said that was something Trump did.

The conversation was about what great thing Trump has done, and you have nothing, so you try to change the topic. I see.

It surprises me that you won't defend the man whom you d-ride.

Why would I? Biden is shit. However, he's not deadly poison intent on tearing down the democratic system and creating authocratic rule while killing me, so Biden is the clear choice considering the alternative.

[United Hemand Insia]

Being a racial minority is in no way comparable to being a Trump supporter jfc.

Sounds like he wants to be disproportionately imprisoned and disenfranchised. Why should we refuse him that wish?

Don't know how you got to that, but I've already experienced it.

[San Lumen]

Do you have x ray vision and know this for sure?

Does this post make sense to you?

Do postal workers have x ray vision and know who someone voted for?

[Autumn Wind]

Do you differentiate yourself from Biden Democrat Trump supporters and Trump Republican Biden supporters?

Otherwise the title seems a little redundant.

I see nothing redundant about it. Republican Trump supporters, and Democrat Biden supporters. I welcome millions of Biden Democrat Trump supporters.

I see you did not make any pro or con comments to my post you quoted, according to your views and opinions.

Being a Trump Republican implies being a Trump supporter, unless there are significant numbers of Trump Republicans who aren’t Trump supporters that you feel the need to differentiate yourself from.

It’s like saying I’m an United States Army soldier in the United States Army. Given that most countries in the world have armies, if you were to say “I am a soldier,” it would make sense to clarify which military you serve in, but since you have already identified the branch of service, it makes the phrase redundant.

[United Hemand Insia]

I was denouncing Biden, I never said that was something Trump did.

The conversation was about what great thing Trump has done, and you have nothing, so you try to change the topic. I see.

It surprises me that you won't defend the man whom you d-ride.

Why would I? Biden is shit. However, he's not deadly poison intent on tearing down the democratic system and creating authocratic rule while killing me, so Biden is the clear choice considering the alternative.

How is he killing you? Don't think you know him on a personal level. He would be doing us a favor if he is killing you, though.