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Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:Btw, he is called Fjotolf Hansen now.


He admires Al Qaeda but says he wants Muslims out of Europe. And he wants to work with Al Qaeda to biologically attack cities like bruh what is his ideology?

"Strength is good" obviously. Or "progress comes from strife".
He believes violence is the proper way to protect. Hence he desires to be the christian Al Qaeda.
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Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
He admires Al Qaeda but says he wants Muslims out of Europe. And he wants to work with Al Qaeda to biologically attack cities like bruh what is his ideology?

"Strength is good" obviously. Or "progress comes from strife".
He believes violence is the proper way to protect. Hence he desires to be the christian Al Qaeda.


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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:26 pm

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I mean... he kinda was? Not nearly as much as he was by racism, though.


Having read the guy's manifesto, he explicitly said what radicalized him was seeing so many Muslims in France. And likewise, he stated that he wasn't a Christian, even though he wants Christians to take back Constantinople for some reason.


Look even us non-Christians can respect the pure aesthetic of a Christian Constantinople :p
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:33 pm

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Having read the guy's manifesto, he explicitly said what radicalized him was seeing so many Muslims in France. And likewise, he stated that he wasn't a Christian, even though he wants Christians to take back Constantinople for some reason.


Look even us non-Christians can respect the pure aesthetic of a Christian Constantinople :p


I think he was coming at it from a "Western Civ Pride" angle.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:34 pm

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Look even us non-Christians can respect the pure aesthetic of a Christian Constantinople :p


I think he was coming at it from a "Western Civ Pride" angle.


"West is good. Muslims monke."

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I think he was coming at it from a "Western Civ Pride" angle.


"West is good. Muslims monke."

-the entire Brenton Tarrant manifesto without all the extra layers of bullshit

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I think he was coming at it from a "Western Civ Pride" angle.


"West is good. Muslims monke."

-the entire Brenton Tarrant manifesto without all the extra layers of bullshit

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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:01 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
He admires Al Qaeda but says he wants Muslims out of Europe. And he wants to work with Al Qaeda to biologically attack cities like bruh what is his ideology?

"Strength is good" obviously. Or "progress comes from strife".
He believes violence is the proper way to protect. Hence he desires to be the christian Al Qaeda.

I think loves Al-Qaeda’s emphasis on violence, and also loves that its actions paint Muslims as terrible, which justifies violence against us.
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Postby Benuty » Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:23 pm

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Purpelia wrote:Not quite. Islam does indeed produce a disproportionately high number of religious offenses. Especially over here in Europe where Christian terrorism is nigh unheard off because in most of the countries here radical Christianity burned it self out by the time america was colonized, and what didn't fled to america to continue there.


You do not consider the IRA to be christian ?

The motivations were baked into nationalist thought however so proclaiming them radical Catholics as a whole is a bit of a stretch.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:49 pm

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You do not consider the IRA to be christian ?

The motivations were baked into nationalist thought however so proclaiming them radical Catholics as a whole is a bit of a stretch.


The IRA killed for Irish independence, not for the pope.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:57 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Benuty wrote:The motivations were baked into nationalist thought however so proclaiming them radical Catholics as a whole is a bit of a stretch.


The IRA killed for Irish independence, not for the pope.


But for them, with defending Ireland meant expelling Protestant Brits from Catholic Irish land. It wasn’t their main focus, but religion DID play a role.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:59 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The IRA killed for Irish independence, not for the pope.


But for them, with defending Ireland meant expelling Protestant Brits from Catholic Irish land. It wasn’t their main focus, but religion DID play a role.


They wanted Brits out. Protestant was basically the same thing as brit but if some Irish guy one day said "oh I'm Anglican now," the IRA wouldn't boot him out.

The IRA had many members who weren't even that religious. I mean shit some IRA groups were full on Marxists.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:16 pm

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But for them, with defending Ireland meant expelling Protestant Brits from Catholic Irish land. It wasn’t their main focus, but religion DID play a role.


They wanted Brits out. Protestant was basically the same thing as brit but if some Irish guy one day said "oh I'm Anglican now," the IRA wouldn't boot him out.

The IRA had many members who weren't even that religious. I mean shit some IRA groups were full on Marxists.

Thats not true. Theres a reason why irish protestants prefer to be ruled by protestant british, over catholic irish. There was a concern of a catholic hatred of protestants, thats relatively ignored these days.
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Postby Aureumterra III » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:31 am

Technically the IRA was an ethnonationalist group, although I sympathize with their cause. Iceland’s history is like a low-tier nonviolent version of Irish history, part of the reason why politics here doesn’t revolve around left or right, but more around nationalists vs. Europhiles

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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:44 am

Aureumterra III wrote:Technically the IRA was an ethnonationalist group, although I sympathize with their cause. Iceland’s history is like a low-tier nonviolent version of Irish history, part of the reason why politics here doesn’t revolve around left or right, but more around nationalists vs. Europhiles

My party, the Independence Party, which is right wing conservative, is in a coalition with the Left-Greens because we are both nationalists, while the opposition is Europhilic


I sympathize with the IRA’s goal, and love their songs (which pretty much boil down to “Brits are bloody colonizers” or “lol uk gay”), not so much with their actions.
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Insaanistan wrote:Someone added the stabbing of the two Muslim women to Wikipedia already:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... eu2FLld0zY

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Andsed wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Someone added the stabbing of the two Muslim women to Wikipedia already:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... eu2FLld0zY

Responding to the murder of an innocent by murdering innocents. Truly big brain energy.

The vicious cycle of extremism and Islamophobia.
Islamophobia leads to the alienation, bullying, harassment, killing etc of Muslims. This leads a few, especially young Muslims, to join the terrorist groups claiming to be a heaven for all Muslims, and claims to fight against the people in the countries these young people are from, countries they now associate with the oppression they received. More terrorists means more terrorist attacks. More terrorist attacks means more Islamophobes attacks on Muslims and more people becoming Islamophobia, leading to politicians normalizing and instituting Islamophobic policies disguised as national security or defending secularism. That leads to more Islamophobic attacks on Muslims (and often Christian Arabs, Sikhs etc), leading to... you get the picture.
Basically, Islamophobia just leads to more terrorists.
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Postby Phoenicaea » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:11 am

i measure two different, distinct main themes. first, most profound is philosophical. the other is political theme. first is most important, yet it is too difficult to discuss.

so if i limit to the secondary topic, the political topic, the good path to follow for our countries surely is the most straight, as french president stated ‘here we have right to blasphemy’: i agree with him.
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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Napoleon rolls in his grave

Napoleon. Savior of the French Revolution.
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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Napoleon rolls in his grave

Napoleon. Savior of the French Revolution.

One could argue Napoleon’s rise did two main things, one was prevent radicals like Robespierre and the Jacobins from beheading half the French population, and the second and more important one was spreading the ideas of liberalism, capitalism, and secularism throughout Europe.

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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:17 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Napoleon rolls in his grave

Napoleon actually was pretty okay with Islam in his borders. He apparently allowed Muslims in France and it’s colonies to refer to him as “Āli Bonaparte”.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:21 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Napoleon rolls in his grave

Napoleon actually was pretty okay with Islam in his borders. He apparently allowed Muslims in France and it’s colonies to refer to him as “Āli Bonaparte”.

We aren't praising him for "kebab removal" or anything stupid like that. We're praising him because he wouldn't see France pushed around like it is today. He would tolerate Muslims if they weren't radical.
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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:26 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Napoleon actually was pretty okay with Islam in his borders. He apparently allowed Muslims in France and it’s colonies to refer to him as “Āli Bonaparte”.

We aren't praising him for "kebab removal" or anything stupid like that. We're praising him because he wouldn't see France pushed around like it is today. He would tolerate Muslims if they weren't radical.

Oh, I agree, France is a pushover.
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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:28 am

France: Muslims are great! They just won us the World Cup!
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France: I hate all 5 million of you! Get out!
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