2020 US General Election Thread X: For Those About to Vote

[Post War America]

If my car's bumper sticker is any indication, I'm voting for Bigfoot.

Oooh, tough break on that one. I guess you haven't seen his Tweets from 2006 that just resurfaced? Not a good look.

Was twitter even around back then?

[Valrifell]

Oooh, tough break on that one. I guess you haven't seen his Tweets from 2006 that just resurfaced? Not a good look.

Was twitter even around back then?

Founded March of that very year, apparently. Bigfoot was an early adopter, probably why those tweets were so obscure.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Then what works for you? Cause this is a thing. Wealthy people supporting secondary issues like "women's empowerment" to deflect from real problems, like Kamala Harris being a crooked fed or Hillary Clinton being a war mongerer. It's why the mainstream media won't talk about these issues while focusing on everything evil Trump has ever done.

The dichotomy between "identity" politics and materialistic politics is false, stop participating in it. That people focus more on one or the other is not to the exclusion of the opposite.

Those woke Twitter users who care about women empowerment? Aren't typically friends of the bourgeois either.

Alot of people who focus on one don't focus on the other. Ever wonder why Kamala Harris is being celebrated for her race while her record as a prosecutor is conveniently forgotten?

There is no false dichotomy. Alot of people are willing to overlook personal flaws or political issues just because "that guy looks like me," one case in point being Obama himself.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

All races are equal except Nickelshit, er Nickleback. Those guys should be exiled to a desert island.

Looket dis foootooograaaaph...

My taste in music is so shit I actually like some Nickelback songs, lol.

Look at this Fuckin shit

[Valrifell]

The dichotomy between "identity" politics and materialistic politics is false, stop participating in it. That people focus more on one or the other is not to the exclusion of the opposite.

Those woke Twitter users who care about women empowerment? Aren't typically friends of the bourgeois either.

Alot of people who focus on one don't focus on the other. Ever wonder why Kamala Harris is being celebrated for her race while her record as a prosecutor is conveniently forgotten?

I've never seen it forgotten, I've not seen people on Twitter or any social media forget it either. Once again you fall for talking points and anecdote. You can both acknowledge that it's neat that she's where she is as a minority while also happening to be a failure of a politician.

Heck, we can't even go a page on this thread without people bringing up Libya and I find it hard to believe that we're super exceptional here.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Alot of people who focus on one don't focus on the other. Ever wonder why Kamala Harris is being celebrated for her race while her record as a prosecutor is conveniently forgotten?

I've never seen it forgotten, I've not seen people on Twitter or any social media forget it either. Once again you fall for talking points and anecdote.

Not talking about Twitter friendo. I'm talking about the mainstream media. Never once did I mention Twitter. Did I?

And what do you mean "we aren't exceptional" when it comes to Libya.

[Valrifell]

I've never seen it forgotten, I've not seen people on Twitter or any social media forget it either. Once again you fall for talking points and anecdote.

Not talking about Twitter friendo. I'm talking about the mainstream media. Never once did I mention Twitter. Did I?

I'm not sure why you were expecting the mainstream media to be materialist-minded and openly talk about the failures of capitalism. Buckaroo.

EDIT: NSG talking about it.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Not talking about Twitter friendo. I'm talking about the mainstream media. Never once did I mention Twitter. Did I?

I'm not sure why you were expecting the mainstream media to be materialist-minded and openly talk about the failures of capitalism. Buckaroo.

I'm not. I dont understand why you're getting so confrontational and making assumptions where there are none to be had. I said "some people favor identity politics to distract from real world issues" and I explained what I meant by identity politics. I'm not saying that everyone who ever talks about racism is trying to distract. I'm talking about a specific group of people. So ima ask again. Do you or do you not agree that some individuals deploy rhetoric about race or gender to distract from class issues and foreign affairs?

[West Leas Oros 2]

Then what works for you? Cause this is a thing. Wealthy people supporting secondary issues like "women's empowerment" to deflect from real problems, like Kamala Harris being a crooked fed or Hillary Clinton being a war mongerer. It's why the mainstream media won't talk about these issues while focusing on everything evil Trump has ever done.

The dichotomy between "identity" politics and materialistic politics is false, stop participating in it. That people focus more on one or the other is not to the exclusion of the opposite.

Those woke Twitter users who care about women empowerment? Aren't typically friends of the bourgeois either.

Citation definitely needed.

[Post War America]

I've never seen it forgotten, I've not seen people on Twitter or any social media forget it either. Once again you fall for talking points and anecdote.

Not talking about Twitter friendo. I'm talking about the mainstream media. Never once did I mention Twitter. Did I?

And what do you mean "we aren't exceptional" when it comes to Libya.

Why would expect a media owned by capitalists to be opposing someone for their holding up of the status quo? That's a pointless waste of energy.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Not talking about Twitter friendo. I'm talking about the mainstream media. Never once did I mention Twitter. Did I?

And what do you mean "we aren't exceptional" when it comes to Libya.

Why would expect a media owned by capitalists to be opposing someone for their holding up of the status quo? That's a pointless waste of energy.

My point is this. Ready?

CNN is only left wing if you think "supporting Obama" makes one left wing. They are not economically left wing and frankly even on racial justice they're mainly just virtue signaling.

[Valrifell]

I'm not sure why you were expecting the mainstream media to be materialist-minded and openly talk about the failures of capitalism. Buckaroo.

I'm not. I dont understand why you're getting so confrontational and making assumptions where there are none to be had. I said "some people favor identity politics to distract from real world issues" and I explained what I meant by identity politics. I'm not saying that everyone who ever talks about racism is trying to distract. I'm talking about a specific group of people. So ima ask again. Do you or do you not agree that some individuals deploy rhetoric about race or gender to distract from class issues and foreign affairs?

No, I don't think that's their intent. Because as I've made clear it's not very effective since there's no contradiction in supporting Marxist theory and feminist and racial analyses of the current world order. Many laymen are smart enough to realize that the underlying issues of much discord is in capitalism

What conglomerates do is promote things that don't really solve the issue. Harris' appointment? Does nothing as a solution. #GirlBoss CEOs? Do nothing. But that's not a flaw of pushing identity-centric narratives as you've defined, that's just the powerful not actually wanting to change anything. In essence, they're pushing non-solutions to make it appear as though the problem is solved, and this is ditto to economic and social issues.

[Valrifell]

The dichotomy between "identity" politics and materialistic politics is false, stop participating in it. That people focus more on one or the other is not to the exclusion of the opposite.

Those woke Twitter users who care about women empowerment? Aren't typically friends of the bourgeois either.

Citation definitely needed.

All of the coolest leftist online discourse comes from people who also happen have social issues in their hearts.

[The Black Forrest]

Did he call them fireside chats or suggest they could have been?

If he says they are the same, he is a simpleton.

Trump could have created a new fireside chat with twitter. He would have been a genius. The problem? FDR spoke well. FDR projected leadership. FDR projected empathy. My grandmother said you listened to him and you felt things would get better.

Trump can’t do that......well only his followers would believe it as they will believe anything he says......

I love your Trump Idea, too bad I did not think of it before, I would have suggested it to Republican President Trump a long time ago.

Like Republican President Ronald Reagan, The Great Communicator.

GMS.

Wouldn’t have mattered. He is not up to the job. The only time a coherent comment comes from his tweets is when his social media guy is typing them.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Citation definitely needed.

All of the coolest leftist online discourse comes from people who also happen have social issues in their hearts.

Look, I value social issues as much as anyone else. I support fighting racism, I'm pro gay and I support women's rights with a passion. My issue is with people who make social issues some chiq facade of virtue signaling while ignoring economic issues altogether.

Think about all the white suburbanites who in theory support BLM. Think of how many don't want to address economic issues holding black America back, and how many would be the first to oppose section 8 housing going up in their neighborhood. Those are the people im against. The ones who demonize others as "racists" while doing fuck all to help people of color or anyone else.

[Thermodolia]

If my car's bumper sticker is any indication, I'm voting for Bigfoot.

Oooh, tough break on that one. I guess you haven't seen his Tweets from 2006 that just resurfaced? Not a good look.

If we are going by bumper stickers I’m voting for the Giant meteor

[West Leas Oros 2]

Citation definitely needed.

All of the coolest leftist online discourse comes from people who also happen have social issues in their hearts.

You’re kidding.

No, really. Have you seen the “socially-minded” people of Twitter, or other sites for that matter? They’ll eat you up, chew you apart, and spit you right back out.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I'm not. I dont understand why you're getting so confrontational and making assumptions where there are none to be had. I said "some people favor identity politics to distract from real world issues" and I explained what I meant by identity politics. I'm not saying that everyone who ever talks about racism is trying to distract. I'm talking about a specific group of people. So ima ask again. Do you or do you not agree that some individuals deploy rhetoric about race or gender to distract from class issues and foreign affairs?

No, I don't think that's their intent. Because as I've made clear it's not very effective since there's no contradiction in supporting Marxist theory and feminist and racial analyses of the current world order. Many laymen are smart enough to realize that the underlying issues of much discord is in capitalism

What conglomerates do is promote things that don't really solve the issue. Harris' appointment? Does nothing as a solution. #GirlBoss CEOs? Do nothing. But that's not a flaw of pushing identity-centric narratives as you've defined, that's just the powerful not actually wanting to change anything. In essence, they're pushing non-solutions to make it appear as though the problem is solved, and this is ditto to economic and social issues.

Then we're in agreement.

[Valrifell]

No, I don't think that's their intent. Because as I've made clear it's not very effective since there's no contradiction in supporting Marxist theory and feminist and racial analyses of the current world order. Many laymen are smart enough to realize that the underlying issues of much discord is in capitalism

What conglomerates do is promote things that don't really solve the issue. Harris' appointment? Does nothing as a solution. #GirlBoss CEOs? Do nothing. But that's not a flaw of pushing identity-centric narratives as you've defined, that's just the powerful not actually wanting to change anything. In essence, they're pushing non-solutions to make it appear as though the problem is solved, and this is ditto to economic and social issues.

Then we're in agreement.

Then I'm bad at parsing arguments.

Fair enough.

[Valrifell]

All of the coolest leftist online discourse comes from people who also happen have social issues in their hearts.

You’re kidding.

No, really. Have you seen the “socially-minded” people of Twitter, or other sites for that matter? They’ll eat you up, chew you apart, and spit you right back out.

Only if you're like, totally lame

[Borderlands of Rojava]

All these older Venezuelans and Cubans voting for Trump cause "communism is bad" are making me cry.

Biden isn't even a social Democrat, let alone a communist.

[West Leas Oros 2]

You’re kidding.

No, really. Have you seen the “socially-minded” people of Twitter, or other sites for that matter? They’ll eat you up, chew you apart, and spit you right back out.

Only if you're like, totally lame

Just saying, I’m not sure I’m going to get my opinions from some tankie quoting Mao in his bio who only replies “shut up honkey ass crakkker” when his views are challenged.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Only if you're like, totally lame

Just saying, I’m not sure I’m going to get my opinions from some tankie quoting Mao in his bio who only replies “shut up honkey ass crakkker” when his views are challenged.

That guy is just big dumb. Remember that assholes exist even in the best political ideologies.

[Valrifell]

Only if you're like, totally lame

Just saying, I’m not sure I’m going to get my opinions from some tankie quoting Mao in his bio who only replies “shut up honkey ass crakkker” when his views are challenged.

I didn't say they had good opinions or you should get your opinions from them, I said they could be considered leftist. Given your example it seems you agree, at least with your characterization of this hypothetical person as a "tankie".

[Kannap]

Oooh, tough break on that one. I guess you haven't seen his Tweets from 2006 that just resurfaced? Not a good look.

If we are going by bumper stickers I’m voting for the Giant meteor

Has the meteor announced their running mate yet? I think Bigfoot chose Mothman.