2020 French Terrorist Beheadings and Attacks Thread

[Washington Resistance Army]

So innocent people gotta die cause some guy in a truck of peace ran people down. Do you know how messed up that is?

If I’m not mistaken, that attack was one where the first person to be ran over was a HIJABI.

Muslims pretty clearly weren't the intended target. That's just wrong time wrong place.

[Thermodolia]

I wouldn’t be so sure now. There’s a lot of hate for what’s going on right now in France so Macron has the ability to do whatever he wants because of this

And I won’t blame the French for taking very aggressive actions considering a teacher was fucking beheaded

He’s already issuing orders to ban 50 Muslim organizations on the grounds they are supporting radical islamism

[Insaanistan]

If I’m not mistaken, that attack was one where the first person to be ran over was a HIJABI.

Muslims pretty clearly weren't the intended target. That's just wrong time wrong place.

These terrorists believe that Muslims who don’t join them are also non-believers (and actually lower than other non-believers) and thus must be killed. If they see a Muslim who makes no indication of wanting to help them, they consider them more desirable to kill than an actual non-Muslim. Like the Japanese during WWII when they captured Japanese-American POWs.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

So unfortunately I knew this was going to happen but it looks like we have our first revenge attack after two Muslim women where repeatedly stabbed in Paris

The one detail in that news story which alarmed me was the fact that the Algerian women said that they were in the park with 7 relatives of theirs. Why did they have 7 people among them to a household, 4 of which were children? If they're reproducing faster than the typical French family, I find this to be unacceptable. I'd like some form of state invention in order to ensure France stays majority French, much like how China finds at least some ways of protecting their Han Chinese majority.

A good reason for immigration is population decline in Western countries. Without immigration the US would go into population decline 10 to 15 years from now, accentuating a "too many old people" problem it has already.

You should most welcome children immigrating now: children adopt the ways of their new country far more easily than adults do. And even more you should welcome the legal immigrants in the US now (or anyone for that matter) having kids. Being citizens from birth, you should just trust immigrant families to do what is best for their own children, which is not burden them with bigoted customs that will make it hard for them to get along later in life.

My take is that you don't feel that welcome in your own country, and you blame illegal immigrants you hardly ever meet for how citizen immigrants react badly to you. What can I say? There's no country I know of which will make you welcome for being openly racist to their citizens.

2nd Figure: Nearly half the immigrants in the US are citizens

Bottom line: even if you insist that more immigration is bad, you should still support the immigrant citizens having more children. Because regardless of race, they are American children and you're going to need those for your own Social Security!

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Muslims pretty clearly weren't the intended target. That's just wrong time wrong place.

These terrorists believe that Muslims who don’t join them are also non-believers (and actually lower than other non-believers) and thus must be killed. If they see a Muslim who makes no indication of wanting to help them, they consider them more desirable to kill than an actual non-Muslim. Like the Japanese during WWII when they captured Japanese-American POWs.

Using an analogy of race, for religious hatred, is quite dubious. Isn't it a tenet of Islam that harming a believer is worse than harming a heathen? And thus, the terrorist's motive isn't directly founded in Islamic teaching but some fundamentalist crazy shit?

Though negligence would explain it just as well. The terrorist driver didn't notice the hijabi, or didn't notice until it was too late to stop?

[Insaanistan]

These terrorists believe that Muslims who don’t join them are also non-believers (and actually lower than other non-believers) and thus must be killed. If they see a Muslim who makes no indication of wanting to help them, they consider them more desirable to kill than an actual non-Muslim. Like the Japanese during WWII when they captured Japanese-American POWs.

Using an analogy of race, for religious hatred, is quite dubious. Isn't it a tenet of Islam that harming a believer is worse than harming a heathen? And thus, the terrorist's motive isn't directly founded in Islamic teaching but some fundamentalist crazy shit?

Though negligence would explain it just as well. The terrorist driver didn't notice the hijabi, or didn't notice until it was too late to stop?

In case you haven’t realized, terrorism has no basis in Islam apart from misquoted verses and hadiths.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Using an analogy of race, for religious hatred, is quite dubious. Isn't it a tenet of Islam that harming a believer is worse than harming a heathen? And thus, the terrorist's motive isn't directly founded in Islamic teaching but some fundamentalist crazy shit?

Though negligence would explain it just as well. The terrorist driver didn't notice the hijabi, or didn't notice until it was too late to stop?

In case you haven’t realized, terrorism has no basis in Islam apart from misquoted verses and hadiths.

Yes? I said "terrorist" because you said "these terrorists" so it's disingenuous of you now to pretend I meant "all terrorists".

[Borderlands of Rojava]

And I won’t blame the French for taking very aggressive actions considering a teacher was fucking beheaded

He’s already issuing orders to ban 50 Muslim organizations on the grounds they are supporting radical islamism

If they do, they should be banned.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

The one detail in that news story which alarmed me was the fact that the Algerian women said that they were in the park with 7 relatives of theirs. Why did they have 7 people among them to a household, 4 of which were children? If they're reproducing faster than the typical French family, I find this to be unacceptable. I'd like some form of state invention in order to ensure France stays majority French, much like how China finds at least some ways of protecting their Han Chinese majority.

A good reason for immigration is population decline in Western countries. Without immigration the US would go into population decline 10 to 15 years from now, accentuating a "too many old people" problem it has already.

You should most welcome children immigrating now: children adopt the ways of their new country far more easily than adults do. And even more you should welcome the legal immigrants in the US now (or anyone for that matter) having kids. Being citizens from birth, you should just trust immigrant families to do what is best for their own children, which is not burden them with bigoted customs that will make it hard for them to get along later in life.

My take is that you don't feel that welcome in your own country, and you blame illegal immigrants you hardly ever meet for how citizen immigrants react badly to you. What can I say? There's no country I know of which will make you welcome for being openly racist to their citizens.

2nd Figure: Nearly half the immigrants in the US are citizens

Bottom line: even if you insist that more immigration is bad, you should still support the immigrant citizens having more children. Because regardless of race, they are American children and you're going to need those for your own Social Security!

He thinks they can't assimilate because they're not white and somehow biologically are unable to integrate.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

A good reason for immigration is population decline in Western countries. Without immigration the US would go into population decline 10 to 15 years from now, accentuating a "too many old people" problem it has already.

You should most welcome children immigrating now: children adopt the ways of their new country far more easily than adults do. And even more you should welcome the legal immigrants in the US now (or anyone for that matter) having kids. Being citizens from birth, you should just trust immigrant families to do what is best for their own children, which is not burden them with bigoted customs that will make it hard for them to get along later in life.

My take is that you don't feel that welcome in your own country, and you blame illegal immigrants you hardly ever meet for how citizen immigrants react badly to you. What can I say? There's no country I know of which will make you welcome for being openly racist to their citizens.

2nd Figure: Nearly half the immigrants in the US are citizens

Bottom line: even if you insist that more immigration is bad, you should still support the immigrant citizens having more children. Because regardless of race, they are American children and you're going to need those for your own Social Security!

He thinks they can't assimilate because they're not white and somehow biologically are unable to integrate.

Or he's missing that "they can't assimilate with me" doesn't necessarily mean "they can't assimilate at all".

Only being able to relate to people who look a lot like oneself is a good instinct in childhood. It's so you can tell creepy relatives apart from creepy strangers. "Everyone's creepy until you get to know them" is a very sound principle ... in a child.

In an adult though, distrusting people just because they look different is an impediment in any community that's even a bit multi-racial. Socially, being a racist in a diverse country is like not ever having a boyfriend because none of them looks like your brother. Yeah. Racism is incest! I enjoyed writing that ...

[The Alma Mater]

And I won’t blame the French for taking very aggressive actions considering a teacher was fucking beheaded

He’s already issuing orders to ban 50 Muslim organizations on the grounds they are supporting radical islamism

In less extreme measures: a significant amount of teachers has declared that they will also start to have classes in which the cartoons are shown to have a debate on them, the Hebdo attacks and the beheading. Many also state they will NOT give the option to not look at the cartoons, contrary to the beheaded teacher.

And France is not alone in this. In the Netherlands for instance several teachers have also expressed the intent to devote a class to this subject.

[Saiwania]

In an adult though, distrusting people just because they look different is an impediment in any community that's even a bit multi-racial. Socially, being a racist in a diverse country is like not ever having a boyfriend because none of them looks like your brother. Yeah. Racism is incest! I enjoyed writing that ...

Or perhaps I'm not interested in maintaining or continuing France as a multicultural society. Ideologically, I'd want to convert France into an French ethno-state. Just as I want Germany to be a German ethno-state, and for Poland to remain Polish and so on. Monoculture is where its at from my perspective. The White race collectively speaking, is too large for incest to be any major problem. If anything, it'd be protecting the skin color from changing due to outside immigration if I had my way for my vision for Europe.

I view it as having been a mistake for France to have let in any peoples from the Maghreb in decades past, although to be fair- I can't exactly blame the incident with the beheaded teacher on them because the person who did it was a Chechen. France as how it is in the present, still doesn't conform with the direction I'd want to go politically, were I to have any sway within French politics. A true nation defends what is theirs. That includes not needing to rely on immigration to keep prospering.

[Kowani]

In an adult though, distrusting people just because they look different is an impediment in any community that's even a bit multi-racial. Socially, being a racist in a diverse country is like not ever having a boyfriend because none of them looks like your brother. Yeah. Racism is incest! I enjoyed writing that ...

Or perhaps I'm not interested in maintaining or continuing France as a multicultural society. Ideologically, I'd want to convert France into an French ethno-state. Just as I want Germany to be a German ethno-state, and for Poland to remain Polish and so on. Monoculture is where its at from my perspective. The White race collectively speaking, is too large for incest to be any major problem. If anything, it'd be protecting the skin color from changing due to outside immigration if I had my way for my vision for Europe.

I view it as having been a mistake for France to have let in any peoples from the Maghreb in decades past, although to be fair- I can't exactly blame the incident with the beheaded teacher on them because the person who did it was a Chechen. France as how it is in the present, still doesn't conform with the direction I'd want to go politically, were I to have any sway within French politics. A true nation defends what is theirs.

What is "French?" What is "German?" What is "Polish?"
None of these qualifiers mean anything except in the sense of what they are not, and when you build your entire society on what you are not, you find there is nothing that you are.

[The Alma Mater]

Or perhaps I'm not interested in maintaining or continuing France as a multicultural society. Ideologically, I'd want to convert France into an French ethno-state. Just as I want Germany to be a German ethno-state, and for Poland to remain Polish and so on. Monoculture is where its at from my perspective. The White race collectively speaking, is too large for incest to be any major problem. If anything, it'd be protecting the skin color from changing due to outside immigration if I had my way for my vision for Europe.

I view it as having been a mistake for France to have let in any peoples from the Maghreb in decades past, although to be fair- I can't exactly blame the incident with the beheaded teacher on them because the person who did it was a Chechen. France as how it is in the present, still doesn't conform with the direction I'd want to go politically, were I to have any sway within French politics. A true nation defends what is theirs.

What is "French?" What is "German?" What is "Polish?"
None of these qualifiers mean anything except in the sense of what they are not, and when you build your entire society on what you are not, you find there is nothing that you are.

Apparantly, France wants to be a country where you can publish insulting cartoons without getting shot, be able to discuss said cartoons without getting beheaded and be able to be on the beach topless without getting raped.

It is a starting point.

[Albrenia]

Ethnostates are an inherently bad idea, due to the fact it requires the forceful removal or exclusion of people based on trivial characteristics. However, the French do need to find a way to mend the divide between the 'two societies' without giving in to the demands of extremists. Work needs to be done on both sides for it to have a chance of success.

[Benuty]

Ethnostates are an inherently bad idea, due to the fact it requires the forceful removal or exclusion of people based on trivial characteristics. However, the French do need to find a way to mend the divide between the 'two societies' without giving in to the demands of extremists. Work needs to be done on both sides for it to have a chance of success.

If one side already wants a fundamental change in societal structure from the get-go rather than as a reaction to it, then working on it is already too late. Case in point one side might call you a whore if you dress like one, but the other side will do more than that if they see you in an area they make up a majority in. Reminds me of the time that reporter got politely told to go away so the men of the area wouldn't harass her for wearing western clothes, and this was in France.

Note of Cautious Editing: A good start if any would probably be to see if mosques with radical imams have checking accounts linked to Saudi Arabia. The Saudi's, and radical Sunni Islam have a special interest style relationship ever since the attack on the Grand Mosque in the '70s.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

In an adult though, distrusting people just because they look different is an impediment in any community that's even a bit multi-racial. Socially, being a racist in a diverse country is like not ever having a boyfriend because none of them looks like your brother. Yeah. Racism is incest! I enjoyed writing that ...

Or perhaps I'm not interested in maintaining or continuing France as a multicultural society. Ideologically, I'd want to convert France into an French ethno-state. Just as I want Germany to be a German ethno-state, and for Poland to remain Polish and so on. Monoculture is where its at from my perspective. The White race collectively speaking, is too large for incest to be any major problem. If anything, it'd be protecting the skin color from changing due to outside immigration if I had my way for my vision for Europe.

I'm not impressed. You struggle to make a link between culture and skin color, yet your 'culturism' towards on merges into your racism towards the other.

Preference towards family (those that look like you) over all others, is quite rational in children, though easily overcome between children who are peacefully brought together by the parents of each of them. It does however cease to serve a purpose as the child becomes capable of distinguishing other people from each other, avoiding those who pose a risk and making friends at school. In fact, at school is where we should (and do) try to break this habit: as it's utility in binding a child to their family decreases, and before it can grow into actual racism. It can go the other way, and when I was in school it did: white kids still insecure away from their families would isolate and look down on (and if not prevented by teachers) bully and demean any kids who looked different. It made us feel better, though of course the poor Greek kids or the lone Vietnamese, as insecure or more so away from their families, it felt absolutely terrible.

If being a White nationalist is making you feel better about yourself, you need to think hard about your life and what's wrong with it, and look at the crew of losers and criminals that ideology is drawing you towards, see that they might have the same problems, and walk away.

If that's not personal enough. I had a golden opportunity to become a father when I was about 30. I was happy all the time when I was with my woman, we had a place to stay tho' not a lot of work, and she was really pretty serious about wanting to get pregnant. I said no. I hardly even thought it over, it was "way too soon, probably never" because I knew that even one kid would mean a lot of work for me. Well that relationship ended not long after, pretty much entirely because I said No. And I regretted it right away? Absolutely not. "I dodged a bullet" I thought. I was even happy for a while just to be single again. It was ten years before something started to nag at me, and I started to feel jealousy when I would see a parent (particularly a father) out and about with a kid or two.

It was ten years after that, about the age of 50, that my discontent with the same old single life over and over, broke through. And ever since (i'm 56) I feel mental pain when I think of (what was) my woman, the place we lived, and what could have been my child. Of course I still don't know if I would have coped well with fatherhood, or would have had to be homeless-with-kids, or might have had a relationship-ending argument with my woman over having a third child ... though she moved to Canada, met a nice guy and had just one kid, within a couple of years of our breaking up. So at least among my worries I don't have that I wrecked her life by refusing to have kids. But I do regret that it was my one and only chance to become a father, and for reasons I wouldn't tell her, I chose not to.

I can't help you with preserving the white race. It's too late for me, even if I did meet a suitable woman and we adopted, because I still doubt that I have the energy or commitment for it. Also I might die, for reasons I'd rather not go into. I like dark hair and eyes more than any other features of a woman, so I probably wouldn't be batting for the White team anyway.

Rather than pursuing political solutions to other-colored people having kids, maybe consider that what you're feeling is the beginnings of jealousy. Brother, maybe your clock is ticking!

I view it as having been a mistake for France to have let in any peoples from the Maghreb in decades past, although to be fair- I can't exactly blame the incident with the beheaded teacher on them because the person who did it was a Chechen. France as how it is in the present, still doesn't conform with the direction I'd want to go politically, were I to have any sway within French politics. A true nation defends what is theirs. That includes not needing to rely on immigration to keep prospering.

"Neither a borrower nor a lender be" ... a "true nation" should not have to suffer the burden of immigrants. But at the same time, a "true nation" should not accept any benefit from immigrants. Close the borders both ways! A "true nation" like the DPRK does not let human capital leak out to enrich other "untrue nations". Yes I am mocking you.

The idea that your nation (or empire, or race) is so pure and perfect that outside influences will ruin it, that changing it in any way from what you knew earlier in life will necessarily be to make it less perfect ... this sir, is decadence.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Two people were almost murdered and this is how you respond?

For now, I have more reason to believe that this was spontaneous violence which was triggered by the dogs being complained about by people they didn't approve of. If they didn't approach, I expect that nothing would've happened although they might've been subject to angry/mistrustful glares from afar. I'll wait and see how this further develops. However, it should be noted that the Algerian community in France like the Tunisian one, has a track record for some of their own causing many problems for the French nation dating back to 2016 and before. Such as the truck being used to run people over in Nice. I don't like the situation being allowed to happen.

Stop victim-blaming and changing the subject and just condemn the attack already. No, I don't like dogs or animals either, so I can relate to Muslims in this sense. Yes. How fucking dare they complain about some filthy, slobbering, disease-spreading mutts that the selfish owners refuse to take responsibility for? How dare they? Good for them for taking a stand.

I wouldn’t be so sure now. There’s a lot of hate for what’s going on right now in France so Macron has the ability to do whatever he wants because of this

And I won’t blame the French for taking very aggressive actions considering a teacher was fucking beheaded

As long as such actions don't involve stabbings and other terroristic violence against Muslims, I'm totally fine with aggressive measures being taken by the government to root out Islamism in its entirety even if it means shuttering mosques and other Islamic institutions suspected of being hotbeds of radical Islamic extremism, banning them from receiving foreign funding, demolishing the homes of terrorists, burying the remains of deceased terrorists wrong and refusing to hand them over to their next of kin, and if they are found to be complicit, deporting family members of these terrorists for life. Enforcing a strict quota on all Muslim immigration, requiring handshakes as a prerequisite for citizenship, and withdrawing from the EU with its porous borders and its anti-free speech, "human rights" regulations would be another step in the right direction.

And I won’t blame the French for taking very aggressive actions considering a teacher was fucking beheaded

He’s already issuing orders to ban 50 Muslim organizations on the grounds they are supporting radical islamism

Good.

[Purpelia]

Honestly I think that one thing every civilized nation should do is permanently ban foreign citizens and organizations from sponsoring any religious organizations, NGO's and the like in their country.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Honestly I think that one thing every civilized nation should do is permanently ban foreign citizens and organizations from sponsoring any religious organizations, NGO's and the like in their country.

OK. I had to think for a minute, due to religious hospitals and schools, also money flowing into desperately impoverished countries possibly outweighing the harm the religious freight does.

Reading "civilized" as "developed" though, I agree.

[Purpelia]

Honestly I think that one thing every civilized nation should do is permanently ban foreign citizens and organizations from sponsoring any religious organizations, NGO's and the like in their country.

OK. I had to think for a minute, due to religious hospitals and schools, also money flowing into desperately impoverished countries possibly outweighing the harm the religious freight does.

Reading "civilized" as "developed" though, I agree.

Pretty much. Allowing foreigners to invest into your country culturally and politically is a deal with the devil. And he always takes more than he gives. Some times, such as when you are deeply poor or underdeveloped it's a deal you can't afford to turn down. In those cases you take what you can and suffer what you must hoping for the day when you can be strong enough to no longer need to do so. But countries like France aren't either.

[Diahon]

Honestly I think that one thing every civilized nation should do is permanently ban foreign citizens and organizations from sponsoring any religious organizations, NGO's and the like in their country.

a parochial approach to strengthening authoritarianism at home, certain to preempt international condemnation

very not subtle

[TRIEADMORE]

Teachers suck. Let kids learn without the fear of death from COVID-19.Teachers hate homeschooling and learning from home because they fear the loss of their precious careers.
Never EVER defend the teachers or give the schools money.That would be immoral.

Good God.French people killing over a picture of Mohammed. Hebdo should stop his hatred of Mohammed to stop the violence that will be directed towards him.But he’s French,so probably doesn’t make great life choices.No violence or insulting other religions please. Allow religious freedom free from insult and persecution.

[Insaanistan]

Teachers suck. Let kids learn without the fear of death from COVID-19.Teachers hate homeschooling and learning from home because they fear the loss of their precious careers.
Never EVER defend the teachers or give the schools money.That would be immoral.

Good God.French people killing over a picture of Mohammed. Hebdo should stop his hatred of Mohammed to stop the violence that will be directed towards him.But he’s French,so probably doesn’t make great life choices.No violence or insulting other religions please. Allow religious freedom free from insult and persecution.

I wish it were that simple, but we must defend people’s rights to free speech, too.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

A tragic example of why political Islam shouldn't be. I think there should be a secular line of defense against such behavior in the world.